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babylove - congrats on being official! Just want to reiterate about the well done on breastfeeding, but also say that my ds1 also got wind with breastfeeding, it does happen. My ds1 had a slight tongue-tie, which made it difficult for him to latch on and I also had the head thrashing with him while trying to latch him on. But I promise it does get easier. The first 6 weeks are hard with breastfeeding (but then it is hard with bottle feeding too!!!), but after 6 weeks it is so much easier. Infacol if you need it, also try keeping her propped up after feeding. and tummy massage.

got to go....

hi ladies

rainbow - you say your son had a tongue tie, did you do anything about this in the end? oscar also has one and the health visitor picked up on it at his 9 month check. she is going to find out for me the best way to deal with it. i had one when i was younger and it naturally broke when i was about 2. my brother had one too and his broke when he was 3 but has ended up with a permanent lisp, just any advice/thoughts would be much appreciated

hi everyone else! only a quick catchup post again soon xx

just a quickie to say firstly - babylove dont stop the infacol, like mrs says its completely harmless its not a medicine like calpol so no reason why you cant keep giving it. my first lived off it for months too...........not sure if it actually helped cos he had reflux anyway in the end, but it made me feel like i was doing something for him.

secondly.......HOW much do i LOVE xfactor!!!??? i want them ALL to stay, cant believe anyone has to go tonight i know i will cry whoever it is (how sad am i hey??!!!)

gotta go, results show is on!!!

Hi Everyone,

thanks for the support and advice with the breastfeeding. Its nice to know that i'm not the only 1 with a windy baby! Tomorrow i think is our last midwife visit (thank goodness!) Shes getting on our nerves - she keeps telling me that she cant have wind (which she blatantly does!) and also says "oh she needs feeding obviously". I keep explaining to her that her sucking her hand is not her feeding signal - her hungry signal is that she sucks your neck! The hand sucking is just her comfort - shes a sucker! Whilst they're qualified etc, i'm getting fed up of her telling me im wrong! I might be new to this but im with her 24 hrs a day - i have common sense! Grrrr!

Well DP and i went out today for the first time without her. We went out for a couple of hrs for lunch. Not for the social side but for us to try and be without her. We've got to go to DP's xmas party next fri and whilst we're only staying for the meal, not the disco, we're nervous about leaving her. I fed her till she was dozy, then put her in her carseat. Grandma took her for a long walk up to the town (always makes her sleep) and we left. We came back 2 hrs later and she was still asleep so that was well planned! I did have some tears as they walked 1 way and we drove the other but i gritted my teeth and got through it. However tonight shes wailing away and wont chill out - shes so tired but is fighting it.

Greedy - i've made sure i havent watched xfactor so i dont get attached! However we were addicted to i'm a celeb and are lonely now its gone.....!

Best go, think DP needs a break from the screaming baby!

hiya

babylove- grrr midwifes can be such a pain! of course BF babies get wind- what is she on about??? I have always winded my babies- massive huge burpers all of them! And i know lots of babies that have had infacol before every feed (BF ones too). The first few weeks are pretty tricky to put it lightly- i think by 6wks you will see a real improvement with everything (sounds a long way off i am sure at the momemt!). BF was sore for me with my DS1 but after a few weeks it became so easy and not painful at all- much easier IMO than bottle feeding (no bottles to wash/sterilise/kettles to boil etc etc...)

well it was DDs bday today- she was 6- crikey. Lovely weekend- had a sleepover with 4 of her friends last night- and a busy day with cousins today- i'm knackered!

going to have a bath and read my book in bed
lots of love
Hx

Congratulations Babylove - sorry I'm so late to catch up on your fantastic news. Well done on getting through what sounds like a long, drawn-out and frustrating labour without any pain relief... you are a hero!

