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Is your child ready for potty training at nursery? Here's the place for all your toilet training questions.

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The world is NOT your child's toilet!

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AnnoyedAlot7 · 02/02/2014 02:01

Please, I implore you all to just keep them in a nappy until they're ready, the potty is just another step that has to be learned an un -learned again and will only cause you stress. I have two boys who are years beyond this stage now but I feel I am the only person left in this country who is is NOT ok with everyone thinking that if you are a boy in potty training, you will explode if you're not allowed to just piss like a dog where you like! IF THEY CAN'T WAIT PUT THEM IN A NAPPY! PLEASE! There is a reason that there is a law against public urination, because it IS offensive and although it is NOT unusual for grown people to get caught short after the pub with nowhere to go, trust me, if you teach your kids that it's fine to go where you want, it will be YOUR child who (instead of being discreet) will be desicrating some shop doorway or just being on full view on a Saturday night making everyone have to avoid stepping through and having to smell their dirty waste! I hate it and it makes me want to put my fist through glass!

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BobPatSamandIgglePiggle · 02/02/2014 22:56

Would you have left them in pain if, say, your 5 year old had been really involved in playing, came to you desperate (doing the desperate dance) and the nearest toilet was 20 minutes away? Genuine question.

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AnnoyedAlot7 · 02/02/2014 23:04

Thanks, People have always had to be discreet in emergencies but nowadays (where I live anyway) people just don't care and that is what I believe is passed on through their kids. When it comes to toilet habits I really feel that manners are important, if it gets to the point no one has any care then it'll be us lot in old age putting up with it everywhere.:)

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anothernumberone · 02/02/2014 23:07

Annoyed a lot when you did this survey of most kids did you include any other questions?

curlew · 02/02/2014 23:10

I think if you feel desirqted by the sight of a 2 year old peeing you need to think about whether you might benefit from some counselling, to be honest.....

curlew · 02/02/2014 23:11

Sorry, that should be desecrated.

fluffypillow · 02/02/2014 23:13

Really??? Don't you have anything important to worry about? Confused

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AnnoyedAlot7 · 02/02/2014 23:14

they waited but because they'd always had to meant that they wouldn't wait to say until the desparate dance, if you know what I mean!:) I just made them wait and chanced it, if i got too much there would've been more accidents, being uncomfortable once or twice will make them take more responsibility, kids always say they don't need to go before you leave the house because they're busy, excited, distracted or lazy, they will think twice though if they know it can take a while to find a loo!

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BobPatSamandIgglePiggle · 02/02/2014 23:17

Bloody Hell - kids don't need punishments with you around then eh??

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AnnoyedAlot7 · 02/02/2014 23:19

I'm not that sad but if YOU had something more important to say or do you wouldn't be here asking me such a contrived question obviously devised to deflate me in some way.

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HugAndRoll · 02/02/2014 23:22

Bit obsessed with potty training and where children wee aren't you OP? Only one other post other than this thread on the same topic...

anothernumberone · 02/02/2014 23:22

Annoyed with all due respect you seem to have experience with 2 children and you keep extrapolating that all other children are the same. I also in my limited experience of children have noticed that they often tell you the of not need to use the loo before a journey and yes we also ensure they do. which is not rocket science however dd2 gets virtually no warning from Shen she gets the sensation to we'd until she actually needs to go. You might get 5 minutes out of her at a push. She is god forbid a girl who has indeed on occasion weed outdoors. I would agree about free for all seeing by adult men after a night on the beer being disgusting but the rest of your generalisations and assertions about children seem to be more about your issues than any real life issue.

anothernumberone · 02/02/2014 23:23

Feck sake so many typos apologies.

anothernumberone · 02/02/2014 23:24

Bit obsessed with potty training and where children wee aren't you OP? Only one other post other than this thread on the same topic

Good to know

BobPatSamandIgglePiggle · 02/02/2014 23:28

You've raised 2 children - I've taught hundreds. I KNOW that children, when those of 7/8/9... can get totally carried away and are suddenly desperate.

I simply don't believe that your children are / were never caught unawares so either you have a selectiv memory or yours were worried about upsetting you because of your toilet issues answer hid it.

I'm a grown woman and i had to leg it to the toilet answer only just saved myself from wetting myself as i'd been kneeling on the floor playing with DS, changed position and thought - i need to go NOW!

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AnnoyedAlot7 · 02/02/2014 23:28

well if they learn after just a couple of uncomfortable occasions they won't have to worry again, you don't have to nag them and if they did have an urgent need it's obvious that it's genuine and rarely occurring.

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HaroldLloyd · 02/02/2014 23:31

Wow your cross.

anothernumberone · 02/02/2014 23:37

Well annoyed what the rest of the world has learned is if you leave them uncomfortably that they can wee themselves and

  1. most parents are not so cruel that they want their children to suffer that level if discomfort

  2. inevitably it will be the parent who cleans up the mess if it do happens that you underestimate the demand.

Although there were those horrific children's homes when the nuns used holding off on toilet visits as one of their many forms of torture and also had the small children clean themselves as part of their continued ritual humiliation. I would suggest preventing children from going to the toilet when they need to to show them a lesson is neglectful and denying human rights.

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AnnoyedAlot7 · 02/02/2014 23:39

well I get desparate too but i guess that's my pelvic floor (size 10hips 10lb8oz baby)! and my boys don't have have that problem....like i said, kids may get distracted, however, just 1 or 2 uncomfortable occasions make them learn to think about it before they go out the house, it's hardly scary! nothing happened to them, they just had to wait until we got to a loo, got their relief and took more notice if their bladder thereafter.

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AnnoyedAlot7 · 02/02/2014 23:45

Hmmmmmmmm....oooookay.... Are you seriously comparing teaching a kid to wait until you get to a loo with long term and horrific child abuse? Rhetorical, obviously as you don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

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AnnoyedAlot7 · 02/02/2014 23:55

I accept your point, it's not easy and kids aren't all the same. My point is the incredible rise in the occasions it happens around me, brazenly, not an urgent need, not discreetly but just learned bad behaviour, you can tell the difference, a lot of kids aren't being taught to at least try to wait until somewhere unseen. If their parents don't care, they won't either when they grow up and more people who don't have problem with it now will notice when it happens where they live. :)

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HaroldLloyd · 02/02/2014 23:57

I dispute the fact that letting a toddler wee outside is linked in any way shape or form to pissed up adults urinating in shop windows.

For that, I blame Stella Artois.

HaroldLloyd · 02/02/2014 23:57

I dispute the fact that letting a toddler wee outside is linked in any way shape or form to pissed up adults urinating in shop windows.

For that, I blame Stella Artois.

HaroldLloyd · 02/02/2014 23:58

I dispute the fact that letting a toddler wee outside is linked in any way shape or form to pissed up adults urinating in shop windows.

For that, I blame Stella Artois.

HaroldLloyd · 02/02/2014 23:58

I dispute the fact that letting a toddler wee outside is linked in any way shape or form to pissed up adults urinating in shop windows.

For that, I blame Stella Artois.

HaroldLloyd · 02/02/2014 23:59

Whoops