The world is NOT your child's toilet!

[AnnoyedAlot7]

Please, I implore you all to just keep them in a nappy until they're ready, the potty is just another step that has to be learned an un -learned again and will only cause you stress. I have two boys who are years beyond this stage now but I feel I am the only person left in this country who is is NOT ok with everyone thinking that if you are a boy in potty training, you will explode if you're not allowed to just piss like a dog where you like! IF THEY CAN'T WAIT PUT THEM IN A NAPPY! PLEASE! There is a reason that there is a law against public urination, because it IS offensive and although it is NOT unusual for grown people to get caught short after the pub with nowhere to go, trust me, if you teach your kids that it's fine to go where you want, it will be YOUR child who (instead of being discreet) will be desicrating some shop doorway or just being on full view on a Saturday night making everyone have to avoid stepping through and having to smell their dirty waste! I hate it and it makes me want to put my fist through glass!

Wow you are an understanding person aren't you!

I take it that you feel like this when dog owners are letting their pets urinate and poo on pavements too? A thimble full of wee is a lot less offensive I think.
Also a lot less offensive than letting a child who is still learning to control theyre bladder to stay in wet clothes snd get chaffed legs?

How will they ever learn to wait if they wear a nappy and can go whenever they please??

My ds loves an outdoor wee . He is now pretty much able to hold it in but on a long car journey today we finally got to a service station... and the toilets were out of order. My ds had a sneaky little wee next to the car. At 37w pg I had to cross my legs another 20 mins (so nearly an hour at this point) til the next garage. If that had been out of order then quite frankly I would have wee'd in the car park too!

My ds does not wee in shop door ways but fairly often next to the car in car parks/lay by's.

Hmmm.... My dds wee outside. If I am at a park and there are no public toilets, I find a tree/secluded area and they do it outside, better than wetting their knickers. This would include my current three year old who has been toilet trained successfully day and night for 12 months.

I was desperate to toilet train dd1 who was allergic to her own urine, resulting in eczema. Toilet training was the best solution for that.

I'm not bothered by small kids going to the toilets outdoors. We've been doing it outdoors for millions of years. Even now, not everyone has access to a toilet.

No issue with toddlers having a crafty slash against a car tyre but one sunny day last year we were eating our picnic on the beach when some inconsiderate bint brought her daughter over to within fucking literally 2ft of us and held her over the sand to piss! as well as the fear of splash back on our sandy sandwiches, we had to sit next to a pissy patch of sand! Grrrrr

You do know urine is sterile unless you have a UTI.

It is advised as a wound cleansing fluid in survival situations - contains ammonia and saline.

Obviously, it goes without saying, it's best done discreetly, but honestly, better than risking them wet they're pants.

No need to shout. If it is beside a road on a long car journey yabu, if it is in a forest yabu, if it is a grocery shop YANBU. Depends really.

No doorways here. Just lots and lots and lots of lovely grass to fertilize.

Hm outdoors like behind a bush in the countryside wouldn't bother me. Was at the woman who let her little darling pee on a crowded tube platform though. There was quite a lot of it and because of the shape and slope of the platform it ran down towards the tracks getting on people's bags, where they'd put them down to wait for the train, and onto people's shoes! It was at Paddington so it's not like there aren't toilets available. It didn't get on my bag so I didn't say anything but I can't believe anyone could be so inconsiderate. Wee smells and is unpleasant, I'm sure she would've had something to say if an adult had done the same thing to her bag.

It's a bit gross in concreted areas where it can't run away, as then there's a puddle and people aren't necessarily going to expect it to be wee. If you need to do it in a carpark or similar it would be best to do it directly into a drain.

Also I thought urine was only sterile until it left the body?

Wait till your children are being potty trained and then come back and moan

Sometimes an emergency discrete outside wee is necessary for girls and boys.

My two love a wild wee when caught short. Usually behind a tree.

It depends.

They've done it over a drain before too. If there are no toilets and they're desperate I try to be discreet.

They're 5 & 6 now, I won't be putting them back in nappies, that's for sure.

Ok so I apologise. Thought your kids were tiny not fully grown.