Agree with what everyone has said, of course BF babies get wind, and need burping. Also, they can suffer from trapped wind which makes them really grizzly - you can help get it out by lying her on her back on your lap and gently "bicycling" her legs... it is very satisfying when they produce a large fart! I used to spend most of my evenings the first 12 weeks of both of mine's lives by sitting in front of the telly alternating between feeding, bicycling and pacing around patting! After about 12 weeks they both were miraculously cured!

One other great tip I learned from Mumsnet is that sometimes your milk can come out really fast when the "let-down" first kicks in and it can be hard for the babies to drink as quickly as it comes out, which may be why she is fussing. I used to put Isla on for a bit until the milk started flowing, then gently pop her off and hold a muslin over my boob until the milk flow slowed down, then put her back on again. Really helped her and stopped her gettting so fussy. She did used to be a bit peeved about being prised off, but I just let her suck on my finger until I put her back on.

Sorry, i'm writing an essay to you here, and sure you haven't got time to read it all!

Hi everyone else - happy birthday to your DD Honey! Sounds like the sleepover was fun!

Greedy - love your claim to fames! And have added my twopennorth to your bum-wiping thread... Iamamummy, glad to hear I am not the only one who does it like that

Nelly is doing her nativity play tomorrow... am sure I'll be a snottery mess of tears - I'm hopeless with that sort of thing! She's an angel, which she is delighted about!

Getting very excited about Christmas !

Right, I have just looked round, and while I've been on here, Isla has got out every single toy we own and the living room looks like a bomb,s hit it. better go...

Hi All

Babylove - have to reiterate what everyone has said - BF babies do get wind! Bodders made the same suggestion I was going to with the bicycling legs. My mum also seemed to succeed settling my two, by lying them on their tummies across her lap while gently rubbing their backs in a circular motion - just eases the pain at bit for them. If you're like me, you'll try anything to stop them crying.

Glad to hear that you've already realised that you're the expert on your child, not the paid so-called experts! I think you can listen to advice people give you and take on board the bits you like and ignore the rest! You as her mother know what's going to work and what's best for you both, so you stick at it! Breast-feeding is hard and anyone who makes out it isn't is lying! Have you got some lanolin for your nips? Toby made me so sore I was in tears each time before he latched on. I very nearly gave up at around 2 weeks as I couldn't handle anymore pain, but just 2 days of lanolin cream and it improved so much I did start to love breast-feeding him. Also agree with Bodders about the fast let-down - I had that problem with Toby and used to flood him at first, so much it used to come out of his nose at times!. But I think that's part of the reason he used to fuss so much at the start of feeds - once he was on and in control it was fine, but getting him on was a nightmare in the beginning. You keep at it and believe it or not the magic 6 week mark is worth the wait - it will be easier by then.

Right - written a longer essay than Bodders!!

Great to hear from you Bods - when shall we plan to meet up again? Lovely Nelly Angel!

Greedy - not into X-factor- strictly fans over here. DD and I stay up together watching it, but she invariably falls asleep pretty quickly during it!!

Mrs - sorry to hear you are suffering - hopefully it will all settle down soon once you're in the 2nd trimester. Suppose you're following the completely different pregnancies for different sex rule perfectly!

Must go hang the washing up before music class- Toby is asleep. He's been really poorly last week, which culminated in a night in hospital on Saturday night as he stopped weight-bearing on one of his legs and his knee was red and swollen. Luckily the doctors decided to watch him overnight rather than drain it by operation and start him on iv antibiotics, as it seems to be clearing itself as he was walking again yesterday morning (although he still drags it when crawling). Hopefully it was just a post-viral infection and not bacterial as it is getting better, but we need to keep an eye on him. He's much happier today, but still a bit subdued and cuddly - I want my really happy, smiley boy back! Although he loves his new garage he got from Grandma for Christmas (we had Christmas early with them this weekend as we're not spending real Christmas with them). WAs a strange weekend though as we arrived late on Friday eve, went to A&E firstthing Sat am and Toby and I didn't come home until just before lunch on Sunday and then we left to drive home again! DD had a great weekend with Grandma though, so at least someone was happy!

take care all
xxx

iamamummy - about the tongue-tie, there is so much conflicting advice. I was told that it should be left to stretch out naturally, which it does with time. That they would only do anything about it if it interferred with feeding, or later if talking affected. But my cousin had a baby girl with tongue-tie and within days of the birth the doctors had snipped it! I wonder if your brothers lisp was just co-insidental or directly linked with the tongue=tie as it persisted after the tongue-tie broke? just a random thought there.

honey - congrats on your dd's 6th birthday.

