Pregnancy after MC Part 6 - supporting each other through the highs and lows

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I thought that this one sounded really good!

firststar - can't believe that I'm voluntarily putting myself through the nightmare that is sleep deprivation again!

DS is now 4 1/2 and sleeps well - but didn't for a looooong time - 'please God, can I have a good sleeper this time?'

Madam bean isn't one for early mornings - she doesn't start moving until about 9am - long may it continue!

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Things settled a bit today, orange cm and feel a bit more positive thanks for all your support!!

Glimmer ? thanks for your message for me I do remember when we were in limbo together! It?s nice to be together in happier times

Welcome Harveysaunt (still think I?m on to you ) I?d agree with what?s been said on scans. 6 weeks re-assures you that it?s not ectopic but 8 weeks you are more likely to see more Given your history, I really think they should be scanning you as a matter of course, stand your ground tomorrow. Good luck.

Lovely to hear from you Stretchmarks wow 32 weeks! totally understand where you are coming from, I probably won?t even have a bed for the poor mite in time because I still won?t be able to accept that its going to be ok. Just in case our paths don?t cross again in the next 6 weeks or so ? all the very, very best and keep me posted! Those pics are amazing!! Love the hands so you are having a blue one?

Hello Mumpbump, hello Plummy, hey Firsty

Furrymummy ? you take care!!

Hey Pinkranger how are you??!!

Hello Beckle ? thanks! 11 weeks ? yeah! Hope tomorrow goes really, really well. I?ve put on 3 pounds in 3 weeks I get the orange cm too. I don?t think that?s abnormal, does it smell ok? That?s a good indication of whether or not there is an infection.

Juicy ? thanks hon! Any suggestion of junior being ready to arrive?

Welcome elerose ? congratulations! I really hope that this time is your lucky one. I am so sorry for your losses you just have to take each day as it comes hon

Poor you Ejt ? hope the physio helps hon. Very good point about the pee ? my vits do that to me and maybe they are influencing my cm too

sorry to crash...just wanted to say hi to mrs mc, we are thinking of you over on the Due in New Year thread..... glad to hear the bleeding has stopped, thinking of you
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Ive been to my GP today and again he refused to send me a scan on the basis of my EP and the fact that i have no pain or bleeding .

Anyway he was asking me lots of questions and i wasnt really paying much attention as he really pissed me off. He asked me when my LMP was and i just said dont know (it was roughly around 10th may). He then said "well you'll need to have a scan so that we know how far along you are". So the im now getting my early scan but not because of the EP. GP is going to phone the ultra sound dept at my local hospital tomorrow to arrange an appt. So fingers crossed i should get my scan in the next couple of weeks . Dr said it would probably be next week when ill be nearly 5 weeks. I know that thats a bit early to see anything but i had one at 4.5 weeks last time and we saw the yolk sac etc. At least ill know that its in the right place.

MrsMcJnr, I've missed your mammoth posts bringing me up to speed with things! It's so cool that I am on a thread with you again!

harveysaunt - good news that you are getting a scan!

Not having a good day, one of my lab techs is spat his dummy out and is filing a grevience (he is totally unjustified btw, the little toerag, i've been holding off discplining him over the poor quality of work coz i want to give him the chance to him improve himself), had a row with hubby and ive had a brown discharge. I am seriously worried, had a dull pain in my lower abdomen most of today and now am scared stiff. Last time I had a brown discharge, i miscarried 4 days later. It is only slight but i'm worried all the same and not sure what to do....

Thankyou all for you lovely welcome and words of support. I don't know anyone in RL who has had a mc so it's a real help to have some support from people who really know how it feels. I agree about the scan would like to go at 8 weeks as had one at 6 with my 1st mc and no heartbeat seen so had to go back a week later and it was there but that week was agony. I didn't like to argue though because I know alot of people aren't offered early scans just for peace of mind. Anyway as has been said I think the only thing I can really do for this lo at the moment is try and stay positive.

I'm so sorry some of you are having a particularly worrying time at the moment fingers crossed for all of us.

I think every thing is fine, saw out of hours gp who said everything seemed okay and that I should try to rest and relax. Ha! Easier said than done methinks .
So how's everyone else this morning?