I still think emergency quick wees are necessary sometimes.

I think you've got some issues probably because your parents didn't let you do the all fresco peeing

Al fresco!

My ds loves peeing up against a tree in our garden! He went through a phase as a toddler of pretending to be a dog. This involved pooing in the garden :-/ glad he's grown out of that one!
I think most people have had a sneaky/desperate pee outdoors, but even ds doesn't wee in front of the general public! Chill out :)

My DS simply won't go outside, I'd actually quite like to him to go behind a tree or something instead of having to search desperately for a loo!

There's a way of doing it discreetly though, so as not to embarrass the child, I don't like seeing children being made to go on the edge of a street in full view. I always think it would take two seconds to dive down a back street!

Meh my ds (6) still has the odd wee outside. I couldn't care less what anyone thinks.

Honestly, if it's a choice between letting a toddler wee outdoors or all over themselves I will go with the al fresco weeing ta. If you seriously believe that this will produce adults who cannot stop themselves from peeing indiscriminately in doorways, that's just silly. And if anybody like you gave me any grief for letting a child wee if they were desperate, they would be told about themselves!

Nothing wrong with an outside wee. I'm quite partial to one myself occasionally.

My 5 year old had a wee in a huge empty ( well it had soil) flower pot last Sunday..it was not a private house one ..more like a council one in an empty summer resort!!!every bar possible area was closed it was that or a side street . nappy no thanks she was dry day and nights in 3 days age 2.8 .We had done an hour car journey ( wee in toilet before starting off). What do you suggest I had done ?

Urine is not sterile, that is a myth. It is only sterile until it reaches the urethra.

The odd outdoor wee done by a child doesn't bother me, tbh.

An outdoor wee done by a child who is of the age of being potty trained doesn't bother me too much.

The friend of my DD whose mother would tell her to go wee behind a bush while out at the park when she was 7 years old did bother me though. I'd have taken mine to the nearest toilet (in this case in the family pub a 2 minute walk from the park) or home (friend and I always drove to this park so would be a 2 min drive for either of us) to use the toilet rather than wee in public.

Currently potty training my DD. She's still learning bladder control. She can't wait, she doesn't yet know how or have the muscle control. We take the potty everywhere but if she needs to use it between our house and, say, the park, we don't have much choice.

Hardly see her turning into some sort of al fresco wee monster when she's a teenager, tbh

Well I hate dog crap too but it's not the wee so much as the act itself. As opposed to animals we morally associate releasing our waste as something that can be used to insult or desicrate, example; "I wouldn't even piss on you if you were on fire" or the way that cowboy builders just love to piss in your garden or violent attackers will occasionally piss on their victims, in other words it's a sign of
contempt. I feel that contempt when I see people training their kids to be so anti social especially if it happens across my line of sight, I can't un see that now and have to feel shit because of it. You ask how are they going to learn in nappies but I say how are they going to learn if you let them go where and when they like anyway, right? infact a nappy will at least feel uncomfortable but, oh, what a palava you can cause and get instant attention when you need the toilet, the panic and fuss all for me! that's what is going through that kids mind, he's not worried about chaffed legs, he just knows that you are and that you'll stop anything you're doing to tend to their apparently bursting bladder....accidents can happen sure but it's a manipulating tool people wake up! and I don't have to be anymore understanding cause I have 2 boys and I always made them wait until we got to a public convenience....just one accident between them, they can aaaaallll hold it longer than you think. You may think me sharp but it's something that has gotton worse and worse over the years and it is truly upsetting for some of us which is why I addressed it. Some people get irate by rude shopkeepers, I feel desicrated when this happens near me, especially when I know that they know that some people find it highly offensive but don't care, that their kid is
manipulating them like a fool and what's more, since when is it ok to not wash your hands? ie; if someone stood in front of you fumbling in their trousers then offered you their hand to shake, would you? do these people even teach their kids basic hygiene and manners or is it just expected that they just learn by themselves one day to wait to get to a loo and wash their hands? If you don't teach it, they won't learn it and by the time they are old enough to drink in town they will be dreanching peoples doorways, businesses and shoes and it will be everyone else's problem right?