Hi all,

Today has been 1000% better! I've spoken to a few ppl tonight and i think we've had quite a rough ride for the last 9 days! After explaining to everyone that she has been sleeping a max of acumulative 8 hrs a day....the other 16 spent screaming.....i think we actually have a "normal newborn" today....shes slept after each feed and has only been awake for like 4 hours today. I spoke to my mum about it and she said that newborns are meant to sleep that much!!! Hey, if this continues, this baby lark will seem like a doddle compared to what we've had! We'll see!

Midwife came again today to weigh her.....she stayed the same. She looked at me and asked if shes feeding alright.....grr.....she also said "oh looks like shes hungry now", i said "considering i fed her for 30 mins before you came and had just got her to sleep when you arrived, she isnt hungry, shes comforting herself with her thumb". ARGH! Anyway, she wont be visiting again till fri to weigh her again. I spoke to my mum and asked if i was doing something wrong and she comforted me by saying shes so awake and thrashing around crying for so long during the day that shes probably been burning all of her calories off. Makes sense i spose, what do you think.....?

Honey - thanks for the message This one doesnt burp much but she trumps for england, its so funny! Happy bday for DD!

Hi Bodkin - thanks! Yeh cant say i enjoyed labour! I enjoyed pushing but not labour!!!! I havent heard of the bicycling before but will certainly try it - sounds like a good method! Thanks for the tip on the milk too - shes developed a squeak when she feeds today! When the milk starts flowing, i think you may be right that she cant drink it fast enough as she seems to be gulping a lot louder than she used to..... Have fun at the nativity tomorrow!

Hi fettle - thanks for the tip on the de-winding of her too, shall try anything when shes curled up in pain to help her! Hehe, my dad said the same to me "listen to everyone, take advice on board and deal with it accordingly.....not everyone is right" Bless him! I seem to be getting away with the sore nipples at the moment, granted the first 15 seconds is like someone jabbing needles in me but i think thats just her grabbing on - she takes no prisoners this one! Plus I can feel her teeth through her gums already, think shes gonna be early.... Awww im sorry to hear about toby but im glad to hear he is on the mend. Poor little mite!

Best go, DD has woken up and is a bit of a grizzly bear!

Talk to you soon

sounds like things have improved massively today babylove, which is great news! Hopefully this will be the start of a quieter happier Katelin. On the weight thing maybe she's just becoming better at feeding in the last 24 hours and thats why she's more settled. You mentioned that she sounded different when feeding too in the last day? I'm sure she's just become an expert nipple sucker and she'll be up on the scales on friday. Lovely pic by the way - she's a little angel!

Oooh, poor Toby Fettle - how is his knee? Sounds nasty - at least you were at your mums so she couls entertaim DD so you didn't have to worry about her too. Its horrible when they are poorly .

So who do you reckon will win x factor then greeds? I think Alexandra - at least I think she deserves to win - I really dont get whats so good about the little welsh lad? His voice sounds a bit boring to me?

Good to hear from you too bodders? How was the nativity? Its Max's carol service on monday afternoon - the same afternoon as my work xmas lunch. I'd like to do both but I think the carol service will win as if I dont take him he wont be able to go.

Sorry you're suffereing again mrsmc - sounds rotten! Hopefully it'll come to an end soon? Ahhh, a little bump again! Its lovely when it shows - kind of makes it real. We had the same thing when max was born - lots of pound coins in his pram .

