Pregnant (IVF) Worriers/Warriors Part 4

[Buzzybee123]

Hi everyone,

This thread is for all you incessant worriers out there, not necessarily limited to IVF-ers, although I get the feeling the people who have had trouble TTC are more prone to worrying than others!

dildals it's like the upper classes wear ripped tweed... the working classes have sky TV and posh mobiles. Britain is weird!!

noks the day before Scarlett was unexpectedly born I was also soppy and nostalgic, so I have high hopes of a Christmas day baby for you having said that, I feel the same. bit sad I've not got to meet any of you yet except sweetie. sweetie assume things are manic your way? x

I can't believe your boss buzzy! hope you told her to f off

ooh, I tended to my yoni the other day. it had been a long time... pass the crown!

dildals - nokkie has it spot on with the class stuff. The kids don't appreciate any of it, the buyers put themselves in debt because of it and the general excess of it upsets me. My immediate family all exchange modestly priced gifts and the kids are all delighted and can actually remember who bought them what. Then we get the onslaught from the inlaws and it turns DD1 into superbrat.

nokkie I get DD1 to choose a gift she would like and one DD2 would like that we then wrap and add to the local church collection. Very worthy I know, but I think it might just eventually remind her how massively over privileged she is.

Sounds like you're gearing up for the Second Coming...

Awww noks, ditto what you said! Can't write anything elegant as have la leech (as we've christened her) attached, but it's been fab to get to know you all and your advice and support has been amazeballs. Big xmassy snogs to you all, your baybees and bumps xx and an extra big snog for crisps - I v much hope things are going ok

keep every time I open my legs I hear the faint sounds of 'Silent Night'. Does this mean I am about to give birth ? I do feel a bit loved-up right now (mainly with sugary foods) so Jesus Claus may be here sooner rather than later.....we shall see. I haven't had a 'show' yet though and the nipper is still furiously wriggling about.....

buzz my folks are coming over tomorrow with my little brother and my uncle. They have got loads of nice food from M&S to bung in the oven to make Christmas dinner easy. Where are you tomorrow ? Staggering about your boss - honestly, the insensitivity of some people is breathtaking.

onions I think that getting your dd's to give a present to the local church collection is great. They may not realise it now but I bet it is something that will register when they are older.

gingingin hello !

Aaaah, feeling a bit soppy and so happy for all of you lovely ladies who are having your first Christmas with your beautiful babies

crisps thinking of you all and Nancy and sending lots of love your way.

Come on noks , you need to
ave your baybee so he or she can have those lovely Christmas names. Can't wait to hear your news.

motor glad your appointment went so well yesterday.

keep that's lovely that the first worriers thread let's you relive your pregnancies. I had a little re read of the start earlier as I think it will really help me to see what you were all going through at this stage.

AFM, all good, saved the final digi until yesterday to get 3+, which was a big milestone after what happened last time. Was good to see. I have been suffering from all day nausea but no actual sickness to speak of. I did go to the gp yesterday who prescribed me something, but I haven't taken any yet as Don't want to unless I have to. She o prescribed some homeopathic tablets which I've sarted on so we'll see. Have the big hurdl of eating a fish pie tonight cooked by my sister ...

Very happy to have all these dilemmas though and am 6 weeks tomorrow. So grateful to be able to be on this thread.

Sorry for annoying typos, on phone and it keeps deleting letters!

I am wearing a paper yoni on my head ready to cheer Noks on!

chocciewoccie very glad your reading is still as it should be. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you.

dilly I DEMAND PICTURES OF THIS YONI YOU SPEAK OF

Merry Christmas girls!

Noks summed it up in her beautifully eloquent post (you big softie). It has been a year of up and downs but I'm happy to have been in your gang and I'm super grateful that I'm required to get up in the middle of the night to meet the needs of this screaming, pooing, feeding, weeing, amazing, beautiful, fascinating, gorgeous and totally adorable gift of a darling daughter. If I'd have known that I would be lucky enough to be sitting here in the dead of night kissing her utterly kissable sweet forehead and listening to her quiet snuffles I could have saved myself an awful lot of heartache.

