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mrs- i have just read a tiny bit about the borth of xavier on another thread - you got to hospital as his head was crowning welldone you for managing only on tens! sounds like an amazing birth. x

Hi Iamamummy! On each of the legs of the jumperoo there is a silver button about 3/4 of the way down. Push that in and lift legs off, then do the same to the round base. So basically you are left with the seat bit and 3 legs dangling down and another 2 (or maybe 3) bits from the base. Its a bit awkward to carry .

Hi firsty!!! What are you doing on Friday? I forget how late Ty was... I always thought your due date was near mine, but our LO's birthdays are quite far apart because Theo the tinker was 9 days early

My friend who is having her first is now 10 days late today... She's beyond impatient now

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Wow, so much to catch up on!

Iam - Yeh the hospital experience wasnt good - still in negotiations with them but i dont think for 1 moment i will get anywhere. Need to phone them today actually. Hmn, the baby shower is a sore subject, i'd really like to do something, even if its small but dp doesnt seem fussed - i'll have to work my magic on him! How is your dp's sis doing now......any news? Good on you for oscars swimming lessons, i'm lucky in the fact that both my mum and dad were professional divers so they'll have the task of teaching my little on to swin (cheaper!) Awwww bless Oscar saying 'da da'.

Seaside - Sorry to hear you had a bad 20 week scan. Im kicking up a stink because i dont think its fair for women to have to live with the memory that it wasnt the joyous occasion they had imagined. We're looking into a 4D scan, got one provisionally booked end of Aug when i'll be 26.5 weeks. Just a case of trying to raise the money! Good on you for starting some work, hows it going? As for the excema, my mum swore of sudocrem for ours - she whacked that on and it always did the trick.

Chooster - lucky you all that hol!!!!

Firststar - Thanks for saying my name of cub counts You have some very nice hol time! Wish i had that much! Sorry to hear your body clock was up the shoot, mine used to do that v easily if i got stressed. Good luck for the party on Sat!!!!

Mrs Mc - Dont worry about what your mum is saying about your weight, you dont have to prove anything to her. Mums tend to do that with weight - if i say "oh we're getting a takeaway" i get the look and the disappointment (even if i havent had one for 3 mths!)Its like "lay off!" When we were TTC before, baby was always "wonder if there is a beanie in there".......however its officially cub! Wow, lucky u with all the sangria drools wow, i love that stuff! The fresh fruit in it........ahhhhhh.

Scorpio - good luck with TTC @ xmas! Hope you have a nice hol too.

Greedy - Glad to hear the kids are getting better.

Bodkin - The beach is great with kids! My gran used to have a caravan down by the beach in Devon and my sis, me and my mum wld go down there for the whole summer hols and it was fantastic! The sand in the crack was the downside tho, lol

Fettle - How is Tobys teething? Glad you got more holiday than you were expecting - a happy surprise!

Honey - So glad your friends baby arrived safely. Heres to a healthy mum and baby in the future.

Pink - So sorry to hear about your mum, i hope you and the kids are doing ok. My thoughts are with you.

Right, best crack on.

PinkB - so sorry to hear about your mum - what a stressful and traumatic last year this must have been for you. Anyway, a very belated happy first birthday to Brooke and hope we see you on here sometime soon.

Firsty - well, that does seem odd that you're so late but having cramps..... keep us updated won't you Norman's bedtime antics made me chuckle!

Fettle - bloomin typical - just as I thought I had a couple of quiet weeks, it's all gone busy on me! One of the downsides of living by the sea! My mum's coming next week now, then DP's (other) sister and kids coming the week after, and the week after that I have a couple of day trips booked in already. This is my only free week, but prob a bit short notice to arrange anything. Other than that, the last week in August is (so far) free, if that's any good to you?
Hope you had a nice break - I know what you mean about the kids being used to loads of attention, then it's back to boring old mum and "ooh, come on then, let's go to the, er...supermarket"

Honey - Good to hear your friend's baby arrived safely, at a nice weight. Can't even begin to imagine how hard things are for her right now.

Iamamummy - ooh where did you find Mrs birth story.... that sounds interesting

Babylove - that made me smile to think of "the cub" being taught to swim by his/her scuba-diving grandparents!

Greedy - sorry to hear you're back to the superlong cycles - still, only really a problem if you're TTCing, otherwise, it's a blessing, isn't it?

