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Does my expartner have a right to our unborn child?

125 replies

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 21:30

I moved out of my ex partners house when his parents physically assulted me. Since then ive been homeless with our toddler and now found out im pregnant. We've tried to make it work but he keeps defending his parents and think they have done no wrong.

I've told him to leave me alone, I want to continue this pregnancy in peace. Does he have a right to me or the child as of now? When the child is born will he have a right? How do i navigate this.

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AzureAnt · 09/07/2024 22:07

If you haven't already, please report your inlaws assault upon you, then at least there is a record of abuse

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 09/07/2024 22:08

Well if he's not paying anything toward your child you should put in a claim to CMS.

You're going to have contact with him because of your toddler so having an abortion isn't going to remove him from your life.

AdmittowearingCrocs · 09/07/2024 22:09

OP, sounds like you have had a tough time and experienced domestic abuse. Please contact Womens Aid to get some help and support.

kiwiane · 09/07/2024 22:14

i would put yourself and your toddler first and terminate this pregnancy at an early stage.
I do think it’s relevant that there has been violence and it may be that his contact is through a contact centre.
You’re going to need to be strong over the next few weeks to sort out your housing and finances - I do hope it all works out for you. I’m pleased you’ve left him.
Seek advice where you can - from BPAS - Womens Aid - Gingerbread.

CJsGoldfish · 09/07/2024 22:24

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 22:02

Okay thanks everyone, i've got all the answers to what I need to know.

I will be getting in contact with an abortion clinic first thing. I'll be damned if I have another child with a man who hits me and his parents that attack me.

It's a good decision. Especially for your toddler who will be needing you to work towards providing some stability and security.
That needs to be your focus. Good luck

TheShellBeach · 09/07/2024 22:26

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 21:45

@BigTroubleinSmallBoots we arent married. So if i dont put him on the birth certificate does that affect his rights?

No, his baby still has the right to a relationship with its dad.

Despair1 · 09/07/2024 22:26

Hi OP, I really hope you are getting some emotional support from somewhere, you are going through such a lot. Please take care of yourself and your toddler

HcbSS · 09/07/2024 22:27

Your priority is your existing child.

Yes your ex may get rights to see her. Let a court sort that.

Sammie1990 · 09/07/2024 22:27

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 09/07/2024 22:03

It's pretty basic. As the father he can go to court to gain PR as a given and then have all the same rights access as OP.
He will then be able to obtain a CAO and set out his time with the infant.
He will have a say in medical, education and other such matters.

Okay…it’s ‘basic’ for you to understand but OP needs some advice from professionals not from random people on mumsnet is my point.

TheShellBeach · 09/07/2024 22:29

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Runnerinthenight · 09/07/2024 22:32

kiwiane · 09/07/2024 22:14

i would put yourself and your toddler first and terminate this pregnancy at an early stage.
I do think it’s relevant that there has been violence and it may be that his contact is through a contact centre.
You’re going to need to be strong over the next few weeks to sort out your housing and finances - I do hope it all works out for you. I’m pleased you’ve left him.
Seek advice where you can - from BPAS - Womens Aid - Gingerbread.

This.

Please get proper support and advice @Mistydaym and don't make the decision to terminate based on what random people on the internet are saying to you.

It doesn't sound like you want this baby and it would be one more tie to your horrible ex, but you're not going to get rid of him anyway because you have an existing child with him.

Do you have family/friends to turn to, and a roof over your head?

If the prick isn't paying anything now towards your joint child, maybe he won't maintain much of an interest in the future.

Sending you good wishes. I hope life will be kinder to you soon.

Runnerinthenight · 09/07/2024 22:32

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Why do you think?

Sammie1990 · 09/07/2024 22:33

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Helpful response…it would appear that horse has bolted so to speak 🙄

Greatmate · 09/07/2024 22:36

@Mistydaym I'm so sorry you are in this position and are having to make such a difficult decision. When you contact the abortion clinic they should both pre and post abortion counselling. It might be worth talking things through with someone.