I wish you all the happiest of Christmases with your beautiful babies, gorgeous bumps, positive digi sticks and warrior yonis either tended to (nice one Keep) or otherwise (I must get round to it now that I can actually get down there again).

Extra special love to Nancy, crisps, mr crisps, pearl and crispy dd1.

Special love and wishes to crisps praying that Nancy is making good progress.

Hello to nokkie - how's that womble of yours doing?

Congratulations on the digi reading choco, and miserable as it might be, your nausea is a great sign of a healthy pregnancy. So pleased for you.

at the paper yoni on dildals head!

Did Barry manage to get a Santa hat on your fur baby buzzy. Cats are so uncooperative!

Thank you to shaz gin and nokkie for the festive goodwill posts - they have all brought a tear to my eye. My mindset cannot shift from a desire to escape the in-laws which is decidedly un-grateful and lacking in Christmas spirit of me as they are all hospitable and generous. I just want to be with DH and my wriggly baby! Oh well, onto my own family tomorrow, which will have it's own stresses, but familiar ones at least. Sorry for the bah-humbug.

Merry Christmas to you all.

Congrats on the digi choco. Remember that nausea coming and going is quite normal!

motor let the inlaws wash over you. It will only get worse once the baby is born...

shazza, wouldn't life have been easier if we could only have known things would be ok? I hope you're getting lots of time to snuggle your lovely little girl.

I hope the family crisps are ok and that Nancy is improving.

noks I hope you're sneezing Jesus Claus out as I write.

To the rest of you all a big soppy hug and a kiss. It's been an absolute pleasure to share your highs and an honour to share your lows. You have been a marvellous source of support, advice and companionship as well as making me piss myself laughing (although with my pelvic floor that's not hard.) Anyway, I'll raise a glass (of lactulose) to us, our babies and bumps and wish us all a very Happy Christmas!

Hello ladies

I hope you have all had a marvellous day with your nearest and dearest and to those enduring the in-laws, well done its nearly over for another year

We had a lovely day. Shazlett had a couple of sweet pressies and I got a kitchen aid . I'm very happy about that!

I'm going to bed now. Rock n roll. DP is shhhhing the baby downstairs but I need a nap after a broken night. Fingers crossed tonight is better. Fair doos, she slept through all the present opening and lunch. I actually got to eat my dinner with both hands while my beautiful baby girl slept soundly in the Moses basket. Sister in jaws didn't. She had to deal with a crying DN2 and eat one handed (miaow!!)

Do I hear the sound of baby Jesus Claus?........

ANY NEWS?

Very jealous of the Kitchen Aid. I got some slippers (that I bought myself).

We had a very disturbed night because of Ringlet's built in breathalyzer. She seems to know when I've indulged in more than the legal limit of wine and thus get up at 4am. I'm not bothering having more than a glass any more. It's just not worth it!

Oh dear Onion. I was very tempted to have my first glass in well over a year but I decided against it. Mainly when I got a disapproving glance from DP!

The kitchen aid was from my parents to both of us. I've coveted one for so long.

We had a better night. Calmed shazlett by swaddling then she slept for ages.

How was everyone's Xmas day?

I forgot my lactulose yesterday. School girl error. Christmas food + iron supp+ no lactulose = Boxing Day tummy ache

I too am well jel of the kitchen aid shazz! I have long lusted after one. Ginster and shazzlet appear to have matching schedules - she too was up most of Xmas eve but slept much better last night!

onion ha ha at ringlet's breathiliser. Everyone apart from me was boozing last night and our lounge smelt like a brewery! Swear ginster must have been drunk on fumes alone. I had a tiny glass of champers and enviously watched everyone else.

motor hope you managed to escape the ILs!

choc hurrah for the 3+ digi. I remember it felt a big step when I got one of those . Do you have a scan soon? I took some anti sickness meds. Felt a bit guilty but they were the only way I could get through the day!

noks er , any glad tidings?!

buzz did Barry get the hat on the cat?!

crisps I really hope Nancy is doing ok. Lots of love to you and your family.

