for mums 2be moving on...part TWO

[Marina]

Wills, so pleased the baby is the right way up. I don't know much about pre-eclampsia but understood it is always a risk if you had it in your first pregnancy. Very much hoping Mears or Leese is around to enlighten you professionally. Let us know how you are doing, and let's all send the vibe equivalent of raspberry leaf tea in the direction of the Peak District this weekend!

Wills that is excellent news. Although it is sad you won't be able to stay at home the fact that you are able to choose who delivers you if a major plus. I'm so pleased for you and so pleased because you are happy too. It must also be a big boost to know that the "boss" in charge of you seems to share your ideals and concerns too. Must be such a weight off your mind.

DH is now in his way home and planning to make me a hot chilli to get things moving. I keep telling him there are other ways.......

Oh that's good news Wills. Katherine, the thought of you begging your DH for sex is making me laugh. Have you reminded him you may not feel like it for a while after this one comes along, i.e it may be his last chance etc?

Wills, your consultant sounds an imaginative sort of guy - what he is proposing could be a good compromise if they finally veto the home birth. Keep us posted on how your bp pans out...and hope the scan brings good news.
Katherine, so glad your mum is OK and sympathise with the elderly p dilemma. Mine are very fit for their ages but are 78 and 73 and the sudden fall scenario is always at the back of one's mind, isn't it. Do hope she is fully recovered soon and your dh comes up with the goods as well! Maybe he needs it in writing that he is on the threshold for the last chance saloon...
Pratt's leaving ER but Noah Wyle (Carter) is signed up for the foreseeable future. And as he is a med student maybe Gallant is also off?
Like Wills, I had a long but helpful visit to the hospital this afternoon. I saw a truly kind and professional midwife who was aware of my previous form and had clearly taken the trouble to read ALL my notes (I've seen her around but never had a consultation with her until today). She answered all my questions very helpfully, reassured me that the eccentric-sounding surgeon I am booked in with is really very good and experienced, and also told me that the underlying main clinical reason for suggesting a second elective is that with a free head and a lot of fluid there is an increased risk of cord prolapse if I go into labour spontaneously. Something both the doctors I've seen did not mention, although I think my consultant may have glossed over it to avoid panicking me. Even the (different) SHO called in to sort my consent forms out was able to explain a couple of things so much better than the tactless hussy I saw on Tuesday.
I will also get to meet the surgeon and the anaesthetist before surgery, thank goodness.
So I am feeling an awful lot better about it than I was - just the sense that your anxieties are acknowledged makes them easier to cope with. And, after two sleepless nights I am back to looking forward to meeting my baby quite soon . I lost the plot on this front earlier this week to be honest and was really stressing about it.
Thanks again all for the kind messages, they are hugely appreciated.

Wills- can you enlighten me ? why is it risky???? I don't know your consultant but I have seen consultants on several occasions sweet talk women in doing what THEY felt happiest with by telling them what they wanted to hear (showing empathy and concern) and then doing what they wanted anyway... maybe he is not like that.
I am no BP expert but your BP doesn't sound that high to me... Mears am I wrong ?

And the scan and size - well I won't go there again - but I do not believe in them anymore.... I have seen too many error/scaring women.... inclduing 1 small for date women who was under pressure to have a section at 35 and 36 weeks. Mum fought the consultant... Baby born on EDD : 6lbs 10oz !!

When the diastolic blood pressure (bottom number) is over 100, that it is high and in need of medication. Having no protein is good so therefore the high blood pressure is probably essential hypertension. The problem is that you can get that developing into pre-eclampsia so you do need to keep a watchful eye on it. If protein starts appearing then blood tests are needed to rule out pre-eclamsia developing ( this is known as pre-eclampsia superimposed on hypertension). To be honest I think that you have got a good compomise there Wills. If you have an actively managed third stage you should not be given syntometrine because the ergometrine component can make your BP rise further. You should have syntocinon only (don't know if that has been discussed with you Wills).

