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Posifrickinspring thread for PG after MC!

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BertieBotts · 11/02/2018 19:59

If we can't be positive about the weather what can we be? Grin

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FoxtrotSkarloey · 11/04/2018 18:25

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MsJuniper · 11/04/2018 18:32

I'm so sorry @AnneLovesGilbert. That is heartbreaking news.

keepinghopeful · 11/04/2018 18:33

Oh @AnneLovesGilbert im so so sorry, just devastated for you x

notparticularlypatient · 11/04/2018 18:36

I find it really hard wrap my head around the unfairness of it all. So sorry for your loss, anne. Thinking of you and your DHThanks

LimpLettice · 11/04/2018 18:46

Anneloves I'm so, so sorry to hear that. No words but thinking of you Thanks

LisaSimpsonsbff · 11/04/2018 19:11

Oh Anne, I'm so, so sorry. It's incredibly shit and unbearably unfair. You and your DH deserve so, so much better than this Flowers

Flatwhite32 · 11/04/2018 19:13

Oh @AnneLovesGilbert I'm so so sorry. My heart breaks for you. Sending much love your way. Xx Thanks

Cakelaur · 11/04/2018 19:22

@AnneLovesGilbert I'm so sorry!!!! There are no words. I hope all goes as well as it can tomorrow and you have good support and some time to rest.

hotcookie · 11/04/2018 19:46

Anne I am so so sorry to hear that. Please take care of yourself. x

keeponrunning85 · 11/04/2018 19:51

Oh Anne, I am so, so sorry. I am absolutely gutted for you. I have no words.

Smurf123 · 11/04/2018 19:58

Anne I am so so sorry. Thinking of you and your dh Thanks

UnicornsandRainbows1 · 11/04/2018 21:00

Oh Anne I'm so, so fucking sorry. I really hope they can do things quickly for you. There really are no words to make it better. I literally have nothing and that basically explains how shit this situation is. Please make sure you look after yourself! I am heartbroken for you

BertieBotts · 11/04/2018 21:34

Anne :( That is properly shit. I am so sorry.

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Slomi · 12/04/2018 10:12

I'm so, so sorry Anne, it's so unfair. Please mind yourself. You are in my thoughts Flowers

BloominMoomin89 · 12/04/2018 16:12

So sorry Anne. I hope your docs are understamding and start looking for answers for you when you are ready xxxx

Update: had my booking in appointment and booked for scan tomorrow at 1045 due some green discharge and stabbing pains with loss of all other symptoms apparently making them concerned about ectopic.

intelligentPutty · 12/04/2018 18:45

It amazes me how some people really do not understand how scary this whole process is after losses.
I have a friend who is on second pg (and second child) . it's all so exciting this time round. No problems at all scan all good. (Of which I am very happy for her).

I so wish I had the same blind faith in it all.
Best comment was 'well your body's pretty good at telling you if it's going wrong'. No not really since 2nd mc was when the baby had already gone.
Really no idea!!
Not their fault I know. Just needed to rant.

I guess sometimes it is better to keep it all inside!

aetw · 12/04/2018 19:50

Gosh, Anne, I’m so sorry. My heart goes out to you and your partner. Xx

Flatwhite32 · 12/04/2018 20:12

@intelligentPutty that comment about your body telling you if something is going wrong is awful! With my MMC I had no symptoms, and I still had pregnancy symptoms! It was such a cruel trick of nature. I carried my sleeping baby for 3 weeks with no signs whatsoever. Whoever said that comment is out of touch with reality. Grr.

You're right in that some people don't understand. Lots of people assume that because I'm 25 weeks, I'm now really confident about everything. That really isn't the case, as my MMC showed me how uncertain pregnancy can be, and that plays on my mind every day. It's hard!

emwithme · 12/04/2018 20:46

Anne that is totally shit, I'm so sorry

Intelligent That comment was awful. While I did start bleeding in both my miscarriages, scans showed that bean had stopped developing over two weeks earlier in both cases. I was having awful symptoms in both cases until after it had been confirmed that everything had gone wrong (when I passed the tissue in the first case, and after the ERPC in the second).

I'm 6 weeks today. Seriously knackered, feeling pukey 90% of the time, SO burpy it's ridiculous and the only thing I want to eat is chips. I've also bitten the bullet and booked an early scan for next Friday (when I'll be 7+1) - we're off visiting DH's family the week after so either I can share the news with them or I can get ridiculously drunk.

intelligentPutty · 12/04/2018 21:16

My reply was along the lines of.
Well no actually. In the second one it had already died inside me.
It was harsh and swift but got the message across.

And the conversation quickly changed to another subject.
@flatwhite. I'm so sorry it's still hard. I hope it will get easier for us all but I suspect but until we have them in our arms we will be fraught.
@emwithme hope that the scan goes well next Friday. And that the symptoms get easier.

I'm wondering whether to book a scan for end of next week (when I'll be 10 weeks). wonder if it's worth it though. I might just wait for the 12 weeks and take each day as it comes.
Of course I will change my mind at least 3 times a day until then!

FoxtrotSkarloey · 12/04/2018 21:24

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TheGrumpySquirrel · 12/04/2018 21:50

Very relieved to report anomaly scan went smoothly today and all is looking healthy. I cried on the way in I was so nervous! But I got some amazing pictures of his face. 💙

Thinking of you Anne x

Yes the walking around believing I was pregnant for weeks after baby had died last year with my MMC was the worst thing. I felt tricked by my body.