Well those of you on the FB group will have seen my trials and tribulations re feeding and weigh ins. Basically my milk didn't come in for a while, most likely caused by the traumatic labour, and we have been having to use formula to top up. Ginster had lost a little more weight by the day 7 weigh in and readmission to hospital was mentioned and I was told to express and top up further. I have found it pretty much impossible to express - today's MW thinks the baby isn't stimulating my supply enough, so we have to use more formula. Luckily her weight is great and just 60g below birth weight at today's day 10 weigh in. But it's looking like she'll have to be formula fed. I know the most important thing is that she's healthy, but I'm fairly upset by it, having tried so hard to bf, and feel guilty. Had a little cry on the MW about it. Poor DH just doesn't get why I'm so upset and keeps pointing out that we were both formula fed and are ok (ish)!

Anyway, hope you all had lovely xmases. Ours was fab and I even stayed awake for Downton! And I got a rather nice Tiffany jewel as a Xmas/push pressie combo :) Although my favourite pressie (that made me weep - does the crying ever stop?!) were some beautiful framed pics of ginster from her grandparents.

No, the crying never stops Gin. I'm still crying at the drop of a hat, first day at school, first nativity play. It's just goes on and on. That's great that despite your supply problems she's nearly back to birthweight. I know the terrible guilt around bottle feeding, but It is feeding your baby that matters, try and let the guilt go. Ringlet's weight has improved now she's on formula and I wish I'd swapped over earlier, as I could have avoided a lot of worry about her weight and stress over the length of her feeds. You soon get the hang of sterilizing and it is brilliant that DH can do feeds too.

Well jel of your jewel. I am reminded once more that I have never been bought a present by DH for producing a baby. Hmm.

Ha at the booze fumes. I didn't bother having a drink last night, came to bed at 8 with Ringlet and we both slept until 5.30am. Then she got up with DH and I had yet more sleep until now, I'm drinking tea and she's back in with me as she's fast asleep again. Absolutely blissful, I'm actually achey from being in bed for so long.

It's scarily stormy here now though. My new year resolution is to get a couple of trees cut down.

Hope you're all ok anyway. Noks?...

Oh Gin try not to worry or feel guilty. Most important thing is that the Ginster is healthy and ok. And she is gaining weight which is great! I understand you are disappointed but you will care for her just the same and she will grow up happy and strong. As DH said, we are all bottle fed babies of the 70s and we are fine

Jealous of the Tiffany box let alone the contents. I swear the boxes are so pretty I'd be happy to receive an empty one. I didn't get an Xmas pressie from DP let alone a push pressie.

I also cry at the drop of a hat. As onion said that's part of the course. The pics from the grandparents sound lovely. I made DP a year book of photos from the year and I cried when he opened it let alone him!

Onion nice one on the extended lie in. Hope you've got some cream for the bed sores

Well today my little girl is going up a nappy size. I'm very sad. But we've been having too many up the back leaks. It's time to face up to her not being a size one anymore.

It's also raining here. Have a good day all.