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Bodkin - Wow you are busy (dont envy you!). Lol at the vision of cub swimming with his/her grandparents. I bought my mum one of the special water carriers that you put them in (like a baby sling thing) and then you can walk with them in the pool (means you can start early)......think shes quite excited. I'll go too obv but my mums so good at teaching kids and adults how to swim so i'll enjoy just bobbing in the pool watching, lol.

Firststar - Sorry that af came On the other hand, it gives you a clear head for the next month! My cycles wld go up the shoot if i thought about things too much or was stressed - maybe try some relaxtion techniques this month to see if that works? Hehe at your vision of cub swimming! The grandparents were diving champions (as in board diving not scuba diving) so my baby has a lot to learn!!!!!! lol. They tried to teach but but i can manage a bellyflop and thats about it - obv doesnt run in the genes!

Well finally i can explain about my 20 week scan in detail (if you wanna know)! My complaint with the hospital is done so i cant take it any higher. I had my 20 week scan and took my mum, dp and his mum. It was a wonderful scan, she was great - v informative and helpful. When we asked what the sex was she said she cldnt see but for me to go for a wee, move around and try again - no luck. when asked for pics, she said that she cld do them but they wldnt be wonderful because of the position so to come back in 2 weeks (they needed to check the heart in a bit more detail) and they'll take the time to do them then. I went away happy but a bit sad i didnt have my pics. I counted down the 2 weeks and at 22weeks, went for my 2nd scan. My sis had returned from NY to come and was v excited as she'd never been to a scan before. I had a diff woman. When we walked in, i explained about last time and said we'd like to know the sex and to have some nice pics pl. She just looked at me and told me to lay down, which i did. She found the heart, looked at it for 25 seconds and said she was done. I reminded her about the sex and she looked and said "nope, cant tell you, legs are closed". I asked to move around and she said "no". I asked if i cld come back and she said "no, we wont scan you again". I asked for my pics and got "oh yeh, your pics, ok......'click, click - there you go, that'll be £4". I was so in shock of her attitude i got up and walked out into reception. She told me to wait there for my report so i did. I looked at my pics and sobbed, they were so bad. She handed me my report and i was so upset i just walked out (now i wish i'd kicked up holy hell but i didnt). I walked into town with DP and my sis in silence just crying back to the train station. I felt completely dejected and cut off from my baby - angry almost. I got the train to work and just sat there and cried too. I'd imagined going up into town into mothercare and finally being able to buy something either for my boy and girl and i still couldnt. I apologised to my sis, i'd wasted her time. She did her best to make me feel better but nothing would work. When i got home, i looked at my pics in more detail. I have 4. 1 of the babies head and body (v blurry), 1 of just a foot, 1 of just an arm and 1 of nothing. I realised all 4 pics were taken in less than 58 seconds. She didnt care that they were for me to keep, she just wanted me out to get the next person in and hey ho, they're just pictures after all. To me, they were my connection and she'd destroyed it. I rang my midwife in tears and told her the story. She rang the hospital to say i was unhappy but came back to me saying there was nothing she cld do - she didnt seem to be worried. I decided i wasnt going to let it go so i rang the ultrasound dept at the hospital and spoke to the lady i'd had at 20 weeks. I explained everything and whilst she felt bad at my experience, she said she cldnt do anything and passed me onto the boss. I spoke to her and she was very cold and was all "well we stuck to the procedure, we only brought you back to check its heart, which we did. The fact you wanted pics is nothing to do with it". I couldnt believe how she was speaking to me and i got fairly shirty back. She said she'd do nothing about it so i took it one higher to patient liason. I explained to the lady there who was v sympathetic. She agreed that the treatment was un-fair and the attitude of everyone was un-neccessary and apologised on behalf of the hospital. She told me she'd go and speak to the manager (who i'd already spoken to) but said she didnt think i'd get anywhere with it tbh. I knew in my heart i prob wldnt but i felt it had to be raised. She came back to me yest and said that they'd heard my complaint but felt they were still right and wouldnt agree for a re-scan. Although i didnt get what i wanted out of it, i got something. I put the phone down after the lady said to me "you've made us aware of a potential problem, if other women tell us the same, then we can stop it in its track, thank you". It made me realise, if i could stop another woman feeling as shit as i did/do, then it was worthwhile.

