Posifrickentivity thread: pregnant after miscarriage. TODAY WE ARE PREGNANT.

[squizita]

Continuing our journeys through pregnant after past loss.

Hand holding and support for all.

TODAY WE ARE PREGNANT.

[Seasides]

Hi - I popped in a long time back, and have been following ever since. Congrats on the BFPs english and cake, lovely to see! So happy for you!

I'm sorry to dive in with a terror, but I'm crying with fear and really need a fish shower or some reassurance please. I had a successful 9.3ish scan on Sat, which was amazing. Then yesterday I did something totally out of character - I sprayed our back garden with Roundup weed killer. The stuff I have read since then is completely terrifying, do you think I can have done harm by spraying it for 20 mins? I wore waterproof gloves and stood downwind, but I could smell it every now and then. I feel so utterly stupid, I usually avoid chemicals anyway, and I HATE Roundup. I don't know why I did it. I just will never forgive myself if anything goes wrong now.

[Cakebaker35]

seasides hello! And please have a big fish slap from me! You will be fine, spraying outside in fresh air means very little of it will have entered your system and it would not have been granted a licence for use by the public if there were any major risks. Please please don't worry! If something were to go wrong down the line (which it won't ) then it won't be to do with this. Buckets of fish for you my dear x wonderful news about your scan x

engels great news on the scan too

As for potty training, my dd is 2.5 and totally uninterested. I'm not going to push it though as I have several friends who seem to have become quite obsessed about doing it the minute theirs reached 2 and they are having accidents all the time several months later. Would rather leave it later and get it over quickly she says hopefully but I'll probably start to worry about it if she's not interested by the time she's 3 - look at me finding other things to worry about! At least it's a distraction from the pg stuff!

[CorporeSarnie]

Seasides, glyphosate isn't all that toxic to humans en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate#Human - I know wiki isn't the best source, but having had a look over this information and some of the cited sources, I think you will be absolutely fine. It is toxic if you deliberately drink a decent amount the stuff, but the enzyme it inhibits in plants isn't one which humans have (hence the amino acids which are synthesised via this route are essential ones which we must obtain from dietary sources). My background is in science, and I work with chemicals on a routine basis, handling with gloves was the right thing to do but even that wasn't essential. You won't have inhaled enough to do you or the baby any harm, especially if you feel OK. Calm down and have a .

[Seasides]

Thank you cake - honestly, to dr google I might as well be asking 'smoked heroin in early pregnancy, harmful?' The most terrifying stuff about birth defects and miscarriage I called my midwife and she said stop reading about it, and it will be fine. I'm going to try and stop stressing, but that poison is going in the bin!

Sorry about my self-absorbed post - Great about your scan engels. And fedup, I know I'm one to talk and that you're going to worry to an extent about your anomaly scan, but you won't have done anything harmful, put those fears away! You have a 98% chance that everything is hunkydory, and whatever happens, it won't be your fault.

[OneLittleToddleTerror]

fedup totally sympathise about a disinterested toddler. You just can't make them do it isn't it? For example, I couldn't get DD to brush her teeth properly and I'm getting unhealthily obsessed about the weetabix stuck on her molar after breakfast. I just can't help but think she'll get rotten teeth from it. I wanted to take her to the dentist but I couldn't take more annual leave (I've been taking a lot for appointments and I'm still on probation. Don't want to be seen as uncommitted). I'm trying to hold out till I take maternity leave and take her then. It's only just over 2 months to go. I'm with cakebaker on potty training. There are plenty of over 3 in DD's preschool room still in nappies. I don't think it's a worry unless they'll be starting school this September. I've heard from teachers friends a problem with kids starting school so early in the UK is that some kids are just not ready developmental wise. They would be better to continue in a more nursery environment, where they can still have naps, have their nappies changed, regular mid morning and afternoon snack breaks, help with putting clothes and suncream on etc.

seasides calm down. I think corpore speaks a lot of sense here. Though I know how easy it is to panic. I felt that after I visited a farm with DD.

[HopefulHamster]

Hi all, thanks for the reassuring posts yesterday. I feel like I only come in here to panic! Had the scan this morning and pleased to say all is well. I couldn't quite believe it and cried quite a lot. Possible girl in there, but I'm not convinced as she couldn't get a good view. I have a DS but delighted either way. I sobbed all the way to work in the car (not driving!) as I'm not sure I know how not to panic.

fedup potty training is so hard. I think I did it when my son was 2.9 - it was Easter break so I had more days at home with him than I normally get and my DH was away on business. The first day there was wee and poo everywhere (including a massive log on the cream carpet). He got dry after that pretty quickly BUT then started just weeing in his pants again a couple of days later. It wasn't until I said to him 'we can't go to the soft play until you do this' that he realised I was serious. I'd read it was all about rewards and encouragement but once I knew he could do it it helped to get harder on him too. I do think with boys a lot depends on whether they're physically ready. My DS was dry at night straightaway which is quite unusual (maybe) but his nappies had been light at night for a while anyway. Remember this too shall pass!