Noks........?????

choco yaay to positive digi stick (and now step away from them!!!) I'm sorry you are sick, though in this topsy turvy world it is also reassuring to feel symptoms, but as onion says, they can come and go so just - as everyone says - take one day at a time. When is your scan again?

motor I have also just wanted to huddle at home this Christmas with husband and bump and have been more than usually grumpy about having to be festive and sociable with family - perhaps it is a pregnancy/nesting thing?

crisps how is Nancy? and the rest of you? Thinking of you all.

noks I'm not going to ask the question but...????????

buzzy did Barry survive? Anyone trying that with our cat would suffer consequences.

shazz I hear you on the in-law present deluge. We came away from the in-laws loaded down with boxes of stuff for a baby who hasn't been born yet. It is lovely that they are so happy and excited about becoming grandparents (though they are step-grandparents already) and I also don't want to be ungrateful, but I find the generosity rather overwhelming. I already fear that future years will bring the super-brat inducing present onslaught onion describes! My family are much more restrained and parents have been very good about asking "what do you need, what would you like us to do?" rather than rushing in. As well as different family traditions, I think it is, sadly, also a factor that my parents have a very direct understanding of our caution until the baby is safely here, as I am an only child after recurrent miscarriages. Oh well, I guess we take our families, and our partners' families, as they are and love 'em anyway.

gin that's great news about the ginster's weight despite your feeding problems, and (speaking as yet another bottle-fed 70s baby) I hope you listen to onions and shazz's advice and make it your new year's resolution to ditch any guilt about formula feeding.

It has felt a strange Christmas, looking back to where we were last Christmas and all that has happened during the past 12 months. I took my mum - who was visiting for Christmas - to midnight communion, as I had this time last year, and sitting there in the stillness listening to the sound of the organ soaring up into the cathedral roof, had my Christmas teary moment and sat there silently sobbing buckets. Thank goodness for dim and atmospherically-candle-lit old buildings, that hopefully not too many people noticed the sobby emotional disintegration :-)

Happy christmas to all, and the babies.

Just checking in as I do regularly, hoping for news from crisps and nokkie. Praying all is going in the right direction with Nancy, and that Nokkolita has made a safe entrance into the world.

ceara it was interesting to hear your reflections on where you were last Christmas. I remembered today that last Christmas I had a difficult conversation informing my parents that we had been told we had next to zero chance of conceiving naturally, and very low odds with IVF, so we were unlikely to pursue IVF and would be giving up on the idea of having a family. Everyone was supportive but palpably disappointed. That was before an appt with an NHS consultant who suggested donor egg IVF, which had never crossed our minds. One year later, and here I am 6 months pregnant. Amazing. I feel so lucky, and anxious for this little one to stay safe and be born healthy and strong.

I am over-emotional and tired at the moment, sleeping very poorly and looking forward to returning home and to my own bed. 7 weeks left at work once I return in the New Year, and short weeks at that, as I am going to take an annual leave day per week just to manage my tiredness.

Love and best wishes to all, and the babies. X

motor taking a days AL a week is a very good idea, you'll really appreciate it as time goes on. You'll also be very happy to get back to you're own bed and I'm sure you'll sleep better then, even if it's just because you're exhausted.

ceara I am a committed atheist but have to go to our village church every so often as the schools are all religious up here so you kind of have to go along to support your child when there are school related services. Even so, I still find the atmosphere peaceful and the ritual quite comforting. It definitely prompts reflection at this time of year and I'm about a million times happier now that I was a year ago.

My parents had years of infertility and miscarriage before they somewhat amazingly had three kids so they have been very understanding and sympathetic to us. I have very little time for my inlaws though luckily neither has DH.

Love to crisps, I hope things are improving.

And I assume noks is either recovering with a can of Red Stripe, or busy receiving gifts from the three wise men. Or both?

Pah -I am STILL waiting. Due date is today and no sign of the nipper. I am absolutely fine though and feeling great, if a little tubby. My Afrocentric womble and I are seeing the midwife on Monday so I should have a bit more of an idea about what's going on. Well. Sort of. I purchased some raspberry leaf tea today so will have a bit of that so see if I can shift ole wriggly lazy bones in there

How are we all ? Apart from being all reflective and emoshunal ? Come on Warriors.....cheer-up !

I hope crisps is ok. Still thinking of you if you're lurking pet. Xx

Morning all

Ceara and Motor your reflections on last year brought back memories for me. Im so happy that you are both in different places now with beautiful bouncing babes on the way.