All good here - nice max is slowly coming back but he's been up to some naughtiness. we were at my mum and dads at the weekend and he drew on his bedding there with biro . He's never done anything like that before. But the plus side is that he's really come out of his shell as well is really standing up for himself so its like DH says, we can't have it both ways. I want him to be more confident but just wish the naughtiness would tone down a bit. Anyway, if this is all I havr to worry about then life must be good .

Anyway gotta go -- work to do... Grrrr

Hi everyone
Sorry I have been awol - we went on a little mini break to Cyprus for my b'day and just got back last night (after a fkat battery in airport carpark and defrosted freezer following power cut while we were away )- had a lovely time but did not get online so was gagging for babylove news and it is here!!

Welcome to the world Katelin so pleased for you all and well done you on the birth. I so sympathise with the tears - esp re the heel prick - poor little Cassius had 7 in his first 48 hours cos he was not feeding and getting jaundiced and jittery (they said?!) I was a mess and his tiny heals were black and blue I do not have any advice about the wind I am afraid as Cassius did not suffer with it but seems like the gals on here have got you covered as always! Also as everyone else has said don't worry about the midwife - mummy knows best Glad you are having a good day today and that she seems to be settling and sleeping more for you. I can clearly remember crying in the night when Cassius woke as I was so tired - I would pleading with him to go back to sleep! I found that in the first 4 weeks I just kept going but then I began to crash. I then tried to get a good nap at least once a day - often in the early evening and it really helped.

Ouch for lttle Toby fettle that sounds nasty and so worrying. Hope he makes a full recovery quickly. we are strictly fans too fettle - Am already worrying about what I will do when its over! saddo I am.

rainbow - thanks so much for your post re Cassius's weight - I think we are back on track now as the past week he has been guzzling food and even extra milk - sometimes up to 13oz at night ! I just think he was really poorly with some virus that lasted over three weeks with the vomming, lack of appetite etc. As all you fab grads said- he has come back around and seems to be making up for it now. Will try and weigh him next week to check. I also think he is such a long lean baby and always has been - all his effort seems to go into the length rather than the width iykwim!

Sorry greeds -dont really do xfactor - though I did like Diana and I think she went this weekend?

Bodders - hope the nativity went well

honey - Happy belated bday to DD - wow 6 sleepover sounds so cute!

Iammummy - Hope you get the tongue tie sorted. The Paediatrician checked Cassius for that in hospital when he was first born but I am stil not sure what it actually means? Hope Oscar is doing well other than that

Chooster - hope Max's Carol service goes well - aww Oops about the biro!!

Mrs - hope you are feeling better hon. It is one thing that scares me about TTC number 2 not being able to have a nap or rest if you feel rough! Hope it eases and you start to bloom soon

I am so unorganised about Xmas - have one most pressnts but no cards yet!! arghh also no tree or decs yet better get on it!

Other than that all is good with us - We had a lovely break with some warm sunshine which helped us all get over our colds etc. Plush hotel and Cassius was a star on the flights - charming all the stewardesses and even sleeping for 2 hours each way. He is so brilliant and makes me laugh every day. He is now clapping on command and trying to make the "mwah' kissing sound. He is also standing now which is really funny as he stands and then realises he is doing it and laughs and falls over . Other than that he is stomping up and down the house with his walker - DH says he looks like me pushing the buggy. Fast and hard!!

Gotta go and get some sleep (nighttimes still unsettled but swe are going to work on that this week - a bit of tough love I think

Waves and hugs to all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

hi all. bit of a me me me post im afraid......

marcy has had such a horrible cold the past week or so she hasnt been able to sleep for more than 30 mins at a time without waking up again. it has left me and her completely shattered. worst thing is when she gets so so tired she has strops and flings herself on the floor about anything so she has been doing this all the time for the past week or so. i put a hairband in her hair yesterday and her forehead is covered in bruises. she tends to sit down and then lean forward and headbut the floor when she has a strop but i had no idea she was actually bruising herself. it looks so horrible and i feel like a baby beater. she was actually much better last night and slept through till 6.30 so i think she must be on the mend.....and she only head butted the floor about 3 times this morning. whatever happened to my chilled out baby hey?

sorry, just had to share with you all. i definately find this age the hardest!

hope everyone is well (i know you wont be cos EVERYONE has a cold at the moment!) and getting all christmassy.