[CorporeSarnie]

I've been at the lucky end of the spectrum with potty training; DD was interested in the potty/toilet before 2, and 'trained' in one (fairly dreadful, accident-filled) weekend after discussion with her nursery workers. She has on average one accident a week now, usually when tired. I did look at the (I know this is sacrilege around here) GF potty training book, it turned out I was doing most of what it suggested though. However she was showing all the signs of being ready (dry nappies, interested in the toilet, merrily went to potty if told, able to tell us when she had a dirty nappy, obvious signs when about to poo). I think this needs to be there before making life hard with training, as it does require more effort - the cry of 'do you want a wee?' remains quite constant in our house several months on.
Have you tried the dry like me pads, fedup? They're small and won't contain a 'full' wee, but if he's having small accidents they might help him to gain confidence and communicate with you when he needs to go.
We're just finding our way with lunchtime naps and no nappy at the moment - nursery aren't being entirely consistent with whether they put a nappy on or not, which we need to sort out as I need to try and do the same when she is with me.
In unrelated news, I think I felt a few flutters yesterday (was lying almost on my front), and have had my hand forced on telling people at work as a few issues have arisen with one of my reports having gone on sick with 'stress' claiming he thinks he'll be unsupported whilst I'm on ML and unable to complete his work. So f*cked off with him - if he knew even a quarter of what I'd been through in the last year, he'd realise what a spineless tosser he's being.

[Seasides]

That's outrageous corpore, what a useless prick! Exciting you've been feeling movement, it must be lovely to have a reassurance that all is well in there. I find it so hard to believe anything's in there at all half the time!

Amazing news hamster! What a wonderful relief for you.

Feeling sick now, so a bit reassured that all is fine. Trying to put it behind me, but I am so scared of being haunted by it if anything goes wrong. God, must do some work, haven't even attempted any yet.

[squizita]

seasides it would only be dangerous if you used it often or it went (lots) in your mouth. I'm sure many people have had a sniff of weedkiller walking past a garden on the street. It's farmers/gardeners who end up with issues.
Sadly on google there are a lot of women who have lost babies or had children with a defect and are clutching for closure (an easy 'it was this- avoid it and you'll never have problems again') ... and crazy theorists taking advantage of them (or they latch onto something). It is very sad really but so scary if you stumble across it the wrong time.

Hamster yay good scan! I cried driving past the hospital I had my last ERPC in today. Because I haven't been there for 10 months and cannot quite believe it! (Deliberately with another, bigger hospital- for facilities and because I needed a fresh place without fear).

[Seasides]

Thank you squiz, that really does make me feel better. That's what my rational brain is saying, but it's being bullied into silence by the doom bit and the googling.

I've cried in all my scans so far, I can't see that stopping any time soon! It's just SO amazing seeing something in there, particularly on Sat when it was waving its little feet around. The relief and the wonder are overwhelming.

[Cuppachaplz]

Morning all,

fedup, I swear potty training is an excuse for smug know-all types to make one feel bad. My DS had to be done at 2, because he simply would not keep a nappy on (he was cloth nappies though, which may have been part of it), however it was not an easy week, and he wasn't reliably dry at night until he was at least 5. From everything I had read at the time, I wanted to wait and make it easier for myself (and him), as I worked full time, and we had just moved house etc. etc. etc. However I guess the answer is that when they're ready, they are ready, and probably not before. I have friends whose DCs showed no interest until almost at school age.

seasides, I work with chemical nasties every day of my life. Unless you were drinking it, inhaling it neat, or bathing naked in the stuff you should be absolutely fine. As others have said, gloves, open air and the small amount pt on a domestic garden do not equate to a risk. TBH, most of us are expose to things like this in the air if we live in a town, as well as exhaust fumes etc.

So encouraging to read lots of positive news and about good scan results :) Congrats to all.

corpore, what a a**hole! Horride to have to tell people at work before you are ready isn't it? I had to go in for a meeting with my immediate boss yesterday, as emailing the sick note to HR would most likely have resulted in the whole building being told not only that I was pregnant, but that the sick note stated 'early pregnancy complications/threatened miscarriage', which could never have been good. Thankfully, she was lovely, and will keep things to herself. I hope that nasty man aside, you have supportive work colleagues.