Nikkity Noks c'mon nipper! Glad you are feeling ok. I predict the NR willbe here 41+2. Any bets anyone? Just think within 2 weeks you will have a baby. At this stage in the game I simply couldn't get my head around that. Especially as you don't know the flavour it is impossible to imagine what him or her will look like. The first few moments are amazing. I envy you that to look forward to.

I don't know your birth preferences but just to say that I was extremely worried about having a sweep. I put it off for days and googled it endlessly. Obviously everyone is different but when I finally had it I didn't feel a thing and wished I'd done it days before. I'd have saved myself a good few days of contractions that didn't go anywhere.

Crisps what news of our Nancy? Thinking of you.

Huge post Christmas hello to everyone else. This 'twixt and 'tween Xmas and new year time is always abit weird I find.

Afm I didn't have a good day yesterday. Shazlett's poo has been an alarming bright green for 36 hours now. Just out of the blue her nice textbook mustard nAppies turned dark green. I called my mum's GP and he said if she is showing no other symptoms then it's fine and don't worry. Clearly he hasn't read this thread! Anyway other than the poo she seems fine.

Dr google suggests that this change is caused by a fore/hind milk imbalance. She is getting too much sugary fore milk by comjng off one breast and demanding to swap breasts and missing out on the fatty hind milk. She can't digest all the excess sugar resulting in cramping and diarrhoea. The suggestion was that adjusting my BFing technique should right the problem. I called the Nct helpline and they said that this theory is out of date and basically if there are no other symptoms she is fine. They said that possibly she is overstimulated by lots of xmas activity and being handled by different people and it has affected her tummy. I don't believe that the 15 explosive green poos that we had yesterday are completely fine and naturally am worried. I'm making sure to feed her thoroughly on one breast and I'll see how she is tomorrow.

I was very upset yesterday though. We were supposed to be travelling north but I didn't want to go if shazlett is ill. DP said that there are dr's up north but I want to be with my mum if she is ill. I think that is fair enough. He said that there are 3 people in this family and was abit cross at first but in the end understood my reasons and is fine about staying here. This was after many tears from me though so I feel rough now. I have slept but my eyes are puffy from crying.

Shazlett has had her feed and is now sleeping on me. Everytime I put her down she wakes and so is very restless. Yesterday I sat with her for 4 hours while I soothed her and finally she napped. I love that she needs me but I'm so tired. DP tells me this is minor but it is heart breaking when you think that they are ill. Goodness knows what dildals and crisps went/are going through.

Those on Fb have been kind enough to share their thoughts on the green poo. I thought I'd ask the sage Onion if she had any tips? Onion, have Dd1 or ringlet ever had explosive green poos? Any advice is welcome.

I'm going to try to put her down again. So will sign off for now.

shazza I remember DS had a couple of days where his poo turned bright green but he was fine. Also sometimes Pangolina poos several times a day, sometimes not at all. I think the NCT advice is probably right and you shouldn't worry. If she had a fever or was refusing to feed or was unusually sleepy that would be different.

Lovely Christmas messages from all of you!

Hi folks...quick update as still mad here. Still in icu, N has now developed pneumonia and another so far unidentified illness. She is,very very poorly. She is now on a new oscillating ventilator and all sorts of treayments. Most worryingky, theu hv now run.out of things to give her...her lungs are now soo poorly that,they are struggling to get oxygen in from the life support, and if she gets worse there is not a lot more they can do. If she does get worse, they will need to tru a heart and lung bypass, but she is probably too small for it to be easy to do, and there are only 3 places in thr uk. She has,bn at the point of needing this thred times so far including today, but previously has recovered just enough to escape it. a part of me now wants it to just happen as sitting in icu hasnt.fixed ger so far and she just keeps pking other things up. Bizarrely we ar actually doing ok here. we are setup living in the flat

S