Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Morning fellow Hgers.

I need advice if anyone knows about gestational diabetes.

I failed my GTT, going back to hospital tomorrow for a talk on improving my diet. I'm expecting ditch the potatoes and bread and eat veg, protein and salad. Waaaah how can I do that with hg. Bland carbs are my friends, my only friends.

Thank you, everyone. Feeling a lot better now after IV and didn't vomit at all in hospital. I did four times as soon as I got home, but I think that was 'just' the normal pregnancy vomiting. So confusing to have both going on at once, but felt decidedly less toxic than the norovirus vomiting the precious night. (They think that's what it was from inflammation levels in blood, but doing stool sample today.) Was in for about 10 hours and was actually very nice to have the rest. Midwives very kind.

Castle: sorry about your GTT test. What were the results? Mine seemed weirdly low (under 4 for 2 hours) and think this was what led me to buy and scarf down a sandwich from a very dodgy shop immediately afterwards, in a shaky mess, which could have induced illness. I think a lot of the advice is about regularity of meal times, not just about avoiding certain foods, which maybe makes it seem easier? Also apparently good to take a walk after eating carb-heavy meals.

Waiting for a scan and feel like I might vom. What's the protocol here? I have bags, the toilet is out of action.

Sorry to hear that castlefleck it's another worry isn't it. I don't have any experience of it but I'm sure someone will be along shortly.

hops glad you are feeling better. That sounded like a horrible experience.

I just had a really lovely appointment with a new GP. She was so understanding it made me want to cry with relief. She's prescribed avomine which is a new one for me if anyone's had any experience with it?

peaceliveandbiscuits if you have to go you have to go! Comfort yourself with the fact that they'll have seen it all before and worse!

Taxi driver stinks of aftershave, seat belt is too tight, I'm boiling hot, I can't afford a penalty for vomming

Just popping back from the other side...my dd is 6 months now but don't think I will ever forget the horror of hg. You will make it ladies!

magnum I started on avomine and it was ok when symptoms weren't too bad but once severely dehydrated it didn't help much.

peace hope scan goes well and you escape vom free

castle no idea how would have coped with gestational diabetes- think you will have to keep eating what you can and monitoring it

Hope everyone is managing to rest especially those with toddlers- so hard to balance!

Urgh peace hope you're ok

Hops you poor thing, glad you're feeling better. Mine was 7.8, the actual cut off! Yours sounds v v low.

Hi ickle thanks for calling in on us.

Magnum lovely to hear your go is kind, makes such a massive difference.

Just been for whooping cough jab, that was a stinger.

Sorry about the GTT/GD Castle. I wonder if some carbs are better than others (some may convert more slowly to sugar, but still be sufficiently bland/stodgy to be compatible with the HG)? Hopefully they'll have some good advice.

Got home and my 2yo had been sick all over his cot (he was with my mum) so I was sick cleaning up his sick, yay. Kids are so great, aren't they?

Ickle. How lovely you have come back and that you made it to the pink castle. Would you do it again ......

Peace. Trusty coop bag for me but yes they would have seen and heard it all before

I drank oj to make bubs turn as wasn't behaving on 20w scan and was very sick on t- so much that ended up throwing up blood but think was sore throat from retching etc

Find the next day

Df said all could hear me. I don't care !!

Hello

I had HG at the beginning of my pregnancy and ended up in hospital. I was fine from 16 weeks but it came back over Xmas.

I'm now 34 weeks and back on cyclizine but just don't feel I can cope anymore.

I'm vomiting all the time and when I'm not being sick I'm like zombie due to the medication.

Has anyone been induce a week or two early due to HG?

6 weeks (or even 8 if I go over due!) feels like an eternity when I feel so ill Its really getting me down.

Sorry for the moan.

Hello ickle!! Lovely to see you back. I remember when I was right at the bottom of the due dates list and you were near the top! Glad things are still good in pink castle.

Glad you made it home vom-free peace but sorry it didn't last.

