👣 Due Nov/Dec 👣 the second trimester continues

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@confused107 I'm glad she was so kind! I don't think you can over react during pregnancy the hormones definitely don't help lol! This whole process can be scary but I'm glad she reassured you if you speak again maybe just ask if you can pop in to the day assessment (if there is one at your hospital) and have a listen to the heartbeat. The last thing you want to be is stressed you should be enjoying every moment ❤️❤️❤️

Thank you @nearlyamummyof2boys. She said they don't routinely listen before 24 weeks as per nice guidelines but she would if I were very worried (I'm 22 weeks). I have felt a couple of movements since. I don't want to end up being reliant on going in all the time, which I feel could easily happen with my anxiety, but then don't want to ignore anything either

@ChampooPapi have you seen that thread about the woman who's just been for 20 week scan and told boy after being told girl from the NIPT test?

Hi all completely fell off from the last thread but I planned to stay up to date with this. 25 week appointments will be on the agenda soon 😁. A question to all and I dont know if this has been mentioned or I'm abit later here, but what is everyones take on vaccinations during pregnancy? My midwife did mention during my 20 week about the whooping cough and flu vaccine that they highly recommend especially since all our babies will be due during flu season, however I've never been one for vaccinations. I told my partner this and hes not too happy about it, he keeps stressing me to do more research in the hope that I'll change my mind!

@Dee96 I'm all for vaccinations- they're the reason most diseases are now very rare! It's obviously up to you - but I think if it can keep you safer during pregnancy it's worth having - rather then risking it and falling ill.

I'm hoping on having the whooping cough next week I know it might give me a dead arm but if the NHS are offering it I will take anything that gives me extra reassurance!

@Dee96 already had my whooping cough jab. I had whooping as a kid and it was awful. My daughter has had all her vaccinations plus I paid privately for her to have the meningitis B vaccine.

@Dee96 I'd also been told to be wary of vaccinations but I am going for every one I can get because I want the baby (and myself) to be protected by any nasties out there. Babies can become seriously ill if they contract whooping, so I've heard, so I went for mine last week.

Can I just ask a potentially stupid question?! I'm looking at manual pumps (planning to breastfeed). I think I want the Medela Harmony Manual Single Breast Pump (www.<a class="break-all" href="https://amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011K7V3BQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1%29&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-pregnancy-3982336--Due-Nov-Dec-the-second-trimester-continues" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011K7V3BQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1) for when I'm not feeding baby and need to express, and the Haakaa Manual Breast Pump (www.<a class="break-all" href="https://amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07PR894PQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A217E4EHNXPHAA&psc=1%29&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-pregnancy-3982336--Due-Nov-Dec-the-second-trimester-continues" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07PR894PQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A217E4EHNXPHAA&psc=1) for when I'm either breastfeeding baby from one boob and want to catch any from the other, or from when I'm pumping from one boob and want to catch any excess from the other. Is this a good idea or excessive to get both? Tempted as they are very cheap on Amazon at the moment but don't want to buy things for the sake of it?

@danielasummer is this your first baby/ first time breastfeeding?

@Dee96 whooping cough is deadly serious in newborns. Pregnant women are advised to have it since the resurgence in 2012.
vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/pertussis-vaccine-in-pregnancy

Hi all only just discovered this thread, aware I'm a bit late so sorry about that! Hope it's okay if I join

I'm due December 26th with my first baby, also found out a week ago that I'm having a little boy

Does anyone have any tips on staying cool in this heat? I have been teary and upset all evening from how hot and bothered I am, my head is pounding and it's making my sickness so much worse 😓

@chubbyhotchoc yes first baby x

@danielasummer I'd just get one breastpump until you know how you're going to get in with it/ what your supply is like. Lots of women can't express at all but can feed.

@Amyyy1 I know it's simple but feet in a bucket of cold water is an absolute gift from heaven! I also find keeping all doors and windows closed so heat can even get in and then just my fan on!
Lots of cold water and I run the cold tap on my pulses on my wrists which cools my whole body down (OHs tip from the army lol)

I really really struggle with it as well so I feel your pain my love!

@Amyyy1 I also got on of those cooling gel packs recommended by the lovely @ChampooPapi

And that is lovely on the forehead for headaches -
mine is throbbing this morning as well.

Hope you feel better soon ❤️

Welcome @catnip99 💙

I had the whooping cough vaccination at my 20 week scan and had the rare reaction to it and ended up in hospital with a bag of fluids as I threw up everything I ate after, was getting hot and cold flushes, felt so dizzy I could barely walk, was shaking and felt so weak. The doctors at first were in denial that it was anything to do with the whooping vaccination and investigated everything possible but turns out it was the rare reaction, 1 in a million something stupidly high! Never had any reactions to vaccinations when I was a child, I'm in two minds now weather to get the flu vaccination in September when they offer it and also the vaccinations for baby! Will be doing a lot of research into them all.

@Dee96 I had mine a few weeks ago and am also very much in favour of vaccines. If anything the current Covid situation has reinforced that for me. Disease is awful. X

I use to be a bit skeptical about vaccinations with regards to autism for example because of its mercury content this has been researched but some still believe there is a link. But then after becoming pregnant I realised I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if my child was seriously ill or died from a disease a vaccine would of prevented so I think it’s best to vaccinate for your baby and others

@nearlyamummyof2boys Thank you for your tips! It's much cooler this morning but I still seem to find myself so hot and bothered for some reason 🥵 I've had a Fab ice lolly for breakfast ha!