TheGrumpySquirrel · 12/04/2018 21:51

It's finally starting to feel more real.

Cakelaur · 12/04/2018 22:10

Omg @TheGrumpySquirrel amazing pic!!! Gorgeous!! Can't wait to hopefully get to this point!!! It's gonna be a Loooong wait!!!

BertieBotts · 12/04/2018 22:36

Nobody does understand it, and it is crap. I would love to be excited and carefree but the fear comes back and gets you, and I've "only" had early losses, which I wouldn't have said affected me that badly! I mean I know we have the other genetic fear as well but it's still the sense that something could go wrong at any time, that you're not immune from it whereas I think if it's never happened to you you can blindly just tell yourself oh those things happen to other people, not me.

Still struggling a bit with our risks. After talking to DH we went to the doctor the next day for the more detailed scan and he asked us if we'd decided to do any more testing (amnio, basically) or if we just wanted the scans, and so I said we'd decided not to do the amniocentesis due to the risk but explained about this NIPT I'd found. He was really good and knew all about it already which was nice. But he said that it will only ever give you a risk factor, and also because it's a non standard test we'd likely have to ask our health insurance ourselves and they might say no because an amniocentesis will give you the same answer but with more certainty. And even if they did cover it we'd have to pay upfront and then get reimbursed which could take months and we don't have the money available, let alone spare, so we have ruled that out. Then he was asking if we got a positive result would we terminate, and I said yes and kind of looked at DH to confirm and he wasn't really meeting my eyes and I got the sense he was uncomfortable, so I was unsure again. DH asked what exactly was involved in the amniocentesis and what the risks were, and the doctor said he would show us when he did the scan, so we had the scan, which was nice and reassuring (except the baby's head is off the scale big! Gaah! But he said this was totally okay and not a sign of anything! Confused) We talked some more about the amnio and I asked how quickly we could get an appointment if we wanted to do it so he made us the appointment for today (!) and said think about it and just call in the morning to cancel if you don't want to do it. We can also go back on Tuesday next week if we cancelled but change our minds.

So... that happened. I had to go to work afterwards which was a bit of a headfuck and DH had to go back to work as well. So I asked if he had time to get some lunch so that I wouldn't have to think about it all on my own all day, and he did, so we went to McDonald's and talked it over until my brain was just hurting and too full and I had no idea what to do any more and I felt like I was going to cry. He was saying that he doesn't think he could go through with a termination at this point anyway, not now we know we are having a boy and he's felt him move etc. He said he'd support me if it was what I wanted but if it was up to him he couldn't make that choice, and he'd rather deal with the possibility of disability, especially as it's a small possibility. We also both felt that it's silly to introduce a risk around the same or higher than the risk we're wanting to rule out. He said he's okay with the risk of the amniocentesis but he was worried about how both of us would cope if it led to a loss. We talked about how we'd get support if we did have a child with a disability, and I was alleviated a bit because he expressed quite a strong conviction that he'd take a larger role than I was envisaging. My fear is still that I'll be anxious the rest of the pregnancy not knowing and I'm worried about PND/PNA and not bonding with the baby. Ultimately my main thought yesterday was "What if I don't/can't love the baby?" and trying to write off the guilt of feeling that too, because guilt isn't going to help me process it, even if it's fair. I was finding it too hard to even call the baby "he" and kept saying "it" and again not wanting to look at the ultrasound picture or think about names despite having been happily scrolling through my name app on the way to the appointment. DH was annoying me a little saying that if the test would help alleviate my stress it would be useful because he's allowed to be stressed but he's worried me stressing will hurt the baby. I said I am allowed to be stressed and it's not a risk to the baby.

Then I missed my train from McDonald's to work, found the next one was nearly an hour and just burst into tears on the platform and felt shit about everything for a minute. I think that helped TBH. I could solve the train problem so I had my little tension release and then looked up the nearest stop on my app and that was something under my control so I felt better, like I could move on and go and concentrate on work. I didn't really do my best but never mind. By the time I got home in the evening I had mostly decided I didn't want to do it (but brain still too full/overwhelmed) and then DH said let's not do it for now, but we can make the appointment for Tuesday if it's still bothering you over the weekend. I felt relieved when he said that so we decided definitely to cancel and I cancelled this morning and went to work instead. I only had the one class, so I had the afternoon and all of tomorrow to decompress and try to think about it privately without anything else going on. I am doing a bit better today - managed to go out and look at some clothes and even bought a few new bits but got frustrated and overwhelmed with needing to drink constantly and eat and then find toilets (which are scarce in Germany) so it didn't end up as a hugely bonding experience! I found a name I liked last night too but I think DH hates it but he's too scared to say in case it sets me off again Grin

But ultimately I think that now we've talked things over I don't want to do the amnio. I feel like while I'd be doing it for reassurance it is basically just opening the door to having to do a whole lot more thinking and discussing and making hard choices and we could just accept that the scan looked good and be done with it now and not have anything more to worry or stress about. What will be will be. I had been thinking that while a late termination would be horrendous it might be easier than the alternative overall, but now that I've realised DH's feelings on this have changed I'm not sure about that any more, and if it's not so clear cut then it doesn't seem worth the risk.

Would we like a new thread BTW? I can start one. Fresh start :)

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