The world is NOT your child's toilet!

[AnnoyedAlot7]

Please, I implore you all to just keep them in a nappy until they're ready, the potty is just another step that has to be learned an un -learned again and will only cause you stress. I have two boys who are years beyond this stage now but I feel I am the only person left in this country who is is NOT ok with everyone thinking that if you are a boy in potty training, you will explode if you're not allowed to just piss like a dog where you like! IF THEY CAN'T WAIT PUT THEM IN A NAPPY! PLEASE! There is a reason that there is a law against public urination, because it IS offensive and although it is NOT unusual for grown people to get caught short after the pub with nowhere to go, trust me, if you teach your kids that it's fine to go where you want, it will be YOUR child who (instead of being discreet) will be desicrating some shop doorway or just being on full view on a Saturday night making everyone have to avoid stepping through and having to smell their dirty waste! I hate it and it makes me want to put my fist through glass!

op I don't care where my ds wees.

He's 5 and can hold it but I can't be arsed to get up off my lovely picnic blanket to take him to the stinky toilets and pay for him to have a wee.
Much rather he does it outside.
Even when we're in the garden I tell him to go outside rather than up 2 flights of stairs and the faff of taking shoes off.

What I do detest is people who don't use paragraphs, therefore making their post difficult to read.
Different strokes.

Ps ds is very well mannered in every other way.
Pps you sound very uptight, I feel sorry for your boys

Hmmmmmmmm....oooookay.... Are you seriously comparing teaching a kid to wait until you get to a loo with long term and horrific child abuse? Rhetorical, obviously as you don't have a clue what I'm talking about

Hmmmmmmmmm okay well like I and others have stated this is just your issue and frankly the cases you have made up thread -which you are trying to backtrack from at an alarming rate whereby children are prevented from going to the toilet by an adult as a matter of course in order to teach them a lesson IS frankly abusive and neglectful.

Yep, unfortunately I do!, I understand the fact that there has always been the occasional urgent need but people used to be discreet and have some humility about it, they cared enough not to offend but now everywhere I go I'm forced to witness something that is now apparently to be expected as far as some people are concerned. The garages where I live are treated like a toilet, in town, out in the open and not toddlers only older kids too who could've learned to hold it are not being expected to anymore. One shocking occasion was a tiny tot, toddle alone out of a subway cafe, pull down his trousers, pissed by the door then toddle back in again, not only highly dangerous to have a kid expose his self in public alone but also just the sheer nasty carelessness of his parent who thinks so little of our town that it's just a toilet now even though we had plenty open that day. People can't be bothered anymore , they don't care and as you can see by some of the posts they really don't give a crap for the way that careless attitude can feel to others. You know, like them "marmite people" "love me or hate me i don't care" people. I get why you say that I sounded "unhinged" but to me, this is symbolic of the way people regard those and the space around them and I can't help that it makes me sad or angry, it's a recent change I don't like and not the only thing I care about, I try to be considerate and it would be nice if more people could get what I mean although I can see some people do. :)

Where have I back tracked? I was angrily direct in my first general post but I have added a bit more decorum and MANNERS when replying to individuals except for those who have called me names which I have reported! I stand by the main trunk of my rant absolutely and if you had read it properly (you're not the only one) you would understand that I'm not talking about the odd desparate occasion, I'm talking about the total avoidance of teaching any control, descression, manners , consideration or decent conduct in public places because your little darling has you panicking at the thought of a little accident and gets instant all encompassing attention when they like cause they've never had to try to hold it just for a bit. Do your kids learn by reading your mind or are all lessons cruel to you?

Ok so look up another word in a thesaurus that's less dramatic.....sorry i don't have a level English but I wrote quite a lot more than that so you might still get the gist

Don't patronize me or condecend me.

Well if you had bothered to read it you'd realized your personal example of 18 coach journeys are nothing close to what I'm talking about the( manners and a little discipline) if you can't be arsed to read it then what gives you the right to comment. Do you often want to comment on things you haven't seen or read because the tabloids told you you should?

Yes but having to wait until you get to a toilet isn't.

Eh?

I know it sounds stupid logically but the two have grown hand in hand in my personal experience, if you don't teach them to care when they're small why would they give a crap in later years. Many people get caught short whilst boozing but not everyone is a brazen and careless as those never taught to give a crap. Well that's what I believe:)

wtf?

this is just fucking odd.

what a weird thing to obsess about.

I won't read that ridiculous patter either because you insist on writing all in one chunk.

If either of my children need a wee whilst we are out we find a toilet, if no toilet then they can piss where the hell they like!

I get it, it upsets me and you don't care.

That's what I'm talking about.

There are more of your type of person about these days.

What gets you upset about other folk? If I listened to you and tried to understand your point of view, that would make me considerate
not what you are

'your type of person'

And if anyone else wants to tell me they don't care and I should talk about something more important.........
I also think David Cameron is a souless C *!
Chew on that.... I'm going to do some work now.bye!

Ok, one more as I can see you're struggling....
"your type"meaning, the type who says the kind of thing you said.
The "type" that does not care what I think, right?
Keep picking on words and phrases that you can feign offence to

Oh good god.

I can see your point to a degree. Last summer we were in a pub garden and a boy of about 8 came and did a wee up against a tree next to our table and his parents didn't even bat an eyelid.

I have also scolded ds's friends for taking a wee wherever they fancy when we are in close proximity of toilets.

Odd thing to be so het up about. I am out and about a lot and can probably count on one hand the number of times I've noticed a small child having a wee in public. It is nothing compared to the number of times I've had to dodge dog shit or splatters of vomit, both much more horrible than a little, innocuous wee.

I let DS wee in hedges or bushes (public ones, not gardens) if he is desperate. Part of the ecosystem, innit, good for the greenery!

AnnoyedAlot7

Wanna do a little meditatin'? Huh?

This is funny

This is funny

Yes as the thread progresses I realise that is the idea.

Stop stop stop

rewind

you live in a garage OP? No wonder you are angry, you probably sleep poorly. Poor you x