for mums 2be moving on...part TWO

[Marina]

Wills, so pleased the baby is the right way up. I don't know much about pre-eclampsia but understood it is always a risk if you had it in your first pregnancy. Very much hoping Mears or Leese is around to enlighten you professionally. Let us know how you are doing, and let's all send the vibe equivalent of raspberry leaf tea in the direction of the Peak District this weekend!

Oh Hilary - its nothing amazing. I just really don't want to go back to see this Dr on Wednesday and now suddenly I only have 2 days to go before I have to see him again. On the one hand I am perfectly happy for this little one to stay put as long as it wants to and am happy to lie back on the sofa and savour the wriggles. But fear of being packed of to hospital makes me willing to try anything. So this morning it was a bit of "jug therapy" from DH, a boot fair, another mile and a half walk. Only this time it started to rain so I sheltered under the bridge but of course that meant it took longer. DH decided something had happened so came looking for me in the landrover. I was really cross as I was determined to walk so refused to get in so he followed me home. Must have looked hilarious - Kids hanging out of the windows, dog trying to jump in the back and me stalking along in front. Still nothing happened though. Only result was that I ended up so knackered I went to bed in the afternoon. Now I can't sleep. Grrrr.....

Well felt really wet all night and had a bit of clear mucous on the paper every time I went to the loo. Had what they called a "watery show" with DS night before. This morning I'm had 2 bouts of diahrreoa so am feeling very hopeful for today. But then of course I've been here before haven't I!

Just had a lovely bath with geranium, ylang ylang and Clary - all the balancing ones! Feel v. tense though. Begged DH to stay at home but he's got a meeting tomorrow although he promised to get home early. Huh!

Oh well better go for another walk then and see if anything does decide to happen......please please please

Still nothing. Feel like crying. Think I might give my MW a ring. Just don't want to see that Dr again on Wednesday. Only 2 days now till DS's birthday too.

Katherine, I'm so sorry, hang in there. In terms of the doctor stick to your guns they can't force you! If your midwife is backing you then I think you're fine. I've found so far that doctors generally are postively petrified of home births and up until I discovered my consultant I would also have said they were induction happy as well iykwim. I know its easy for me to say whilst sitting here but I made my decisions based on people that I had to learn to trust. You don't sound convinced by your doctor so don't be swayed, failing that insist on getting a second opinion - although for this I would opt for a different consultant not just another registrar. Good luck - and my thoughts are with you egging little one on.

As for me my bp readings are well and truely on the way down and I'm now regularly getting readings under 90 - so much so that I went and got the bp machine that we bought at the weekend calibrated with the mw's. They were the same so I'm happy. Still have the occassional out of the blue high but on the whole doing well. The effects of the methyldopa are also starting to lessen and my dh has turned into superman so all in all I'm managing to settle back and simply enjoy myself. 12 days to go but I know that little one will be late so suspect its really 26!

Marina - missing you and hoping that all is well.

Ghosty/Hilary/Pie - best wishes

Katherine ... hang in there .... have no advice to give but just stick to your guns ... if the baby is wriggling and has a good heartbeat then surely they can't force you to go in early or anything can they? Thinking of you xxxxxxx
Wills ... loved the story on the other thread about you FIL humming "Why are we waiting" ... I cracked up ...
My DH dropped a good one at the weekend ... he suggested that his mother comes to stay when the baby comes like mine did when DS was born .... Well ... all I can say is 'Over my dead body!' ... I get on really well with my MIL (not my dodgy step MIL though) but she is not MY MUM ... and I just would be a wreck if she was here in those early days ... I would feel on edge about everything ... Nope ... it just doesn't bear thinking about ... But how to put that to DH and MIL (who loves the idea) without offending? Hmmmmm .... something for me to think about over the next few months!
So glad that you BP is coming down Wills .... good on you ....
STILL feeling sick (coming up to 16 weeks now) ... hate it ... and am also at that awful in between stage where you don't see anyone very much (M/W etc) and I can't feel the baby move yet so sometimes I get a little worrying niggle of 'What if?' which stops me sleeping ... Tossed and turned until 1am last night and DS woke up at 4.50 and refused to go back to sleep ... so I am knackered today and very very grumpy .... grrrrrrr.
Mind you my Midwife is coming this morning for my first official appointment .... I really hope she has a thingy to listen to the heartbeat ... feel the need for a bit of reassurance ...
Anyhoo ... won't ramble on anymore ...
Hillary ... how are you? Are you getting close to 12 weeks yet? How are you feeling?
Pie ... how are your bits??