So at this end, boredom with house arrest (what it feels like) is setting in. Old blood spotting continuing, hopefully a good sign. And a cording to EPU, intestinal bleeding is quite a common and normal sign of pregnancy (!? really), so they aren't worried about seeing me until next week. Thanks for the many reassuring words yesterday.

[Seasides]

Thanks chuppa, I was thinking it would be like walking past a field being sprayed, and there's not much we can do about that.

You've all been so reassuring, thank you - I'm adding myself to the stats, if that's ok, I've missed being an active thread member. Will try and keep up/not post self-involved posts!

tomkat - Lolly is so beautiful, congratulations! Hope you've had a magical first few days and you're not too sore.

MarthasHarbour: 1DS, 2MCs, EDD 7 May 2014
Polka: 0DC 1mmc 2mc EDD 9th May
Emki; 1 DD, 2MC, EDD 23rd May 2014
Penguinita: 0 DC, 1 MMC, EDD 27th May 2014
StarsInTheNightSky: 0DC, 2MC, 1MMC, ELCS 29 May 2014
Bakingtins: EDD 6th June
PGchimp: 0DC, 1 MC, EDD 9th June 2014
MeDoingMyThing: 2 DS, 1MC, EDD 14th June 2014
AliceBear: 1 DD 1MMC 1MC EDD 23 June 2014
Getagoldtoof: 1DC, 1MMC, 1MC EDD 2 July 2014
Louzul: 1MC, EDD 17 July 2014
Alb1 1mmc EDD 30th august
MrsGiraffe12: 1DC, 1MMC, EDD 7th September 2014
Squizita: 3MC, EDD 12 September 2014
OneLittleToddleTerror: 1DD, 1MC, 1 MMC, EDD 18th September 2014
Londonjen: 1MMC, EDD 8 October 2014
Wigwam33: 1MC, 1DS, 1MMC & 2MCs, EDD 9th October (or 29th Sep according to NHS)
Fedupofrainydays, 1ds, 2mc, EDD 10 Oct
CorporeSarnie: 1DD, 1MC, EDD 1st Nov
MabelMay: 2DS, 1MC, 1MMC EDD 6th November
Omama 1 DS, 1 MMC, EDD 5th December 2014
Gwlondon 1mc DS 1mmc EDD 5th Dec
BobaFetaCheese; 4 MC, 2DS, EDD 14 December 2014
Seasides: 1 EP, 0DC, EDD 15 Dec 2014
Amicablemoomin; 2MC, 0DS, EDD 21 December 2014
QuietTiger; 0DC, 1DD (Stillborn), 1MMC, 3MC, EDD 25th December 2014
CallingAllEngels 2MC, 1DS, EDD 28th December 2014
TeaRex: 1MMC, 1DD, EDD 7th January 2015
DitzyDonkey: 1MMC, 1DS, EDD 9th January 2015

Thread Babies:

Jessw25 Baby Oliver born 9 July 2013 5lb 11oz
BobaFetaCheese Baby Alexander born 30 July 2013 7lb 4oz
Andadietcoke twin girls born 29 August Charlotte 5lb 5oz & Sophie 7lb 13oz
Pentagon baby Elsie born 23 October 7lb 5oz
Bodicea baby James born 3 November 8lb
Ibelieveinpink baby Imogen born 14 November 7lb 4oz
BumpKitty baby Matilda born 18 Nov 8lb 2oz
Luckysocks13 baby Charlotte born 24 Nov 8lb
Jmf294 baby Alexander James born 25 Nov 7lb 4oz
Shellsocks baby Noah Stephen born 27 Nov 9lb 3.5oz
Gardenworm baby Wolfie born 1 December
Janielovesluckysocks baby Leo Thomas born 4 Dec 7lb 5oz
Bootyluscious baby Sofia born 17 December 6lb 2oz
ChocolateTeabag: baby Joss born 18 December 7lb 7oz
Blackholes: Baby girl born 23 December
WhatwillSantabring: Baby boy born 6 January 8lbs 7oz
pumpkinsweetie: Baby girl born 7 January 6lb 4 oz
Christinedaae - Baby girl Sawyer born 6th Feb 9lb11.5oz
MissMedusa: Baby Rhydian Thursday 27 Feb 1080g
TotalShock - Baby James born 25 February 8lb 1oz
Swangirl: Baby boy, 4 March
SaggyOldClothPussCat: Lucy Elanor 7 March 7lb
Pixielady83: Baby girl, 9 March
GuffSmuggler: Baby boy, 3 March
Fod: Baby Girl, 7 April, 10lb 3
TeaAndANatter: Baby Henry born 18 April 7lb 15oz
Kjh5: Baby Logan born 19 April 3.3kg
CbeebiesIsMyLife: Baby boy born 2 May
Tomkat: Baby Lolly born 16 May

[EnglishGirlsReturned]

Morning ladies!
Hi seasides - nice to have graduated but it's a whole different level of worry now.
Like others have said don't worry too much, I'm sure all will be absolutely fine!

