The world is NOT your child's toilet!

[AnnoyedAlot7]

Please, I implore you all to just keep them in a nappy until they're ready, the potty is just another step that has to be learned an un -learned again and will only cause you stress. I have two boys who are years beyond this stage now but I feel I am the only person left in this country who is is NOT ok with everyone thinking that if you are a boy in potty training, you will explode if you're not allowed to just piss like a dog where you like! IF THEY CAN'T WAIT PUT THEM IN A NAPPY! PLEASE! There is a reason that there is a law against public urination, because it IS offensive and although it is NOT unusual for grown people to get caught short after the pub with nowhere to go, trust me, if you teach your kids that it's fine to go where you want, it will be YOUR child who (instead of being discreet) will be desicrating some shop doorway or just being on full view on a Saturday night making everyone have to avoid stepping through and having to smell their dirty waste! I hate it and it makes me want to put my fist through glass!

My DC have occasionally wee'd al fresco. I don't gave a problem with this. I was in a shop with DD1 who told me she needed a wee, no toilets nearby so I held her over a drain. I lovely old lady came by to sympathise, but I said I was happy, DD said she needed a wee, let me put the things down in the shop, go outside and get her bottoms down, a good result for me.

DS once had an al fresco wee and asked for a poo too, I pointed out we were using a tree just off the high street, he could hold a poo until we got home!

Mind you, when holding DD1 once over a gutter for a wee she told me her wee was too scared to come out!

No, they don't learn in nappies as nappies are designed to keep kids dry and comfortable. They only learn by being aware of what's going on- which means getting wet. And no, they can't wait, at least to begin with, as they just don't have the bladder control.

You sound awfully cross. It's not that big a deal. The streets are hardly awash with piss. Not round here, anyways.

You feel shit and desecrated? I think you have this out of all proportion.

I happen to broadly agree that some people take it too far with allowing kids to pee anywhere (though really can't get worked up about a wee in a bush) but I think you need some perspective.

You are really that bothered about little kids wee? Might I suggest you get a grip...?

Dog shit...now there is something to get worked up about.

Haha good one OP. lolz.

I am 43, if i get caught short and theres an alleyway, i'll go - i will let my dd (8) do the same. i would not do this if it was likely to cause offence and obviously not in a shop doorway. but in the bushes - yep - its just wee!

I should clarify, i mean an alleyway of bushes and mud, not an alleyway between houses. i often get caught short walking my dogs in the middle of no where. Its bad for you to hold it in youknow

You're starting to sound a little unhinged OP.

I sometimes wee'd behind a bush as a child and am now more than capable of holding it in until I find a loo. I think most adults could say the same

What brought on the original post? What did you see that set this off, that has made you so annoyed? I'm trying to understand why you sound so irate.

Or do you live somewhere where people all wee left, right and centre in public, in front of you?

Hi thanks for your comment and being nice, it sounds like just one of those days, not the kind of stuff I'm really upset about as itcomes across like a last resort rather than your childs right and besides girls are usually encouraged to wait more than boys are as if boys are any less capable of controlling themselves!

OP - how long did you keep your boys in nappies then? Were you one of those people who keep them in nappies until really late?

Most DCs who are'nt made to wait will go through a time of not realising they need a wee until they really need to do it now - it's a normal stage that doesn't last, they get better at working out they need to go.

BTW - If your DS's piss on their hands, you've obviously not taught them to hold their penises properly.

Oh and no OP, girls IME aren't made to wait more, but they are usually taken to more discreet places to wee. Although apparently boys get muscle control later than girls.

My nearly 6 year old ds1 has autism, albeit high functioning, he also has sensory issues. He has no issues with being in wet pants/trousers and will happily sit in his own poo. If he needs a wee outside and he actually pulls his pants down and goes then hooray for ds1.

If he needs to go, he needs to go right now. Ultimately if he pees himself, it will run down his leg onto the floor or he can pull his trousers down all the way to his ankles as he has no disgression or sense of self awareness and water a patch of grass.

Both my DCs have had outdoor wees when they've been caught short. Usually over a grid or behind a bush.

Not surprisingly as they've got older and learned how to hold it in and go to the toilet, they don't want to wee in public.

If you don't untwist those knickers of yours, you could do yourself an injury.

Sometimes the public toilets are so disgusting I won't let the children wee in there anyway. So they go round the back of the building instead.

OP, have you been at the lemsips?

Thank you! now THAT'S what I'm talking about! the odd urgent and discreet occasion where no one else has to see, sure but it's that attitude you've mentioned that has got me so irate in the first place! Everyone has been caught short, I'm talking about this new wave of selfish, my kid can go where they like to the detriment of anyone else attitude. I appreciate you actually getting that it might upset some more than others which means you are likely to be more considerate. Cheers

Desecration is violating somewhere sacred - shop doorways are not sacred - and using that term just sounds so ridiculous.

I agree that it is vile when adults pee in public places - but I greatly doubt that they do it because they did al fresco wees as children - it has more to do with them being drunk as skunks.

I get that it's not going to be a priority for some, it's those that simply don't care and positively encourage it that get me going and the fact that it's so often now and in my face when for most it's so just a lazy choice.

I wouldn't go in public when I was little - 18 hour coach journey where i refused to use the loo resulted in a nasty infection so i'd rather a child had a wee outside rather than hold it for too long if a toilet isn't immediately accessible.

I couldn't read your long post (all one paragraph) but i gather from other posts it was a tad far fetched.

Unless a child is pissing on your shoes is it really that big a deal?

Nope the issue seems to be a bit more about how uptight you are about normal bodily functions. I am all for discretion and not seeing the world as your toilet but frankly you have made mad generalisations about what all kids can do based on your anecdata of 2 children. You seem to have included generalisations about how every one else treats girls based on.....well I am not really sure so I think on balance you are definitely being unreasonable. People get caught short when they do they wee outdoors, it is not particularly risky behaviour as long as the are as discreet as possible.

brian same here. I'd much rather we wee'd in the forest, away from a path, than a manky public toilet.

I would be right behind you in your outrage if it was dog shit or fucking pavement pizzas blurgh

But wee just does not bother me, dogs wee everywhere and I much prefer children's wee to dogs.

my kids are now 12 and 10, never let them do it until at a toilet and only one accident between them, trust me most kids can wait longer than you think.