Furrymummy - glad that everything seems to be okay. I know what you mean about resting - everyone keeps telling me to take it easy, but if I do, the house will descend into chaos, there will be no food to eat and ds will have to go to nursery (assuming someone else manages to take him) in dirty clothes... I feel like I need about another 3 hours of "leisure" time in the day and then I'd have enough time to do everything...

MrsMcJnr - glad things have settled down for you too!

Harvey - what an *rsehole!! At least you got your scan and that's the main thing. All's well that ends well and all that!

Elerose - the time will drag until your first scan, I suspect, but once you get through those hard initial 12 weeks, it races past!

Hello everyone else! Got to go work...

OK deep breath...
Can I join you ladies? On the fabulous MrsMc's advice, I have found this thread. Am way too petrified to set foot on Due in Feb one. But feel I must make the postive step of saying, "yes, I am pg" and coming over here.
I'm 5+1 and got my bfp last week . I have a DS, got pg with him no probs....This my 2nd cycle after an m/c at 7 weeks in March which happened half way thru a feckin 10 day school trip abroad...not recommended...
As I'm sure you will all understand, I am in total limbo. Haven't told anyone in RL apart from DH, not even my mum. She know about last pg and had total breakdown when I m/c as it brought back all the memories of her m/c after me which all went Horrendously Wrong and ended in a hysterectomy at 29. so am going to wait until 12 weeks to tell her, as she lives 300 miles away it shouldn't be too hard!
The worrying thing is I'm not exactly beseiged with symptoms, just like last time. The odd wave of nausea, tender nipples and copious CM...but it's not like my boobs are on fire, i'm exhausted or I chuck up every morning...I keep trying to remember what I felt like during my successful pg with DS but to be honest I wasn't paying that much analytical attention (ah! innocence! )
But I do remember my boobs were AGONY from day 1. With failed pg, I tried to rationalise that they weren't as sore because it was a 2nd pg and I'd BF DS and my boobs were a bit more robust and "used" to the hormones iykwim? Now though, I'm panicking that the lack of agony in the boob department in this 3rd pg is a bad sign....
I, too, am detirmined to wait till 8 weeks for a scan so that we can, hopefully, be reassured by a heartbeat. But the mind games re even PHONING the feckin' EPU are driving me mad. Part of me wants to wait till 7 weeks till I even pick up the phone as don't want to jinx anything (I know, I know, am rational woman with degree and everything )
On the other hand, just after the 8 week mark we are going abroad for a month and I worry if I don't book a scan a couple of weeks in advance I won't get one.
DH not being that much help, says maybe we shouldn't even go for early scan as if no heartbeat will ruin holiday I replied that if no heartbeat, then would very probably m/c while anyway and at least I could mentally prepare myself for it
Enough! You must think i'm mental! Believe it or not I'm usually a happy bouncy person.
Thanks for reading. It feels good to say all this in words. BBxx

hi basil - welcome to knicker checkers anonymous!

Here's hoping you have a boring and uneventful pg. We've all been there, and so will happily discuss what others would think of as bizarre and wonderful syptoms (or lack thereof) ...

feel free to fret in our direction - I know the ladies on here were absolute lifesavers for me when I was first pg this time (previous 2 pg mc).

I'm comparing this pg with when I was pg with ds - there seem to be lots of similarities, but an awful lot of differences as well!

One thing I would advise it that you ring the EPU sooner rather than later: they may well want you to wait until 7-8 weeks anyway, and they may not have an appointment to suit you if you don't ring them early. I know it's frightening - let us know how you get on!

Basil - I had the same dilemma, with regard to early scan, wanted one just before holiday as I was going to be at the same stage i was when I miscarried. I would definitely push for a scan before you go, and try and get it booked now. Don't take no for an answer!

furry and ejt

OK, took your advice and I've just this minute rang the EPU. The midwife was very nice and I'm booked for a scan at 8 weeks on Thurs 28th.
Phewth! Feel better actually. Was half expecting to m/c on spot as I hung up phone but so far so good

Hi All

Hope we are all well? Had a v. sussessful conference, so much work though, all guests enjoyed it though apart from the apalling weather here at present, cyclone like and all.

I'm not sure my post will make much sence as i've crossed the boundries of tiredness after 4 nights of 5 hours sleep, can not even understand a children's book ds had to almost read to me tonight!!! IYKWIM

Welcome new people i hope the first tri mester flys unusually fast for you all

Mrs Mc- how are you? hope all ok now, how was last scan?