My happy news however is that i have had a stroke of luck (v unusual for me!) My sis in law works for a private hospital in reading and after DP told her my experience, she felt so bad that she booked me in to have a scan done there FOC! This means i get the chance to have my pics re-done, i also get to record the scan on DVD and hopefully find out what this little bugger is!!!!! It is this sat. I feel so lucky, i seriously thought that was it but i have another chance.

So glad i cld finally get that off my chest! Better go do some work, lol.

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Thats such a shame babylove, especially after you had such a nice experience with the previous lady. I guess its like all jobs, you get some people who are friendly and approachable and some who are miserable and unhelpful. The only thing I think when I hear bad stories is that you never know if that lady had just been delivering some bad news to someone being scanned before you and was perhaps not as kind to you as she could have been because she was distracted. In some ways I think being a sonographer is the best job but also sometimes the worst job. Stroke of luck with the private scan - lets hope little one is more co-operative! .

I know what you mean fettle and not trying, but being secretly pleased if you had a happy accident that didn't need days / weeks of discussion before hand. Especially as you are pretty sure (?) that you are going to stop... Sorry AF came though... Had DH mentioned anything since?

Oops, meant about not trying fettle...

And didn't mean to brush aside your hospital experience babylove... Even if a sonographer is having a bad day, she should still remember how important and special the scan is to each person.

Blimey - you are distracted chooster - don't you mean firsty?!

Babylove - sorry to hear about your experience with the scan... I guess you have to look at it as a medical procedure though, to check the baby is healthy (and finding out the sex and getting some good pics is a bit of a bonus - if the baby co-operates!) But I do understand... when you put together your baby's first photo album, it's lovely to have the scan pic. Luckily it looks like you'll get to have it now, what a lovely thing for your SIL to arrange

Can I just say that Isla has had me in stitches just now... she has always faffed around a bit at bedtime, and doesn't go to sleep straight away... it is usually due to the fact she has a little tiny burp that is niggling her (I know, she's one for feck's sake!) Anyway, just now, after she had been in and out of the cot a couple of times, she finally produced the world's teeniest burp, so I said "Great, finally...now are you ready for bed?" to which she replied a long and perfectly intoned "ermmmmmmmm..." as if she was really having a good think about it, and then said "n'night"!!!! so I put her in the cot and she's gone straight to sleep. She certainly knows what she wants that one!

Aw, how cute Bodders!!!! She sounds adorable . Ted has been a real tinker tonight, he's been on brilliant form all day and just shouted SO loud when I tried to put him in bed - not sure if he was just having so much fun that he was pissed off at missing any more...

Oh God and of course I meant Firsty!!!! I made that mistake twice as well!!! Sorry firsty (and Fettle of course)...

So I'll try again, had DH said anything more FIRSTY!

Ok - so first people forget my little Toby existence and then they start telling me to risk getting pg again!!! I don't know - I've been gone a week!

Actually we've moved our laptop upstairs to stop us going on it so much in the evenings, which is going to mean that I dno't get on here are much as I used to and now the thread seems so much busier than it used to, which is nice, I'm never going to keep up!

Bodders - that's a shame we can't meet up - tomorrow is too soon and we've plans on Friday now. Then we're away for the last 2 weeks in August (if we actually manage to arrange it - we've been looking for a nice family friendly hotel with availability in the Lakes for ages now and still not booked anything!). Only want a couple of nights as we drive up home. But anyway, as long as you really are busy and you're not avoiding me, cos you think I'm strange or something! Getting paranoid like Greedy!!

Right really must go sleeping, but just wanted to say that I was going say exactly the same as Chooster, Babylove, it may be that she was having a bad day, but it doesn't really excuse her attitude - each patient should be treated with the same consideration I would say. Do hope that your next scan is more helpful. Have to say though that scan pictures aren't very clear at all (well mine never were!) and my favourite one was of a tiny little foot!

Oh poo - Toby is waking up, didn't give him any medicine tonight, but think his teeth are still hurting as he's not eating anything unless it's soft and he can put it in his mouth himself! Independence here we come!!!!

Take care all
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Fettle - it was me that suggested meeting up again in the first place! What are you like! Well, if you can't do last week in August, the only other day is the 18th, which although i'm quite busy that week, is definitely do-able... however, I suspect if you are away for the last 2 weeks of Aug, then that probably includes the 18th.... or at least you'll probably be packing frantically then!

Poor old Toby with his gnashers, sounds like the teething has hit him hard.

Chooster - did Theo settle for you in the end, or did he put up much of a fight?!