Oh Katherine, I was really hoping for you when mumsnet was down today - wondering if you'd go into labour then...fingers still crossed for tomorrow for you, or tonight. Ghosty, I didn't feel any movement for AGES this time, 20 weeks (ish? forgotten already!) or something and I panicked too (even though I haven't had a miscarriage) so ikwym but just wanted to say it isn't unusual. Will think on your IL dilemma and post if I think of any brilliant excuses!

Thanks WWW
M/W has just gone and she is lovely ... not least for the fact that she will do ALL my appointments at my home ... hurrah! Filled in all the relevant forms for booking in (does that happen as late as 15 weeks in the UK too? ... can't remember) and she had an ultrasound with her. She warned me that we might not hear it this time but when she did it we heard the baby's heartbeat almost immediately ... Felt that the baby was saying 'OK Mummy ... I'm here, you can stop worrying now!!' ... oh, I know, bit soppy of me but blame it on hormones ...
So I am a happy bunny today ... Anatomy scan to look forward to in 3 weeks now ...
Katherine ... why don't you book a special night out with DH in a few days time ... posh restaurant etc ... will give you something to look forward to and I bet you won't be able to make it

Katherine, Ghosty's idea is a good one and if it doesn't work you get a romantic evening to boot!

HI Guys. Thanks for the support. DSs birthday on Thursday so planning a trip to Chatsworth Farm so same idea but without the romance Mind you of course it depends on what Dr says tomorrow. I am adamant that I don't want to go in unless there is a problem with the baby but it is so hard to argue with these people because they make you feel like you are putting your baby at risk. I will try to stand firm though and DH has even agreed to come with me if I want him to. I just feel so sad as I was so happy and positive about everything until all this happened. Now I'm getting myself in such a state about it all.

I'm now waiting for my own MW to phone me. I'm hoping to see her today if possible so she can check me over (forwarned is forarmed) and see if she can be at the clinic tomorrow. I'm also seriously tempted to ask her for a sweep. Although I'd rather let things happen by themselves if I've got to choose between my MW having a poke to get things going or being packed of to hospital and hooked to machines for the duration I know which I prefer. If nothing else it will be good to have a chat about what she thinks anyway.

Ghosty I am sorry you are still feeling sick but maybe now you have heard the HB it will start to subside. The mind is a funny thing! I bet the heat isn't helping though (doh! Just remembered you are in NZ) Its fabulous news about your appt and your MW sonds great. I'm so pleased for you.

Wills great news about your BP. If it keeps coming down does that mean they would reconsider a HB or are you happy with the set up now? I'm so pleased you are feeling better anyway - that is half the battle.

Oh I wish my MW would phone. I feel like I'm in limbo at the moment.....

Just spoken to the MW and she was very reassuring about the Dr. Said he was more worried about a long labour and the fact that the baby would be more likley to go into distress more quickly but she didn't feel he was about to insist I have an induction or anything. She and the other MW are both hopeful given my history that the labour will be quick anyway and in that case it is far safer for me to stay put at home and risk giving birth en-route.

I asked about a sweep to get things going and she was reluctant to do it herself as she said she is too gentle and her fingers aren't long enough! But that I should ask the Dr tomorrow. Yuk! Would much rather it was her but will think about it and see what he says. I suppose if he is happy for me to be at home then there is less rush anyway.

So it looks like I'm going to have to face him anyway but hopefully he won't be as negative as last time. Maybe I over-reacted. I've certainly got myself wound up about the whole thing.

So still not happy but at least I know the MWs believe it is best for me to be at home.

I do hope things work out the way you'd like them to, Katherine. Thinking of you.

I am fine, only 2 days short of 12 weeks now so I am starting to believe there may be a baby with us in 2004. Still a bit sicky but not as bad as it was a couple of weeks ago.