I'll catch up more later

anywaynblong longe

welcome new peopledooik at present after skim read of some

told you i couldn't make sence

Uki, those last 2 lines were pure genius! Glad your conference went well!

basil - well done you for plucking up the courage to ring EPU - and here's hoping the time 'til the 28th goes quickly for you ...

ejt has finished the set of reports she'd set herself for today - now can get off this mega-uncomfortable chair! Hurray!

Well, physio yesterday was very positive for me, without actually changing anything. She confirmed that I'm doing all the right things, has given me some more exercises to do, and has referred my for hydrotherapy! Apparently there's a 'symphysis pubis class' at the main hospital in the hydrotherapy pool! She also confirmed that she thought I shouldn't be in work (her very words were: 'I'm surprised you managed 2 days!') and has told me to keep taking the tablets (well, not taking them, but you know what I mean - what terminology do you use for suppositories anyway) - whilst admitting that they won't do any more than take the edge off the pain.

Physio in charge of hydrotherapy has phoned me this morning and has told me that they've got a waiting list! I have to wait until a couple of the ladies in the class give birth ... so won't be going to the session next week, but there may be space for me the week after!

Right, going to take advantage of the nice weather ... would go and watch a bit of tv, but our set-top box has blown up - and they can't get anybody out to us until next Wednesday! I wouldn't mind so much, but we've only had this one a week - the last one was about 7 years old and blew up 10 days ago! Have made mutinous noises about wanting a refund for days without service - it'll be 10 of last 14 days by the time they get around to us, and they've agreed in principle to a refund!

Sunshine, here I come ... you just watch as a freak snowstorm hits Penarth!

Hello to all
Furry glad all seems ok

Basil I'm 2 days behind you and barely any symptoms as yet but have had a couple of headaches in the last day or two which I had with dd but neither of my mc which I'm hopeing is a good sign.

Hi ladies for those of you who remember me, I was on this thread a few months ago but left after my second mc in six months in March. I am delighted to say I am back now, with positive pg test this morning!
Uki Glimmer Ejt and Mrs Mac, nice to see you are all still here!
Have not read back through this thread but will pick it up from here. I hope I stay on here for a while this time. Everything is crossed.

Thanks for your post PCM ? scary days but we?ll get through them together!

Harveysaunt I am so sorry your GP is being such a jerk! That is ludicrous that he then decided to scan you early for EDD reasons instead I hope they do give you an early scan, sure they?ll call you back for another if it?s too early to see a heartbeat

BellaBear ? thanks hon, you are sweet! How are you feeling?

FurryMummy ? sending you huge hugs, too much stress going on. How is the discharge now? Has it stopped? How are the pains? Glad the GP seemed relaxed. I totally understand about your fears that history is repeating itself. You take good care x

Elerose ? hang in there

Mumpbump ? hello!

Welcome Basil this thread is strong medicine for us oh so scared ladies! still can?t believe you were on that school trip when you lost your LO. Glad to see you getting all those worries and fears out you?ve heard enough from me lately so I?ll let the others advise you where are you off to for a month? That?s great about your appointment ? perfect

Ejt ? hello! That?s great about the physio. What are you going to do about work then?

Hey Uki glad the conference went well. Hope you are going to get some rest this weekend. My scan went well thanks, perfect 8 week bean with a strong heartbeat ? I exhaled for the first time in weeks only to catch my breath again sharply that very night when I had brown spotting I had a bit more the next day but nothing since. The EPU told me that as brown means more than 24 hours old, the scan still holds and I should try not to worry. Can?t help it though They won?t re-scan me for re-assurance but I guess my dating scan won?t be too far away. I pleaded with DH to let me have a private one just before we go on hols next week but he said no, it?s money we need for other things and I can?t have scans whenever I am worried how are things with you?

Hi Taichi - lovely to see you back!! congrats on your bfp - hopefully this will be a boring and uneventful pg for you this time around!

Mumpbump - you have my sympathies on the spotting just after the scan! The bleed I had this last time was barely 4 days after my 21 week one - unfortunately, I'm afraid we're unlikely to be able to relax and enjoy these pg as much as we'd like.
The spotting may well just be from where they inserted the proble thing (I'm assuming it was an internal scan here, forgive me if I'm wrong). Thinking of you ...