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Ah, thats brilliant Firsty! Good old Norm... he's obviously coming round and pretty soon you'll forget how bad you felt about it. Grrr, at DH - so how did he respond to your strop?

Bodders, No he didn't put up too much of a fight but boy, is he a loud baby! . He has this really loud shout cry thing going on, with no tears - DH said he went into full flow when being dropped off at nursery this morning and he could still hear him at the main door . Then apparently (DH has since phoned to check on him) he ate 2 full slices of toast and then was happily playing in the garden. Oooh, that boy will be trouble when he hits his terrible two's - But he slept through the night again . How is Isla at nursery now?

Any news from your friend Honeyapple?

Hi,

Thank you for your kind replies about my scan - i knew you'd understand! I think DP thinks im taking it a bit hard but he doesnt get where im coming from.

Firststar - Bless at norman, hehe, he sounds sweet

Chooster - I think you're right with ppl not enjoying their jobs - however they shldnt be doing them if they dont like it. Their job is too important to be slap happy with it. Dont worry, you didnt brush it off. The first woman i saw was nice but i think she was fresh out of med school. The other was old so i think she'd done it all and seen it all before iykwim.

Bodkin - Yeh im looking forward to my SIL doing the scan - in 48 hrs i might know what im having!!!! Hehe at Isla - what a cutie!

Fettle - Oooooh a holiday, you're so lucky! DP and i didnt get to go on ours in April thanks to my hyperemesis and he's saving the rest of his hols to bolt onto his pat leave so we're stuck here!!!! You've got a pic of a foot too? Lol at yours being tiny - i swear these are a size UK 5 already!!!!! DP's feet are size 13 so god help my child!

Ttyl

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Finally had a moment to catch up - toby is at nursery and i've exhausted DD with a shopping trip, girly coffee out and then very long swim, so she's fallen asleep!!!

Firsty - I was so sorry to hear you sounding so down, but glad you had such a lovely cuddle last night - I wish I hadn't been on holiday then, as I could have told you that I went through exactly the same thing with DD. I was ok, but Daddy couldn't do anything wrong - he got all the smiles, cuddles everything! i think Chooster got it right for us anyway, as I was working full-time, the only time I saw DD when I first went back, DH was there too! I think I was slightly depressed and therefore daddy was more fun than mummy. However, as Greedy also said whenever she was ill or hurt herself - suddenly it was me she wanted! I remember crying myself to sleep so many times because I thought she didn't love me. However, I've learnt (over 4 years!), that she does love me very much and was/is very secure in her love of me, so I don't think she felt she had to show me all the time as she knew I was always there. It was slightly different with us as being a military family, DH is away quite often, so when he was home he was very very special! I have to say now it's been a complete role reversal and both DC definitely prefer me, which is absolutely lovely for me (and exhausting!), but hard for DH! (DD still calls for Daddy at night, if she wakes up, which is good for me!!!). Anyway, I think what I am trying to say in my roundabout, long-winded way is.... he does love you very very much and it will get better! I think it is very common to have a closer bond with one parent over the other and I think it is very common for that bond to switch backwards and forwards between parents over time. don't think I've helped at all, have I? Anyway - hope you have a fantastic day with him tomorrow - I love taking Toby swimming and it is the best time ever - he loves it. Trying to decide whether to start him on swimming lessons in September - they have spaces at our local pool, but everything adds up now I'm not going back to work - one day at nursery, music class, my pilates I want to do while he is at nursery.... (must look into finding some work, I suppose!).

Greedy, greedy, greedy - poor poor poor Marcy (and Kiki and DS) - how horrible for her and for you to see you poor little middle baby in such a state! Glad to hear they are all recovering now - I am a bit worried that DD will get the pox again when Toby gets it like your DS as she had it really really mildly and I was warned she may get it again.

honey - so pleased to hear that your friend has had her baby - she was about 32 weeks wasn't she? Quite a good weight for that, isn't it? Still praying for her - do you know when she starts any treatment? How's the house all going? Completion date looming? Just read on, are you secretly wanting a fourth child???!

I'm pretty certain I don't want another child, but I was in tears yesterday morning, when I realised that Toby was 10.5 months and not a little baby anymore - I want my baby back!!! Can't understand where this year has gone!