So sorry your sickness is coming back to bite you at the end ShowMe - seems so unfair. Mine has been a bit worse the last couple of weeks but nowhere near the early days so still manageable. Could you go back to the GP and see if there is anything else they can give you just to get through the last few weeks? Are you (or your MW) checking your ketones to see if you need to be rehydrated? If you were in hospital for rehydration I would guess there would be a consultant you could speak to there to see if an early induction was a possibility: 4 weeks would feel so much more doable than 6 or 8 I'm sure!

Welcome to ShowMeTheWayHome and Sprite25.
ShowMeTheWayHome That sounds dismal. So sorry you feel so desperate. I reinforce LightTrippers urging - Can you get a quick GP appointment and see if they can add meds - as there are others they can try and those clearly aren't helping you much? It is very discouraging when it comes back in the third tri.
Sprite25 As you are the expert now, having survived one, I don't need to give my usual blurb about have you got the kesostix which can detect the early stages of dehydration (as the starvation sets in it seems they detect that instead; all very complicated). Do you find sips of flat coke or chocloate milk shake, ice lollies, or the juice of tinned fruit or the fruit itself any good, or cuppa soup? Pre-emptive meds seems a good idea.
Sadly, none of those helped Meowstro. Sorry to hear that you are in hospital with such high ketones.
peacelove Glad you got a low result, but sorry to hear of awful cot vomit episode. Cab experience sounded bad enough.
castlefeck Sorry to hear of unsatisfactory test result.
Melleebaca What a foolish father in law. Annoying.
MagnumAddict I am so glad that the GP was helpful. Sorry, where did you say you lived? I've only heard of someone else on Avomine, and I think she was in Eire.
Good advice as ever from the invaluable LightTripper
hopalong I am happy that the midwives were good and you had effective treatment. That norovirus vomiting sounded dreadful. Goodness, was that fifty to seventy heaves, in the counting manner of doctors? Surely not separate sessions?
Blondes and everyone - I hope relatively OK today.
I scrawled a message I can't read. Apologies to who that is for!

Ah yes, icklelid Lovely to hear from you and I am so glad you are enjoying the fabled Pink Castle...

lucinda I'm in Scotland. It was an older GP and she said that it used to be the go to but for some reason the go to at first is now generally Cyclizine. She said she had no reason to believe there was anything wrong in prescribing the avomine and that sometimes national prescription trends just change and that she had came across a few people where Cyclizine didn't work but the avomine did. Who knows I'm hoping she's right though and my afternoon of being sick is just because my body isn't used to them yet....

Showme - you can get induced early, but you will need to go through the system and show signs of mental stress. My stepmum got induced 2w early with her youngest because she was starting to show signs of psychosis, and the inducing allowed her to get the pnd meds faster.

Castlefeck - sorry to hear about the GTT test failure.

Waves to everyone else.

Hi all just checking in, thank you for the welcomes. Went to gp today as me and DD are poorly luckily just a viral thing, I mentioned the horrible nausea and he gave me cyclizine just like that. Made me feel so much better to know I don't have to suffer and has given me faith in my GP that they will help me if I'm bad. So far my survival diet consists of: watered down orange juice, watery instant noodles, plain jacket potatoes and plain crusty rolls with salted butter. The thought of anything else is just gross. If ANYONE even dares say the 'G' word to me I may flatten them.

The ways of vomiting, eh... Lucinda: it was definitely less than 50-70 separate sessions thank god (maybe 10-12), but more like 100-200 heaves, maybe? Each session seemed to comprise (feel traumatised to remember!) some mini episodes of 2-3 heaves in quick succession, then a little break as I futilely tried to wash mouth out, then another episode, for about ten mins, before 30-40 mins off... Once the diarrhoea started as well I lost count... To start with I thought it was 'just' normal pregnancy vomiting (and mine much less bad than many people's here; have been hesitant even to call it hyperemesis), but became rapidly clear that something else was going on.

So fed up of this pregnancy now. Have a lot of respect for those of you who go through a second pregnancy when you've had hyperemesis in the first one. I was far too blasé about what lay in store for me! Nearly in third trimester now and feel that the 'good' bit (last time I felt great in second trimester) never really materialised.

hello all. Well I have had my head in the kermit for most of the day. Seems that HG is back.