Had a drs appointment this morning, having moved back from holland I wanted to make sure my mc was on my notes and also try to get a referral to epu for an early scan. Dr was very nice and I'm off for the scan on Thursday morning. Bricking it now!! I'll only be just about 6 weeks so know I may not see a heart beat. But fx!!

[Cakebaker35]

English glad to hear drs was good and that they've refered you for an early scan. Keeping everything crossed for you xx

I've booked an appt with my gp for a couple of weeks time. Pretty sure I won't be referred for an early scan but at least I'll be on the books. I'm really cacking myself about it all today, I feel utterly symptomless and just keep remembering that it would've been around this time I mmc'd last time so for all I know it could all be over already sorry for gloom! fish slap please.

[Penguin13]

Have written about 3 long posts over the last few days only for my phone to eat them when just tried to post. Fingers crossed this one will get through!

Congratulations and welcome to the thread English and Cakes. Fantastic to see you both here . There is no doubt that the first trimester can drag at times but you're definitely in the right place for some first class support and some fish slapping when needed! Glad you've got an early scan booked English.

Glad you got some reassurance re your bleeding Cuppa you really do learn something new every day as I'd never heard of that as a pg symptom!

[Penguin13]

Oops cross-??post Cakes. Just a very gentle swipe with a salmon for you. You may remember me worrying about this exact thing early on and it turned out just fine. I totally understand how you feel but today you are pregnant. Hugs and

[CorporeSarnie]

Thanks all for the sympathy re the work situ... I am actually really offended that this is happening - last time I was on ML I was always contactable via email and text message, and came in to help with DD during crises... I went above & beyond. But I think he's looking for an excuse for his poor track record and thinks he can scapegoat me (as 2 lots of ML in just over three years is entirely excessive, obvs, what a prize b*tch I am). As long as men have attitudes like this I don't think that we can win.
Glad to hear that Cuppa has had some welcome reassurance, anf that English got successfully booked in.
Cake, I remember the feeling of not wanting to make anything 'official'; the advantage is that once you're on the books you have a named contact if you're feeling unwell or whatever (MW), and a list of phone numbers on your notes. I entirely empathise with the fear though.

[QuietTiger]

Thanks for the new thread Squiz.

My news so far... yesterday I had another scan at the hospital, saw the consultant too, heart beat found and baby is at 8+2 which is exactly what I calculate from LMP date. :) Of course, both DH (big burly farmer) and I burst into tears, but the midwife sonographers were wonderful and very reassuring, handing DH lots of tissues. I think they were a little at a 6'2" well built bloke getting so emotional at a little flickering heart beat!

Today, I am pregnant, with sickness, cravings for pork pies and crisps, and tonic water.

[TeaRex]

Yay Quiet and MrQuiet :) brilliant news

[Penguin13]

Absolutely fantastic news Quiet. Scans are an emotional experience anyway but even more so considering everything you've been through.

[bakingtins]

Can't keep up with you lot! But very pleased to see good scan news from engels and QT congrats both!

[Cuppachaplz]

fab news quite :)

cake I had absolutely no pregnancy symptoms from start to finish in the pregnancy which resulted in DS (who was 11 last week); it's not a reason to worry, we are all different and each pregnancy is different. Hope you get the reassurance you need soon x

Hoping the scan goes week english

Today I am pregnant (and also fat and grumpy!)

[CorporeSarnie]

yay quiet the sonographer was surprised at my 6wk scan when I started crying, as I'd come in all gung ho, I ended up with a wodge of the (hard, crunchy) stuff they use to wipe the gel off you to dry my eyes .

[aMuminwaiting]

In need of fish slap. 8 weeks tomorrow and been feeling really crampy today like period is coming. I'm sure I had this with other pregnancies and normal stretching at this stage but so scared. I still can't pee with the light off at night.

[EnglishGirlsReturned]

Glad your scan went wellQuiet!!
Copore - this bloke sounds like a grade a twat! He needs a stern talking to! Men can be absolute arseholes sometimes. Clearly has very small testicles!
Penguin - how far along are you now?