Mrs - how you doing? so good to have you back! Good to hear that you are planning on trying for another - my AF returned quite early this time around, even though I was completely breast-feeding until quite recently - still doing one feed a day, the last one before bed, which should really be a bottle to help his sleep through the night, but it is our special time together and I just can't make the move to stop it - actually did bring a bottle up with me the other night and he took one look at it and cried and lept at my boobs, so I assume he quite likes it too!! He's quite happy with bottles at other times though!

babylove - my DH is 6ft4, my 2 brothers 6ft7, DD was accused of being a 6 year old today, as she's so tall, so I dread to think how tall Toby is going to be - saw two babies today that I assumed where a couple of months older than Toby to be told they were nearly 2!!! - they were girls I suppose, but I still think I've got a monster-child on my hands!

Chooster - so cute to hear Theo practising his walking.

Iamamummy - sorry to hear AF arrived - how long did it take you last time?

Finally got to the explanation of who Ted and Norman are!!! Was getting a tad confused!!! Toby was some reason was called Toby Tots when first born, shortened to Totty! DH and I have stopped, but DD still calls him Totty! She obviously doesn't know what it means, but I can still imagine her calling him it when he's a strapping 6ft4 teenager and getting walloped for it!!!

Seaside - hello!!! Glad to hear all is well with you - and congrats on the cottages - keep everything crossed for you! - I need a friend to give me some work a few hours a week, tis all I want, nothing more just to give me something for me and some money!! Excema - Toby had really bad patches on the side of his face - got worse when I went to stay with my Mum and realised she was using different washing powder and her softner wasn't the gentle kind, might have been a coincidence though. Went to GP and got some Fucidin ointment - cleared it up really quickly - came back again, used ointment for a few days again - cleared up and again and hasn't come back (yet - fingers crossed!). DP said it could be caused by anything so not to cut out dairy products.

Right - big waves to everyone I've missed - sorry - run out of time - have to get Toby now!!!!

big hugs
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just a quickie to say we are going on holiday to cornwall on sat so wont be about for a bit-

lots of love to you all...

too many posts to comment on everyone...

eczema- Dex had a bad flare up a while ago which needed anti-biotics- but at the moment it is ok. He has oilatum in his bath and then diprobase cream all over- on prescription- he has a v mild steriod cream which I use very occasionally on sore bits- usually arm and leg creases. I am not going to change his diet as the eczema is really not that bad- liveable with. DS1 had it worse as a small boy and so he had goat's milk instead of cow's.

Think I have headlice!! Found a few on DD's head the other day- never had them before- did the conditioner and nitcomb job- done this twice now- will have another go tonight. However I am now paranoid that I have them as feeling a bit itchy...

right gotta go DD is about to hack at a mango with a large knife...

EEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! honey's got nits!!!!! yuk!!!!!...........just thought i would try and make you feel better honey!!!

get some Hedrin, its good stuff! i got nits when ds got them! i had never seen them before he got them and it made me feel sick to see them wriggling about......and then even worse when i got them, so i know how you feel!

hello all!

as if there weren't enough names on here to try and remember anyway and now you are all calling your babies new names!!! how confusing!

weather has been fab all week here and we have had such a lot of fun (apart from marcy who has been a miserable arse all week for some reason, not sure whats wrong but she has done nothing but grumble and WAKE UP IN THE NIGHT!!!!!!) anyway..................i love the summer hols ..................so far!!! been to a splashpark today in maldon and it was great the kids love it!!! i dont know why every park doesnt have one!

sorryy youre not pg firsty.......and sorry dh was being so unsympathetic.........to be honest i was kind of secretly hoping i might be cos my cycles are normally long but not quite this long so i did have a feeling that i might be (although we have been super careful with contraception so i know its virtually impossible!)

i have so much more to say.............but i have realaly got to go..................one of these days i will catch up properly and actually do a decent post instead of just reading all of yours and then running out of time!!!

sorry to disappoint you Greedy- but just gone through my hair for the last hour with my superdooper nit comb and NO bugs... trying to avoid using any insecticides- what is Hedrin? Anyway I reckon the itching was psycho-symatic...

Hey ladies, read through quickly but am too sleepy to comment much now, I?ll be back though.

Bodders, hello!!

Hello Fettle sorry to have worried you on the MC thread, life has been hectic!

Sending you a huge hug Pinkbutterfly, I am so sorry to hear about your Mum x

We've disappeared! hope everyone is busy and happy?!
xxx

PinkB - so sorry I didn't mention you before - what a horrible year you've had. I hope things pick up for you soon - please come back and fill us in on all things Brooke! Take care