I saw a reference to the GTT up thread (sorry, didn't note the poster). I projectile vomited Lucozade on an ultrasound tech last time! Those "clean up in aisle 5" yellow signs were brought out and placed around me in a semicircle as I hurled into a cardboard bucket and a woman with no sense of personal space kept asking me when I was due. Fun.

Off for another boaking session - anyone want to hold my hair back?

Hope all well x

Err... Just seen a couple of references up thread to this potentially continuing AFTER birth??? Please please tell me I've misunderstood?? The only thing keeping me going is the thought that this is going to be over in 4.5 (6.5...) weeks??

Showme I completely and 100% understand. I'm desperately hoping she'll come early and terrified of going overdue. At one point I was on 3 different drugs at the same time, plus ranitidine (sp?) and that made it manageable. Definitely worth asking your GP for more than just cyclizine!

So sorry to everyone, it sounds like lots of us are having an awfully time at the moment. Hops; you poor thing...

Meow the emotional side is sometimes as bad as the physical isn't it. Take comfort in knowing you're not alone and this is the place to moan!

Sure they would induce if you let me and consultant know how much you are suffering

They induce diabetics at 38w and I'm likely to be 39w due to
High risk and not going over 40/40

MamaErmintrude I do try and play down the fact that it CAN happen, for the very reason that most women on here can hardly bear to hear of such a misfortune - but it does only happen to a very tiny number. Guess who had it, and who also a series of other unusual pregnancy misfortunes - Mother Hen. The trouble is that if I don't mention it, it's dreadful for anyone who is one of the unlucky few - most are OK within hours. It seems to be connected with breast feeding and hormones. Some have felt some nausea on giving up breastfeeding, but with most, as it was with me, it seems to be connected with chemicals in the letdown...OnceaMeer had it - a a form of controllable pregnancy sickness - until she gave up feeding. I had it for two weeks, quite severely, which was difficult with feeding, but then, I was lucky and I only had severe residual heartburn after week fifteen. Don't worry; the chances are, it won't happen to you. Nobody believed me in the hospital, but that was a long time ago. I'm sure they're more enlightened now.
sprite25 That sounds entirely horrific. My goodness, you must have felt terrible beyond belief.
rubyreins Sorry to hear it. If I was to hand, I would indeed hold your hair back- cyber pats on offer, anyway. Have you got meds? I have to laugh at your description of the 'clean up' notices keeping you in isolation .
hopsalong I am so sorry that the expected reprieve hasn't yet materialised.
MagnumAddict That is interesting. I know they use it abroad a lot, but not much here. Maybe it is an expense thing?
Mellebacca How are things?
Much sympathy to all. (Exit, flapping and clucking and chased by a fox).

Re: my post below:
MamaErmintrude That was badly put - I don't mean I had post birth Hyperemesis for fifteen weeks; I meant I had it for two weeks and only residual heartburn after week fifteen in pregancy!
ShowMeTheWayHome I do hope the GP can give you more effective meds and that you will soon feel less desperate. It may be that the consultant at hospital will be sympathetic to the idea of induction. Some women on here who have been really traumatised have found that.
Blondes Good advice. Some consultants seem quite keen on induction. The consultant insisted on inducing me as an 'elderly prima' who had had a fluid leakage. The junior doctors said it 'wasn't significant' but they couldn't argue against his decision.

Mama try not to panic too much, I think it is pretty rare. Last time I felt fine within a day or two (took a bit longer with my MMC - I guess because the hormones were at much higher levels to start with, but it was still gone within a week). My friend who had full on HG and was hospitalised multiple times for the whole duration of 3 pregnancies found hers lifted as soon as she gave birth each time.

Totally understand not wanting to go overdue. The one good thing about being an elderly pregnant lady is they won't let me go beyond 40 weeks this time, so if nothing happens before 3rd March I'm going in for induction that day! It's nice to have a firm deadline.