Aw greeds - sorry to hear you are finding things tough at the mo!

Have to say I find this age the loveliest! But each child is different - I wouldn't worry about her head-butting herself - if it really hurt she would have learnt not to do it by now! She'll be fine - maybe keep her fringe long for the time-being though!

put up our tree this morning while Toby was at nursery - see how he takes to it when he comes home.....

Big waves to everyone

Glad things are settling down with Katelin too, Babylove.

Seaside - fabulous sounding break - quite jealous of some warmth and sunshine!!!

xxx

Hey,

GREAT NEWS! I get my new washing machine on Saturday! Yes i know its SO sad to be excited about it but it'll be 3 weeks 2morro since it broke down! They came on Monday and said they'd fixed it, come Tuesday when i decide to do a wash, i turn it on, walk away and think 5 mins later.....its very quiet.....thats coz it doesnt bloody work still!!!! I rang and seriously complained, they sent the engineer back out the next day and they've said it is irrepairable. To cut a long story short, i have an extended warrenty so my new machine arrives on Saturday - YAY! Plus my old one was a Servis (who are now bust) so my new one is a Zanussi coz i hear they dont break down much....haha, we'll see!

Had the health visitor as a surprise visit today - she was so nice! We're not used to having people come and us liking them....after the midwives. She did her hearing test and its fine - yay! She also weighed her and shes gone up 2.5ozs in 3 days. Shes still 4ozs below her original birth weight which is sad but shes on the way up! With her being more content and sleeping a bit more, i think it'll start piling on now. We hope!

Thanks chooster, she looks like an angel when shes sleeping! Sorry to hear Max is being a bit naughty - good to hear he is confident though. Hang in there, i'm sure he'll get bored of being naughty soon, hes just pushing the boundries!

Hi Seaside! Wow, hope you had a good time on your hol - even if the visit home wasnt so good!!! Thanks, she is getting a little better - she has her moments of being a big grizzles! Tonights not been too bad but we'll see how the night goes! Glad to hear Cassius is doing well - he sounds like a right charmer!

Awww Greedy - dont worry, thats what we're all hear for - to listen to each other! Hang in there, she'll bounce back soon (will feel like forever i know) and then it'll all be ok again.

Fettle - well done on the tree. DP wants to get ours 2morro - when will i have time?!

Right, best go, its 11.30pm - not that that means much anymore!

xxx

Hi all, just popping back in briefly, I have been distracted with the ttc boards recently. But wanted to let you know that Ready is back!!!!! I am also hoping that rahrah comes to join in here soon too.

hi all!

im much much much happier than i was last time i posted! had a fab weekend! got horribly pissed on friday night with the nursery mums and my dh was a superstar and took care of the dc till i was with it on saturday .............i have to repay the favour next weekend though when he has his work do. got our tree up and it looks fab! visited father christmas today and i cried (always gets to me how innocent and believing the kids are and they seem so in awe of him, its great!!) and went to the annual xmas 'karate party' tonight which was fun too. marcy has been back to normal and a little cutie today. kiki has been a bit 'trying' but then i cant have them all behaving at the same time now can i?

my mum has broken her leg which is a it of a bugger, so not completely sure what we are doing at xmas now although she keeps insisting she wants to have it at hers still............anyway we will see...........im trying to stay calm about it cos i know she could turn around in a weeks time and say " actually can we all come to yours instead?!"

anywaY, hope everyone is well and i better go to bed cos i am knackered!

good to hear ready is back and i wonder how old firsty is getting on too? hope shes ok

