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Is your child ready for potty training at nursery? Here's the place for all your toilet training questions.

Sharing pottt training woes - no judgement

162 replies

anotherangel2 · 27/06/2018 10:02

A safe place to rant so you keep your frustrations away from your child.

I just want to sake ‘For fuck sake DD just sit in the potty for 10 seconds for a try and then we can go out to the aquarium. It’s not that difficult just sit your arse down’.

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Rainatnight · 20/07/2018 08:34

Aaaaaaaggggghhhh, so frustrated!

We had a really good few days, both for me at the tail end of the weekend and then for childminder.

And now it's completely fucking going to pot. Yesterday she just weed and pood with impunity, no attempt to go to potty.

And it's starting again today - just stood and looked down while she did a massive wee all over the kitchen floor.

I'm probably not as on the case I could be with prompting, which has worked wel previously, but at the same time she's become more resistant to prompting and I didn't want to get into the over-prompting/potty resistance thing.

She's been generally having quite a grumpy and tantrummy couple of days (well, yesterday and so far today, Christ, is it only half past 8?). So it might be something to do with that.

But give me strength, it's driving me mad. And the kitchen wee this morning made me think I should just put her back in nappies Sad

Help, anyone??

tiramisualwaystiramisu · 20/07/2018 08:49

It's up to you Rainatnight but I've read it's not good to go back to nappies once they've started. If she is able to do it, then it might be worth gritting your teeth and sticking with it. We're a bit further behind in the journey, so possibly not the best person for advice.

We had 2 accidents yesterday, but both due to not getting there in time - DS was on his way to the potty both times. So he's aware of the signs, he just doesn't get much notice yet. Definitely me backing off from prompting has helped and he's taking himself most times.

Still not sure how we progress to going out of the house for more than a hour or two. We have a travel potty, but he's not used it yet. Should I just be brave and take lots of spare clothes?

DinoGreen · 20/07/2018 09:38

Frustrating Rain. How old is your DD and how is she with bribery? We started with sweets/chocolate which was great motivation for DS! Then moved to stickers and now he’s hardly bothered about getting the sticker even, though he does ask for them sometimes.

tiramisu I think you just have to go for it with going out. We only stayed at home for 2 days and then went out as normal, taking the potty with us in a plastic bag and changes of clothes. As mentioned above also had puppy pads for the car seat and buggy as a precaution although DS hasn’t had any accidents in the car or buggy. If DS says he needs a wee he can hold onto it until we find somewhere suitable to get the potty out.

Littlecaf · 20/07/2018 19:07

Anyone got any advice for poo regression? DS is 3.5y and potty trained the week after he was 3. After a week he got it. Mostly used the Oh Crap book but since starting pre school in April he has only done about 6 poos in the potty or loo. Only in his pull up at night. (Usually at 5am before we can get in to him). Before he was fine. Pre school have been helping by he holds it until night/morning.

Today he needed a poo and had a massive temper tantrum as he won’t sit on the loo/potty. He then immediately pooed in his pants. I’m afraid I nearly lost my rag with him. The Oh Crap book suggests punishing some behaviour. He knew exactly what he was doing as he was looking at me at the time. Just at a loss with the poo thing. Wees are fine! Any suggestions?

Coldhandscoldheart · 21/07/2018 06:53

Oh dear, that sounds excessively frustrating. I can’t help but think it’s one of the things a bit like food that probably works better if you can remove the emotion (I am very, very bad at this with some things).

So not howling with frustration and getting Really Angry, but a natural consequence, of he has to help you clear up. And hmm. Something appropriate like, I dunno, only big boys can play with x toy, and you’re a little boy who doesn’t use the potty?

But I would be wary of ‘we would have gone to x today, but now we can’t, because that’s like playing a game where he doesn’t know all the rules?’

I have not had enough sleep. I hope you can make sense of that?