Marina - glad you feel a bit more reassured. A high free head at term is not conducive to a successful vaginal delivery is a previous C/S. Sometimes effective communication is all that is needed. I am looking forward to the birth stories pending on this thread

Thanks Mears - most useful

HI all, I've had a bleed last night. VVVV worried. Was very small amount and brown but I have very mild twinges where it implanted. It has always been tender there since the last m/c so don't know if it is settling in further or m/carrying again. Going to Doc's at 10.40 but might be too early for a scan. 6 weeks. Any advice much appreciated.

Quackers, I'm so sorry. Brown blood and only a small amount is not necessarily bad news but its always incredibly worrying. I had quite a few bleeds especially between 4 and 8 weeks, some brown and some red. Everytime I was told that the amount was not significant and not to worry, but that's an awful lot easier said then done. Everything twinged as well. I felt paranoid about every single twinge so I can understand your feelings. The worst ones were like stiches - is this similar to your twinges. Eventually I established (through mumsnet) that actually these were simply the uterus expanding as it should and everything else getting out of the way. For my mc I had no pain, but tonnes and tonnes of red blood - like straight into a very heavy period. Glad to hear you're seeing the doctors at 10.40.

Thanks Wills that's reassuring. I bled with my first - she was ok but that was when my P was due. The twinges are at the top of my uterus, not stiches, like very ,ild cramps and have been there sinc I conceived and I put it down to my womb being tender. Just read it could be the placenta embedding as it does about this time. Doc at 9.40, so will let you know.
Thanks again Wills, hope u ok xxx

Quackers - repied on your other thread. Hugs.

Marina & Wills: We've all got our own ideas about how we want the birth to be but at the end of the day the important thing is to feel good about it. I'll be really sad that you don't get your HB but as long as you and babies are safe - thats the crucial thing. Whilst births are often spoilt by horrible things happening or feeling like its out of your control I think if you can get your head round what is lined up then that if half the problem gone. It might not be the best - but it can still be great. Easy for me to say you all shout...

Anyway really thought things were going to happen last night (say this every morning) but had really really strong painful BH and was starting to think maybe...... DH cooked me a hot chilli and then obviously decided to "lay down his jug" so to speak! Trouble was I was really uncomfy but didn't dare say no after all my nagging, especially as I hoped it might do the trick. Opposite happened - everything went really quiet. Bummer! Still it was good fun trying

Katherine, glad you got your sh*g

Mears - thank you. I agree that I think I have the best option, not meaning to sound like I'm giving up on homebirth etc but I only wanted to homebirth whilst everything was normal. I'm just plain too chicken to do it if I know something is not completely standard. Also my dh, whilst supportive, has never been particularly happy. He saw/experienced what happened last time and I suspect he feels that the responsibility of a homebirth - even with the midwife there, is just too much for him. As we approach 40+ weeks my dh is getting more and more jittery (although he is trying hard not to tell me this) and both of us are reliving to some extent dd's birth. I supose this is to be expected and probably only normal given that both us have never discussed what happened last time. This pregnancy has been so different that really why I'm expecting the labour to be the same is beyond me.

Katherine I too agree its about getting your head around things and I have done that. Its also about sorting out what the real reason is. Yes I would like a homebirth but I was not set on it, what I was set on is not repeating last time - but even then given my dd I'd go through an awful lot more for her etc. No the root of my fears was the loss of control and the dramatics. No one can guarantee what my labour will be like but I have to say that people are attempting to waylay my fears and that in itself is nice.

Glad to hear you had a result from dh - tell him to keep going!!!! Last night the baby decided to place itself over my sciatic nerve and absolutely no position whatsoever other than up and walking could I get comfortable in! Funny I'd forgotton those nights with dd. Ugh - might find that I'm actually asking to be induced at 37+ at this rate .

Quackers - thinking of you all the time. My moans at this end are mere grumbles compared to the pure fear I felt at 6 weeks and bleeding. I need to go and read the other thread and see if you've had any results....

Thanks all. Pls see other thread in pgncy. I am so sad and upset, I really am going to suffer till next FRiday. Hope you;re all well.
Katherine

Marina: Sent email via mumsnet as I've lost your address. I'm in for a busy day tomorrow but in case you don't get my mail. Good luck and I'll be thinking about you and sending hugs all day Tuesday! .