At that funny stage where I need to undo my trousers all the time for comfort but don't really need maternity clothes yet. Just look a bit podgy.

Hilary ... glad that things are looking positive! Have you got a 12 week scan booked? When is it?

HI Hilary. Treat yourself to some nice materinity clothes anyway or some elastic skirts - you'll be needing them soon Glad to hear things are going well for you.

Feeling v. menstrual this morning but know better than to get hopeful now. Off to buy DS's birthday cake instead...... and trying not to think about this afternoon

I had a scan last week and all was well. For some reason I had it at 11 weeks. Reassuring though, isn't it?

I think I'm going to pop out today and get some clothes I can do up. We're doing a youth camp next week so I can't be wondering round with my jeans undone all week like I do at home!

Having said the sickness is wearing off, I've spent all morning being sick. It was so bad I wondered if it was a bug but I seem to be a bit better now and have eaten some lunch.

When is ds's birthday, Katherine? - you will have 2 birthdays very close together.

Hi Katherine - hope all is going well this afternoon. At least it is cooling down now! Hoping to see a birth announcement soon - but I know what the waiting is like! With any luck you'll get a sympathetic doctor this pm. Anyway, I'm thinking of you at the moment!

Different Dr. What a difference! Dismissed the scan as being unreliable "Its just an average and your baby just comes below the line thats all. Nothing to worry about as long as everything is working". Didn't even want to examine me. "We need people like you to improve our normal statistics. Don't want to see you again. Good luck!" What a lovely man. Just makes me so angry that I've been in such a state all week all because of one Dr and another can be so different. I feel so different. On top of the world again. Just looked in my notes and he said "No reason not to deliver at home". MW also really chuffed and has sent me home armed with entonox, oxygen and suction kit, just in case she doesn't get here or its a bit rushed so its all ready. Wopeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

He sounds brilliant Katherine. Good luck and enjoy what little time you have left of your pregnancy. Wish they were all like him

CONGRATULATIONS
Oh i'm soooo pleased Katherine - know how much you have been dreding today incase you got the horrible doctor again.

SO glad you can have your home birth - just hope everything gets a move on now........I'm getting so impatient - Can't wait for the birth announcement!!!!!

Katherine, you sound so different, that's wonderful news. Here's hoping you've not got a long wait now...

Katherine - that's fabulous news! Looking forward to hearing about the homebirth in and around the plasterer !

Hilary - Definitely think some "big" clothes are called for here although I still remember being so nervous that I flatly refused to look at maternity at this point! Mind you during summer at least big floaty dresses are more fashionable and they will expand with you for a couple more weeks. Do you feel up to hitting the sales? I always justified these clothes on the basis that I could wear them on the way down iyswim.

Ghosty - Still sick. About the only good thing I can possibly think of to say about that is that it might be reassuring until bumb starts to move. I know what you mean about being your mum. Whilst I care about my mil it would be horrendous. She does try really hard but never quite crosses the boundary whereby she sorts herself out so I would end up looking after her as well as baby! Glad baby gave you a reassuring heart beat - I love the idea of it saying "I'm ok mummy".

WWW - Hows the homebirth plan coming along? Have you bought a pool yet?

I'm off to Asda tonight to see what George has got in the way of maternity/generally loose-fitting clothes. It is my only choice as I am not up to dragging both kids round with me while I look clothes and now they are in bed, only Asda is open. Still, do need something, ds2 hugged my leg today and my undone trousers fell down - can't have that happening out and about!

Hilary - Have you looked at Argos? They do some reasonably priced maternity stuff, and you can order it online and they will deliver it to you....

Also Dorothy Perkins are online now - wish I'd discovered that and Argos Additions a lot earlier !

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Katherine .... Wahay!!! Great news ...
Hilary ... I am rotating two pairs of 'niceish' trousers (one with elasticated waist and one sort of stretchy hipsters that sit under the tubby waist line) and at home I am getting by with tracky bums. I so want to go maternity shopping but at the moment NZ has only got winter stuff in and that would be a waste as in about 6 weeks it will be spring and it will be warm again. Apparently they get their summer stuff in September ... can't wait! Not looking forward to exposing my arms though!!