Coldhandscoldheart · 21/07/2018 06:55

Also maybe going back to some of the useful books for them to read about going to the loo? Actually that could be his punishment 😂

Oliphantintheroom · 21/07/2018 08:29

littlecaf has he had a firmer poo?
My DN would hold her poos in as she’d had a painful one, ended up having to take lactulose because she would
Hold for days and then quite literally have a poo explosion

Oliphantintheroom · 21/07/2018 08:31

Does anyone have any tips for while out and about?
I am most worried about the car, shorter trips around town are fine as I can pull over but when we are in London it’s a lot harder to find somewhere to pull over, I don’t want to regress and put nappies back on as he’s doing so well
Outdoors is still a bit hit and miss, feel I am over prompting but ds gets so wrapped up in the activity he’s doing

Coldhandscoldheart · 21/07/2018 08:45

Bedmat for the car seat (put a spare in the car as well). Must go for a wee before leaving the house. That’s all I’ve got, sorry.

Littlecaf · 22/07/2018 07:38

Thanks for your help and yes, taking the emotion out of it is what I’m trying now, (I was anyway, just slipped up after a long night awake with the baby).

Will try a toilet training book for him but we’ve watched Poo Goes to Pooland which he loves but still doesn’t actually want to sit on the loo/potty.

His poos are quite soft. I just can’t get him to sit on the potty (have tried books, iPad, Haribo). He just point blankly refuses and gets upset. The thing is he does talk about when he used to do poos on the potty and when I say “what about now?” he just says “no, I don’t want to”.

Sigh!

TheKitchenWitch · 24/07/2018 18:10

We have had slight success: I managed to correctly predict a poo and got him on the loo by giving him my phone to play with!
Never has a poo been so celebrated :D

He's still not ever indicating that he needs to go, either wee or poo, which means it's very much down to me to catch him in time. Mostly that's working fine, but I really do need him to either say he needs to go or at least admit he does when I ask!

Another positive step though: yesterday he went to the loo and weed on the floor there. So at least he was in the right room and making an attempt at getting to the loo.

Slightly panicking about the long car journey coming up though, as I definitely won't be able to stop very often!

tiramisualwaystiramisu · 24/07/2018 20:07

We wimped out of our longish day out planned for Sunday, but have been accident free since Saturday morning!

At the moment, he's telling us when he needs to go in enough time to get to the potty, but he won't go if asked. How do I get to getting him to go on request? He seems fairly good at holding it, but I would like to be able to go out on our schedule at some point and not worry about him having accidents

Coldhandscoldheart · 24/07/2018 20:15

Arg! Arg! Terrible day of wees on the floor and poo in pants, it’s like total regression. Could’ve cried, slightly lost the rag.
Nursery had to go to a pull-up y/day after a bad accident.
Gah.

DinoGreen · 25/07/2018 07:03

Sorry to hear that Cold. Maybe not quite ready?

tiramisu Just take the potty wherever you go when you go out. Ds won’t go on demand either and we’ve had numerous announcements of “i need a wee wee” not long after getting in the car. Usually he can hold it for a short journey. Once we had to stop down a side road and get the potty out!

We’ve had great success with weed everywhere and poos are fine at home, but he’s still having the odd poo accident at nursery which I don’t understand. He happily did one in the potty there on Monday but then yesterday did one poo in his nappy immediately on waking from his nap, and then later pooed in his pants 🙄 there must be something about pooing at nursery he’s not so comfortable with because he’s absolutely fine at home.

Coldhandscoldheart · 25/07/2018 13:47

I don’t know tbh, but I don’t feel we can go back to nappies again, I think we have to stick with it. I’m so cross with myself for getting annoyed, but I’m also fed up with everything covered in widdle.