Marina ... just wanted to say good luck for Tuesday ... might not get a chance to log on again before that .... has your DH been primed to let us know?????
Katherine ... hope the sh*g worked!!
Wills ... glad that your BP is not as high as it was and that you are feeling a bit more positive!!
Nothing major to report from me at the mo ... 14 weeks and seriously growing out of my clothes ... but still look like I've had a few too many doughnuts lately
Quackers .... am following your progress on the other thread .... thinking of you ....
Love G

HI Ghosty - not it didn't work although it was fun trying Felt really low yesterday but just resigning myself that this baby is following the rules this time. Only 4 days to go to my actual due date so it can't be much longer. Its just that everyone keeps hounding me to do things and I just want to be left alone. Because DD was so quick I'm scared to go out anywhere but even though everyone knows that they still keep pestering me. SIL (the one who wanted to go to Chester Zoo a couple of weeks ago) now wants to go to Knowsley Safari Park. Cracked jokes about me going into labour in the lion pen. Eventually convinced her it was not a good idea and she said "Oh well we'll all come over and look after the kids for you then". I know she means well. Its a kind offer but if I go into labour I don't want them around. I just want to shut the front door and get on with it. I'm fine about being on my own with the kids - they are all geared up for it now but I can't stand the thought of loads of spectators outside! Anyway think I'm just in a bad mood from lack of sleep. Once baby is out I will be up for anything but its just such an effort to move anything until then.

Anyway feeling a bit brighter today. At least DH got the new door frames painted without any interuptions and he's decided NOT to go to London today. The sun is out again so I'll be moaning about my feet soon but at least I can put the pool out for the children. Although I really need to go to the bank so thinking of braving town this morning and thought I might invest in a bucketful of raspberry leaf tablets while I'm there. Trouble is every time I think about going I get strong BH - do you think BH can be psychological?

Then I plan to pitch myself next to the lavnader bush inhaling deeping every few seconds with a couple of RRL tablets, some pineapple and maybe a G&T - and anything else I can think off, rubbing my feet vigourously. Will keep me busy for a couple of hours anyway and you never know I might smell so lovely by the time DH gets home that he might indulge my passions again

Marina - thinking of you for tomorrow. Hugs.

I'd forgotten about fresh pineapple. I read yesterday about "stimulating the nipples" - might give that one a miss though!

Just returned from seeing the consultant + scan etc. Baby has a small tummy but everything else is fine - this is probably the only time in its life its going to have a small tummy so as yet I'm not too worried. Made the enormous mistake of asking what sex the baby was - god but you'd think I'd asked them to give me money or something. At 37 weeks surely its ok to tell me now! The sales are on and I would love to go shopping! BP is still soaring despite the pills and I'm now on a 24hr walkabout bp monitor to see what it does during the day. Ought to stay still but....

I've been watching Musica and thinking to myself, get used to the idea of going late now. I had a stunningly strong BH yesterday and I really thought - wow its coming early? But alas no. Never mind I've got a really busy week this week so all in all I shouldn't wish for little one to come any earlier than it wants.

Hope everyone else is ok.

Quackers - I've posted on the other thread, but if you're reading this - hugs, hugs, hugs

Katherine, if I was you, I'd be in the paddling pool!!!

marina, just in case you don't get a chance to log on tomorrow am before you go, good luck and we look forward to hearing the good news, bon courage, bkxxx

Will be thinking about you tomorrow Marina. Best wishes, mears.

All the best for tomorrow Marina, Love Cam xxxx

Marina, just wanted to say I'm thinking of you for tomorrow too. Looking forward to hearing the announcment. Hugs xxx

Best of luck for tomorrow Marina - I'll be thinking of you. xxx

Good luck Marina, be thinking of you xxxxxx Take care of yourself xxxxxxx

Thank you all. Can't pretend I am not terrified after last time but heard today I will be done at around 11am, so please spare a thought for us all then.
dh is under instructions to post at some point on Tuesday evening - under my name as we suddenly seem to have run out of time to do all those exciting chores such as scour every last molecule of nail varnish off my toes, scoff high potency arnica every two hours, etc. So if you see a message from "me" it isn't, if you get my drift.
Wills, hope today went OK...hoping to catch up with you and everyone else here v. soon.