October 2004 - Moose massive, part 3

[beansprout]

Does anyone want to come and play here? There's loads of space!

Anyone lese noticed the first October birth - Allyco has posted on the birth thread. No ironing bumps here - DH has been ironing since we got married - 5 years before the first baby, can't be too cautious in my opinion!

Hi - another hot, big moose hoping for rain here. Couldn´t face walking upstairs to computer - just required too much energy and I have none at the moment.
Tried perineal massage last time, but still managed a cut and tear. Will give it another go this time and hopefully get a better result. Needless to say I was in no mood to emulate Zoe Ball after that experience.

I bought Rosehip seed oil on recommendation from Neale's Yard for the "massage". I agree that the term massage is totally misleading.

I've started on the raspberry leaf tea and was told to add some lemon to it. If you put enough in it makes it almost bearable (in that hold your nose whilst you drink it way).

Getting my final pre-db haircut today - do you think it'll make me look like a sex kitten? Or a giant weeble with shiny hair?

I hope everyone is feeling well.

p.s. Coddy - I'm back on line at last

Well, we got our wish for cooler weather (in Wales at least) as it's drizzling here at the mo.
I am off work today, was awake a LOT last night with painful throbbing fingers swollen to the size of baguettes! Couldn't bear the thought of struggling into work on very little sleep, so am here, typing with my podgy digits instead. Going to get some hot chocolate and then curl up in bed, hoping I'll fall asleep ...
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Huppa, I heard perineal massage only really makes a difference if you haven't already had a cut/tear - so I'm not bothering this time. However from what I can recall, wheatgerm oil is meant to be good, and you can make it a "shared" experience IYKWIM if you find it awkward - although this brings us dangerously close to the topic of "relations"! Toots you make me laugh! I know exactly what you mean though - I have to admit I have used my small sample here to verify my claim that our lack of activity is not unusual at this advanced stage...

BTW Bibiboo, sounds awful - I think you should definitely rest. When do you go on leave?

Haven't started perineal bothering yet, but do have some wheatgerm oil so seems I don't have an excuse not to... oh joy!

Bibi - sorry you had a bad night, hope you get some rest today.
Piglit - you will look like a sex kitten of course, no question.

Big moose love to everyone else.

Morning everyone

I am not going to massage anywhere as I tore last time and am still not thinking about the birth if I can help it!

Bibiboo - it's cooler here too (45 miles down the M4!) but not drizzling. Hope you feel better later. I could not get comfy last night and slept in the armchair in the DDs' room for nearly 4 hours! I took my pillow collection with me, naturally Sitting up seemed to take the pressure off my bump, but my back is aching a bit today!

Hope everyone else is OK. Good news about Allyco - hope her baby gains weight again soon and that they can make Allyco better too.

Is anyone else stressing out about db's position? My osteo suggested that I give up our comfy sofa and sit upright in a high backed chair to make sure db ends up in the right position (he is at the moment). That's all very well but I get backache if I sit "properly" for too long and have been looking longingly at the sofa this morning. I'm also doing my best to sleep on my left side but often end up on my right as nothing else feels comfortable.

Oh, and I suspect that the perineal massage has to be a double act, unless you have arms as long as Mr Tickle.

Am a bit concerned here as Bean has been in the same position for about a week and I'm just hoping it is the right one. Am seeing GP later. Have a nagging guilt trip every time I find myself not sitting bolt upright/kneeling on all fours.

Also my b/feeding workshop has been cancelled at the last minute. Damn this preg. not going to plan!!

Not sure about anyone else, but I think a double act of perenial bothering would just render "relations" stone dead?!

I know what you mean about the "bothering" Beansprout but I have (only just) come to the realisation that my dignity has gone/will go right out of the window with this pg/birth malarkey. My antenatal teacher is so into this perineum stuff and quoted all kinds of statistics at us last week that it made me think I may as well give it a go. I really do have a morbid fear of a tear and/or a cut so if this has a chance of working then it'll be worth it. Having said all of that I'm sure my good intentions will last about 3 days.

Well, I didn't sleep, but got a good way through my book, so a bit mnore relaxed now. Piglit, I've been finding sleeping on my right side is the only comfy position too, but aren't we meant to be on our left for some reason? On back I worry I'm compressing things that baby needs, can't sleep on front obviously, right side is meant to be bad and left side is not comfy and makes left boob leak an awful lot - shall I just get a chair too?
I have a visit to the midwife this afternoon, who is going to try and stick needles in me / and tell me there is nothing she can do about CTS. God, I'm a misery today aren't I?!
Am off to try and reach my perineum (sp?) although part of me is hoping I can't so I don't have to bother it.

For those of you as terrified of labour as I am, don't do the following: Visit a friend with a new born.
I spent about an hour cradling an ickle 6 pounder last night and wondering how on earth something that size could get out of my lady bits, let alone a bouncing 10 pounder like dh was. It's scary and horrid and I wouldn't advise seeing new borns at all if you can help it. Yes, they're cute and lovely, and I seeing her mum looking so well and active (and slim grrrr!) only a week after the birth filled me with hope, but even tiny babies have big heads. And on that happy note I'll leave you ...

Good luck with baby position this pm Bean. Hoping mine is head down too.

LOL about Mr Tickle, Piglit. I admit, going solo one is constantly escaping oneself, as it were - but I found having dp do it last time involved too much psyching up and too much capacity for getting annoyed by it being done 'wrong'.

I am fretting slightly about the positioning thing too. It's great at the moment.