Theunamedcat · 09/07/2024 22:41

Get advice professional advice if he has abused you and social services are involved they might help you flee

Biggleslefae · 09/07/2024 22:42

I'm so sorry to hear about your very difficult situation OP.
I hope you can get far away from this horrible man and his awful parents.

Otherstories2002 · 09/07/2024 22:42

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 21:55

I don't understand. So this man and his family can make life a living hell for me and our child. My toddler wittnessed his parents attacking me and its upset them. He hasn't helped a penny since i've moved out and doesnt have dc ft since he works. And then ontop of all of this he can have claim to both kids. Insane

Put in. A child support claim. Solves one problem.

legally he can fight for his rights. Obviously.

BettySweaty · 09/07/2024 22:44

You can have a free half hour with a solicitor. Look for one that specialised in family law.

Choochoo21 · 09/07/2024 22:45

I think an abortion sounds like the best option and I don’t say that lightly.

He has no say over what happens whilst you’re pregnant but he does have rights once the baby is born and he seems like the type of person who would fight for those rights, just to get at you.

Speak to the abortion clinic tomorrow and they will give you your options.
Then you can make an informed decision.

Once that has been sorted then report your ex and ILs to the police.
Make sure you screenshot messages or take photos of any injuries etc for proof.

If you already share a child, then reporting to the police every time will work in your favour, if you want to put restrictions in place with him seeing the eldest.

fedupwithbeingcold · 09/07/2024 22:52

It does sound like in your particular case, having an abortion is the best option. Sorry you are going through this

Hellotoyousir · 09/07/2024 22:58

I know plenty of women who don’t have contact with the father. Tbh it sounds like after the furore if you being pregnant settles down he will leave you to it. Don’t let how you think he might react influence what you want to do

Wumblewimble · 09/07/2024 23:02

Good luck, a termination is sometimes your best option.

IReallyStillCantBeBothered · 09/07/2024 23:05

BigTroubleinSmallBoots · 09/07/2024 21:44

If you are not married he will only have parental responsibility (PR) if you name him on the birth certificate. If you are married he will automatically have PR.
PR confers legal rights over the child concerning health, education and travel for instance and also will effect how much you will have to let him have contact with your baby. You can claim child maintenance with or without him having PR.

It will be up to you to weigh all that up, but maybe some legal advice from women’s aid will help you decide what’s best for you and your family. Hope you are safe now.

He can easily challenge this in court snd be granted parental responsibility and besides she already has a child with him. So he will have parental involvement with the older child and ignore the younger child?

krustykittens · 09/07/2024 23:05

You are in such a shit situation, OP, and there are no easy answers. I think an abortion is the right decision, your toddler needs all you can give right now. I hope you are able to get some support in real life. X

CedarFence · 09/07/2024 23:09

OP, I am so sorry you are in this position.

It sucks.

You can register a baby and not put him on the birth certificate, and then he would have to go to court to get Parental Responsibility...which would the potentially him having the right to access, take the baby to his parents, etc. Though depending on the SS reports etc, there mighty be restrictions. But essentially - yes one way or another he would be in your baby's life. And , in cases like him, yes, it seems insane to me, too.

OP, hard as it may be, in your shoes, personally my choice would be to end the pregnancy and concentrate on caring for your toddler.

Talk to Women's Aid or any Domestic Violence / Abuse / Women's support agencies and charities you can find. It might be that because your toddler witnessed the violence you will have a better chance against restrictions over access to your toddler than you would over a new baby.

And worrying about the huge financial and practical impact of having a baby and toddler, on your own, would be more than I would choose. Supporting one child with a violent feckless father and violent parents is bad enough - you presumably didn't know that that is what you would have to deal with when you had your first child. But bringing another child into that, supporting a second child in the middle of all that - no.

And as you say, it will only give him more links to you. For years to come.