Hi just checking in had a busy couple days mil 60th so had a bbq the sis in law 40th so another bbq my pram bundle came yesterday and now nearly packed away in my shed I havent looked touched it all I'm just gonna forget it's there till at least October lol but I got the ickle bubba stomp 3 pram and looks amazing my partner has looked said its light weight wheels look great and his very happy with the car seat I have a bloody nose it's all that extra blood pumping round I've read also bad bleeding gums every other day my dentist still shut feeling bubba move a lot more through the day now which is lovely but have been getting a few little twinges on left side which I think is due to growing pains etc not enough to concern me 21 weeks tomoz I'm counting down the days till I reach 24 weeks I also felt a lump which I'm sure wasnt there I got myself in such a panic but once calmed down and researched it is most likely a pregnancy thing but have since felt and not there any more so was wondering if it was a gland that came up and then went I'm very aware of lumps in boobs where I had a scare around 8/9 years ago glad all are doing well grateful for this cooler weather today ps I'm due 13 th dec so dont no how many days left will count

@chubbyhotchoc yes you're right, I didn't even think about if I don't enough produce milk/have a low supply. I think the amazon prices may have tempted me! @ChampooPapi curious to know your thoughts on this too my lovely as you are also clued up about such things!
@chubbyhotchoc hope you're feeling less anxious about your lump, has it gone down at all?

@danielasummer hey gorgeous, pump wise chubbyhotchoc is bang on, as she is most things 🙌, as regards type. Just get one basic breast pump, don't go electric unless you know you have to return to work or something a few months in. Generally they are useful at one time or another, you may even end up pumping very regularly, I which case you can ugrade but even when I used mine all the time with my first (because I went back to work when she was 2 months) I still just had a really basic manual pump that was absolutely fine to use. I do have the electric medela swing now which I brought from a friend second hand with my last baby, lol I can count on one hand how many times I used it and those were basically experiments as I'd never done an electric before. This time I should get some serious use as I'll be expressing exclusively as well as formula feeding, no breast this time with the twin for me. Definitely don't go expensive with a pump, they all do the same to be honest and if you had issues with a premature baby and needed to pump regularly the hospital will rent amazing electric pumps to you, to be honest I think they do this anyway to encourage the feeding of breast milk if your unable to actually 'breast feed'.

As far as the vaccinations go I'm very pro, and the link with autism was a total fabrication of evidence and falsifying of results, the doctor who wrote that paper (peer reviewed though it was) in the 90s has since been completely discredited as well as being exposed as a fraud as his test subjects actually already had autism BEFORE the vaccination of the MMR. Damage was done though and still is being done as people still believe there is some truth in it. As an example, 7000 children died of measles last year worldwide, a thousand alone died on the Congo. It is a killer disease as well as potentially making you blind or deaf as well as a host of other horrible horrible things.

And obviously mumps can make men infertile which they would never actually know about until they were trying to conceive so anyone having a baby boy, this is obviously a consideration 👍

Afternoon everyone! 20 weeks today woop, halfway through!! Feels a bit weird but good!

Welcome @catnip99!

I'm going to be getting every vaccination going. If you asked someone even maybe 50 years ago they'd never even question something that might protect their baby from something that's pretty likely to kill or disable them if they catch it. We just (for good reason) have a much different attitude to childhood disease now. Whereas before it would be more like 50%+ of children, poor children and royal children alike, would be dead from them before they were 5 now it's nothing like that figure. We're super lucky to have access to this quality of healthcare. I'm going to be getting the flu vaccine as soon as I can, I've asked my GP and they don't have it yet but as soon as they do I'll be getting it! The idea of giving birth in another lockdown is scary enough without any additional risk of something like flu.

@nearlyamummyof2boys thank you for the amazing heat tips! I'm going to put a cool pack in my Amazon basket now, can't believe I haven't got one before tbh as I still get bad headaches...can feel one coming now. My husband is from a hot country so he knows all about keeping a house cool haha so he was shutting the windows yesterday as soon as he woke up! And he bought me a mint choc magnum from the corner shop he goes alright sometimes haha! Today isn't so bad for us, nice and fresh so we're letting the breeze through.

Oh also anyone vaccinated in the late 80s or 90s although we were given the MMR , many of us were only given measles and rubella. I only found this out recently when my partner who is 33 (was never given any vaccinations as had very strong anti vaxi parents) was told this when he went for his a few weeks ago.

I always wondered how I managed to get mumps as a teenager as well as pretty much my entire friendship group, most of us 86/87 babies. But when my partner went they said oh better check your partner as although it was called the MMR (measles mumps and rubella) lots didn't contain the mumps part over those years. Obviously now I've had mumps I am immune but if you never actually caught it you can get a top up booster if you wish after you've had the baby, or when they give your baby it, for free. In fact they will immunise you for anything on the schedule that you missed for free of you want. My partner had to have a load ten years ago when our first daughter was born too like he was an actual baby as well! Some of the vaccines are live so they warn of this is you've not had them and often advise you to get them too, although he always wanted to get his all done.

You can call the gp surgery and they will be able to tell you what you've had from birth till now.

The only one like chubbyhotchoc had mentioned is one of the menigitus ones that only came available I think in 2017 or some such, so that you have to pay for, though it is free to all babies now and is on the schedule. I also paid for my first born to have it as she was born in 2010. Bloody expensive, think it was about 300 pounds, litrally eye watering hit for the credit card there