However, my biggest worry is work. Was hoping to cruise into seeing it all delivered this/next week, but some bright spark (she is fabulous actually, and has been away on maternity leave so out of the loop for months) has made some suggestions about a script I thought I'd finished that mean I could be working up to the wire. I could say no, but I actually think she's right, and if I can complete it, then so much the better, as it won't be sitting around unfinished for months. Anyway, it's not like I flog myself that hard. Have just been for nice kip! Brain cells depleting by the day though.

Also, Bibi and Cerys, and anyone who can't get comfy at night, poor, poor you. That's rubbish. There's nothing actually wrong with sleeping on your right side, is there?

Nothing wrong at all. Left side slightly more "optimal" in terms of blood flow to placenta but no problemo with right hand side. I have to change through the night (after walks) as my hip aches too much.

Am at work and almost in tears at the succession of "look at you", "it's going to hurt like hell", constant assessments on my body shape etc etc etc type comments . Yesterday I actually asked my boss if there is a clause in the disciplinary procedure that means I get off scott free if provoked? Am sick of the lot of them. They aren't even being nice. F**ckers

Sorry to dump on our lovely thread.

Bean, tell them to sod off. Nastily. As in 'no, I don't have a f8cking sense of humour at the moment, actually, and I am quite happy to ram a pineapple up your incidentally lumpy and unappealing arse'.

Bean, that could be me speaking! We're running a sweepstake for the baby - yes, I know it's wrong to encourage people to gamble on our unborn child, but I thought it would be fun. Anyway, almost every one of the fckrs (glad I'm not the only person who uses those terms) who have put their guesses forward so far has wished me a large and late baby. Gee thanks! The boy girl split is about equal, but the weight is averaging about 9lb and by their guestimates I'm going to be in pg misery for at least 42 weeks!
people are so unkind.
I am going to get a big sign to wear round my neck from now on that will inform people that "In fact I've only gained 13lb at 34 weeks, which I think is pretty good going considering my tendancy to weight gain and the amount of chocolate I've consumed, so if you can't say anything other than how hugely pg I look, F-off!"

Rant over

What a bunch of wank*rs

Tell them on Friday (last day?) tell them that you won't miss their unhelpful and undermining comments. Can you do a speech to the whole office? Without crying? God I'm furious for you Bean, and you Bibi with your miserable workmates (and well done, 13lbs is amazing.

You dump all over this thread Bean, dump away. Never forget that you have been fundamental to its loveliness and I'm sure I speak for every one of us when I say how much you have contributed to my well-being and fond fellow feeling since January.

(muttering) Wank*rs. Grrrrrr.

You are all lovely and (sniff) I feel better now. Have just been speaking to dp and just burst into tears "I don't know what I would do without the meece (sob)...", but now have it out of my system a bit. Have a meeting with Mr. Boss this afternoon so will be in the refuge that is his office. I did actually cry when I read your post Toots, but Ms. Professional demeanour now re-established.

Bibi - I have gained over 13kg, not pounds so am very impressed!!

I haven't been near a set of scales since 11 weeks and don't intend to until, oh, 2008 at the earliest.

And Beansprout - please do just say something stroppy to these awful people. It really is so outrageous that they should be commenting on your size. Perhaps we should have t-shirts printed saying that "we are not public property so keep your uninformed views to yourself". Or else "F*ck off - I don't care what you think of the size of my bump"

What I lack in comments I make up for in evil thoughts.....
Had a good meeting this afternoon and my lovely boss just treated me like a proper grown up without a single ref to my shape and so I feel better. Note to self - tomorrow I will not allow my sense of well-being to depend on stupid people....

Have just come back from the Drs and the Bean has started to engage.... Also, am 38.5 cm at 36 weeks, so a bit big. Turtle - how are you getting on? Are they still talking about inducing you early?

Thanks for being such lovely meece today. Not sure what I would have done without you.

Has physio and scan today, 2 trips to the hospital not what I planned for my child free day. But baby is head down despite midwifes opinion otherwise,seems bigger than average but that is par for the course for me, think i'll keep consultant appointment for Friday as have more faith in him than the midwife!

Bean did you notice a big difference when baby's head became engaged? I have had so much pressure down there and every time I stand up and I think I am going to wet myself, run to the loo and very little comes out - grrr Every now and then I get a shooting pain right down into my ahem, vagina - it actually feels like the baby foot or arm is going come shooting out??? Weird cause I know her head is down.

I think my bubster my be engaged and I am just coming up to 34 weeks!! Maybe it's because she is so big that there is no where else to go but down? I have midwife appt next week to find out measurments etc.

The girls in the office have organised a lunch for me (last day tomorrow) I have already got a beautiful pink cardigan with matching hat - it is just gorgeous and I am sure would of cost a fortune!! Also I understand there has been a collection for me for gift certificates at the White Co. which I lurrve!! I feel really spoilt today!!

I can't believe how wonderful it feels knowing I won't have to work for the better part of a year!!

Turtle, v envious of your impending leave from work. I have 10 days left and counting ...

I am 34 weeks as well and MW told me yesterday baby's head was VERY LOW but she didn't mention the word "engaged". I am getting exactly what you described, the shooting pains and pressure when I get up, and the disappointing trickles of wee when you think you need to go loads. It takes me about 20 mins and 4 trips to the loo to empty my bladder now!
Bean, glad your boss treated you like a human and not a host agent. How are you today?

Oh well, I was hoping engaged which could mean early? Yep I guess my bubster quite low too!!

Your time at work will go quickly now - I promise. Hope your hands aren't giving you to much gyp.

I can't bear to think of how much weight I have gained exactly. I know it's a hell of lot more than 13kgs though.