Glad to hear that all is well again Greedy and marcy is back to her loveable self - even if Kiki has taken over the mantle of being a bit naughty! My little max is back to being a little sweetheart - I took him down to London to see from friends of mine for an overnight trip at the weekend and he was brilliant! They have a 2 yr old daughter and he was so patient and gentle with her and played with her loads. I was really proud of him . And DH and Theo had a great time together at home too so I'll definately do that again - maybe take Theo next time. The only pain in the arse was securtity at Stansted coming back on saturday. I stupidly had left something liquid in my bag so it was pulled over for searching, but there was a huge line of bags waiting to be searched ahead of mine and only one member of staff on . I was there 20 mins and fuming by the end - I dont normally lose my temper but I did start shouting at the supervisor . Anyway we headed away from security as it said final call for my flight - so I pegged it through the airport half carrying / half dragging max who couldn't run anymore only to find that the passengers were still getting off the incoming flight so it wasn't a final call at all, just a ploy by easyjet to get everyone ready and in the right place . Hence my second outburst in the space of 10 mins .

Anyway, last week at work and I'm very xmas excited .!!!!! Hope you are all doing well?

I know, I think about Firsty too and hope she's doing ok and has either persuaded DP to have a second baby, or she's happy to stop at Ty. My BF (who I was with at the weekend) is 7 wks pregnant with her second and I have to admit to a huge pang of jealousy!!!

Hi all,

Hmn, had a mixed few days. One minute she'll play ball, the next she wont! The health visitor has been today and weighed her and shes the same as before. They're coming next week and if shes the same, i'll have to part breast part bottle feed. I felt like a failure when she left. She did tell me though that im producing plenty of milk and feeding her enough, its just she is SO active that shes burning it off too fast and isnt retaining anything to build weight with. Made me feel a bit better but still, feel like im failing her.

DP has gone to work today for 6 hrs, we decided it was wise after speaking to people to have a few test runs before her goes back full time in the new yr. Have to admit, i was dreading it last night but its been ok. Health visitor left at 9.15ish, i changed her and cuddled her for a bit and then she was hungry again so i decided to have a go at some new tactics! I changed her again, fed her and cuddled her for 10 mins, she was still awakeish so i fed her again, cuddled for 5 and she was v sleepy so i put her in her basket, pulled the door to and walked out. She did her usual stirring and crying after 1 min (usually i'd pick her up etc) but i left her. The HV said to leave her for 15 mins, she shld settle within that time, if not go and get her coz it means she has a problem of some sort. We got to 12 mins and then silence! She slept for 1hr 40! WOW! She woke and after 10 mins of crying, i went up. I changed her, fed and completed the whole routine again and she stopped after 10 mins! Shes been down for 20 mins so far.....WOW! The HV said shes becomming dependant on us for comfort and to break the habit by letting her cry it out, ive been wanting to do this but wanted re-assurance that i wasnt being a bad mum by doing so.

It appears to be working, fingers crossed!

Fettle - very festive of you!

Greedy - glad you're happier but sorry to hear about your mum

Chooster - i think you have every right to have had your outbursts - im sure i'd have had some serious paddy too!!! Ridiculous!

guess everyone is off doing christmassy stuff!

hiya

well we are off to the snow early monday morning- so lots of love to you all and hope you all have a lovely christmas.

babylove- try to resist giving LO bottles- I'm sure she will put on weight soon- just keep offering her those boobies!

Hi all,

Well Christmas is going to be cancelled in this house! I am so upset about it, i have dreamt about the first xmas with DD for so long and its all going wrong. We had a friend visit last week and she didnt bother to tell me she had a stinking cold. She walked right in my house with it. Even worse is i STUPIDLY let her hold DD (i didnt realise she had this cold until she started snivvling over DD) and now i cant hide the guilt as DD has got her f*ing cold (excuse the french). I have done nothing but cry as i watch DD coughing, sneezing and crying with frustration. Shes 3 weeks old, shes too young to be dealing with this. I hate myself for letting that stupid woman in my home, i cant believe how much of a bad mum i've been.