As for work, I've been signed off again ... the GP agreed with my boss that school is not a safe place for me to be right now, and signed me off. I don't know that I have the energy to insist that I'm signed off under Health and safety regulations instead - as that would be a suspension on full pay, rather than having to go onto sick pay.
I really should phone up the hr department of the council - having already been signed off for 12 weeks from hyperemesis, I don't know how much time I've got left of my full pay sick pay (if you get me)

hmmm ... may do a bit of research ...

speak soon!

Hi everybody.

Incredible how much posts there were in the last days....

Furry -- I am so sorry about your distress. I hope things are fine. It's scary since you associate your symptoms with mc, but chances are they are completely normal. Let us know how you do.

EJT -- so sorry to hear in how much pain you are. Physiotherapists seems competent, even if she sais you just have to get through it. I am glad you can take some time off, wouldn't mind myself...

Welcome and congratulations, Elerose and Basilbruch. The first weeks are incredibly hard and the time just doesn't seem to pass. Come and post here, however you feel. I started having symptoms toward the end of week 6, so don't worry about lack of symptoms -- it's seems very early to get them....

VV -- same for you, hang in there!

Mumbump -- just give the people who give you good advice a job to do! Think of you.

Harvey -- can't you try and change your GP?
He seems really incompetent. But glad that you got your scan booked even if for the wrong reasons.

Beckle -- all the best for your scan !! and sorry to hear you are worrying. Hope all will be good and you can get a little break from worrying.

MrsMCJ -- phew! Good to hear that bleeding has slowed down. Hope it will stop altogether and you can get a rest from worrying!

I was busy moving house in the last two days.
Oh, so much to do! Problem was that new place hasn't been cleaned properly and I had to threaten with small claims court etc. Hope we'll get it sorted out (there is rotten stuff in the fridge -- it's really disgusting). DH is very handy when it comes to lifting heavy objects etc. It's really nice to have him with me know and have a new 'home' together, but will take a little time adjusting.

Firststar -- >

Was scheduled for NHS-appointment with the consultant I know from private scans (got transferred from midwife) . He said: 'why are you here -- I expect you will have a normal pregnancy, you don't need consultancy care'. Couldn't have said anyhing nicer! There was a medical student there, and so they reviewed my history (I am supposedly an interesting and rare case). Wasn't quite prepared to revisit my traumatic time last year and started crying. But all in all I am happy that I am hopefully out of there!

I think I feel the first movements of LO! No bubbles or flutterings but distinctly sharp kicks. Love them, and can't wait to get another one, although they hurt. It's not regular yet....

And finally I was outed at work today as a colleague (female) confronted me with the question: Are you pregnant? I would like to wait until the 20 week scan in 2.5 week scan before telling my boss, but would prefer he learn from me rather than somebody else...
Don't know what to do.

Crossed with you Taichimum ? yeah! congratulations hon! So lovely to have you back with us! How are you feeling? Deep breath ? each day as it comes and remember we are always here for you

Thanks Ejt ? we live in fear a bit don?t we thanks for your support. Wasn?t an internal scan though. So glad you have been signed off hon, I?m relieved for you! Hope you can get the pay to work to your advantage

Hey Glimmer ? hope the house move goes well sorry to hear it was in a bad way. I can totally understand that having DH here full time takes some adjustment! Sorry to hear the appointment was traumatic but all sounds positive for this little one can?t wait for kicks how exciting!! how rude of your colleague to ask like that!!! What did you say? I guess you might need to tell you boss now

Glimmer - would rather not be off to be honest with you - I like my job! Unfortunately, the combination of an anterior placenta, me on crutches, the narrowest corridors you have ever seen in any public building anywhere, and 900 teenagers, most of whom are taller than me is not a good mix!

Sorry to hear your new house was left in a state - hope everything gets sorted out.

Hope you get used to being together with dh too!

Take care ....

Have done a bit of research - may be useful for any other teachers here ...

Sick pay for teachers with 4 or more years service is 100 working days on full pay then 100 working days on half pay. Working days don't include weekends and public holidays, but does include school holidays.

The working year starts on April 1st and ends on March 31st. The counter is then re-set to 0 - as long as you're not on sick leave at 1st April in any one year. If you are, then it counts as the previous year's sick leave until you come back.

I always thought it was counted in school years, and went from September to September ... now I'm not so worried about trying to force myself in. The time I was off with hyperemesis counts as last year's sick leave - and the counter has been re-set to 0.

Anyway - now am really going to enjoy the sunshine!