TillyMint81 · 25/07/2018 22:52

About five weeks in and most of his poos are in his pants. He is dry all night, every night. Today at the middles swimming lesson he peed and then pooed himself with the 45 mins. Of course I had no change with me and ended up washing his pants out and trying to dry them with a hand dryer. 😭

SquashedBeetle · 26/07/2018 08:31

Can I join in? I’ve been reading all your posts to keep me sane since we started yesterday Sad

DS is just 2 - showing signs of being ready but already driving me insane.

The only wees we’ve had on the potty are ones I’ve caught mid flow... he’s bare bum all the time atm and taken to the potty every twenty minutes or so.

His favourite thing to do is to dutifully sit on the potty for five minutes, then stand up and pee all over the carpet 10 seconds later, barely a meter away. I want to kill him and then myself!!

Only ‘success’ we’ve had so far if you can call it that is that I saw he was going to poo, stuck him on the potty and he squeezed out a poo on there - up until now he would stop pooing immediately if anyone interrupted him.

Since then though he crapped where he was standing in the garden.

Please tell me I don’t have weeks and weeks of this soul destroying hell on earth to come?!

DinoGreen · 26/07/2018 12:24

Welcome Squashed! It is soul destroying isn’t it. My opinion is that you should give it a week or so. Personally I think if they haven’t got it in a week, it’s too early. No-one needs to be cleaning up wee and poo from the floor for more than a week. With my DS, we saw real progress after a week - it’s like something just switched on in his head. Since then, there’s only been the odd accident (and none at home, only at nursery where I think he’s more distracted/less comfortable with using the potty there).

SquashedBeetle · 26/07/2018 12:44

Thanks Dino - we seem to get to midday doing brilliantly, then he gets tired, which means a silly mood, not listening etc and it goes downhill from there Sad We started yesterday, he’s at his grandparents on Friday night and we have a friends BBQ on Saturday - going to try the loose shorts with no pants thing so hopefully it won’t be too horrific

Coldhandscoldheart · 28/07/2018 10:20

Does anyone have any thoughts on why this is so stressful? It’s really pressing my buttons, and I can’t get to the bottom of it.

Am now confused as on Wednesday, nursery worker I spoke to suggested putting her in a pull up. So I sent her in a pull up yesterday (although didn’t realise they didn’t keep them, so didn’t send extra) but the nursery worker I spoke to said to keep on with pants.
I don’t know what to do for the best!

LittleMy77 · 28/07/2018 18:56

We started today and apparently I have a child who's other job is a camel as he didn't pee for 4 bloody hours!

He's refusing to sit on the potty (unless we caught him on a rare time he started peeing) and refused to go naked. I predict the next few days are going to feel like an eternity...

mrsoutnumbered · 28/07/2018 22:08

Hello 👋

I've just started potty training my 27 month old. She's not talking much but does say 'weeeeeeee!' So there is some communication!

I had just done the monthly stock up of nappies when she decided she no longer wanted to wear them 🤦🏻‍♀️

Day 3 today, we did a day out today so she was in pull ups, but as soon as we get home it comes off and she does her wees and poos in the potty!

I'm wondering how I am ever going to leave the house without a pull up......

SquashedBeetle · 01/08/2018 10:57

Progress being made I think - DS has no idea what I was asking him to do for the first three days. A week in and he will now do a wee on the potty but that’s with me taking him every twenty mins/half an hour - he has not once taken himself or asked to go/told me he needs to go - how long did this bit take for everyone else?

tiramisualwaystiramisu · 01/08/2018 20:06

We are struggling - DS is now refusing to use the travel potty and wants to only use the one at home. We've then had to leg it home while he hops about and / or whines. Am assuming we will just have to have an accident out and about.

SquashedBeetle the oh crap book reckons going unprompted can take some time. DS is mostly going of his own accord now about 2 weeks in, but he is a stubborn so and so and was saying no if we prompted. So we had to back off. He's not 100% reliable, but he prefers to go at his own prompt, rather than ours

mrsoutnumbered · 02/08/2018 07:54

Day 8 and my child has just pissed all over the sofa 🤦🏻‍♀️

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