Anyway, DD seems to be ok, i think shes on the up as her cough is settling and shes sleeping again. However she has the knack of coughing in my face and now i've caught the frickin thing! Hence why im on here at 6.30am! I have just made myself a docs apt for later today as i have a tendancy to skip the whole "cold" thing and go straight for a chest infection. I've been coughing all night and it looks like im heading that way again.

So basically xmas is cancelled, i'm full of guilt, i feel like crap and i'm seriously mad at DP. He is rubbish at getting up when DD crys, it takes me shouting at him when shes bawling her eyes out before he'll go to her moses basket (i do go too but hey, why should i have to everytime?!) Last night he told me that i should sleep in the other room as my coughing is keeping DD awake (which it is) so i did. However 1 hr later, DD is screaming her lungs out and hes still asleep. I had to go in and pick her up, change her, feed her, get her back to sleep, put her back in the basket (this takes an hr each time might i add) whilst he slept through the lot. 2nd time at 4am i screamed at him to wake up but he did, sat up and then dozed off again. So once again, it falls down to me to do it all. Yeh so he is going to work tomorrow, big deal. I've had 3 hours sleep so far, have a imminent chest infection and will be looking after DD all day whilst hes at work......

ARGH! Sorry, rant over!

oh dear babylove. you truly sound like a sleep deprived new mum. dont beat yourself up about dd getting a cold. im afraid its inevitable, you cant blame yourself and you cant stop her seeing anyone or being held by anyone.................they all want to hold your beautiful baby!

and as for dh, they are CRAP! its a well known fact! they are just not as tuned in to babies crying as we are and seem to find it quite easy to sllep through it. probably cos they knwo we will wake up and deal with them or shout at them until they deal with them.

try and get some sleep during the day if you can and i am sure things will seem better once you ahve had more sleep................please dont cancel christmas..............

well, in our house its been hectic! such a social life we have developed its been lovely!!! and i thought we had all been really lucky avoiding this flu and sickness bug too, but then little old kiki started throwing up yesterday morning. the three of them were due to go to the childminders at 9 am for 3 hours so we could actually do some christmas sorting and then kiki decided to be sick half an hour before they were due to go! typical! so we had a day of taking it in turns to sit in the bathroom with her while the other one entertained ellis and marcy. she seems fine now, so i am just waiting to see who is next...........dont fancy a vomity christmas

anyway............have a fab christmas everyone

Hi Greedy,

Just re-read my post and it was one hell of a rant! Sorry to subject you all to it! We're doing a bit better now, DP + i had a good chat and we've come up with a nightime system! However we're sleeping in seperate rooms at the moment (him in ours with DD and me in spare room) because i'm coughing so much (yes i do have an infection and am on anti-biotics!) and it wakes her up. Not ideal when im breastfeeding - i keep having to walk in and out to get her and put her back!

So she is looking a lot better and is coughing far less - whereas as i'm getting worse and coughing far more! Still i'd rather she was well and me ill, was so awful watching her trying to fight it.

We did have a nice day however yest. We went to one of the local attractions and took her to see Santa, oh HOW CUTE did she look sat on his knee?! Got LOADS of piccis of it! Was the sweetest thing ever!

HV came again today to weigh her - shes nearly 7lb 5ozs.....shes almost 4 weeks old and was 7lbs 6ozs when she was born. Of course she started on me about whether she is feeding enough etc.....whether im latching her on right (had to again demonstrate) and she said "oh, shes latching on beautifully and i can hear her feeding well, shes obv just going to be slow at gaining weight" - if they'd listen to me they'd know that!!! I keep explaining that DP comes from a family where they can eat ANYTHING and not gain a lb.....i reckon shes got his genes!

Greedy - oh no, not the sicky bug?! Hope you can escape it as much as possible! Poor little things - no ones idea of a good xmas!

Have a GREAT CHRISTMAS everyone!