Sept 08: How do we like our eggs in the morning? Fertilised, or completely and most definitely unfertilised?

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A brand spanking new thread where we can chat about the state of our eggs, SWI, our veg patches and any other topic we fancy

hopefully We organised our entire wedding in the space of 4 weeks. I say go for it this summer. It will be much more fun - you know that stress expands to fill the time available, don't you?

Hopefully we organised our wedding fairly quickly too but we went and did it abroad.

Mama I was doing Slimming World and was doing really well but wasn't able to go to the group for a few weeks and have totally lost focus and started to put it all back on again!

I'm at home at the moment as DS is ill. He had a bad fever which started last Friday and then he came out in a horrible rash all over. I honestly thought he had measles - and so did the doctor at first but he says he's missing a symptom that he would have - he also mentioned fifth disease but he thinks it's actually tonsillitis as his tonsils are really swollen and gunky. Apparently the rash is linked to this. Anyway have been told to keep him off until tomorrow but the penicillin has already kicked in and he seems much better today.

BTW does anyone know what might cause discolouration in teeth. DS's teeth seem a funny colour and it seems no matter how much I clean them I can't get them clean.

ILTMIMI have never been to Suffolk before so very much looking forward to it.

Dastardly I think some antibiotics can discolour teeth, but I believe that it's more about discolouring adult teeth while they're still in the gum, rather than baby teeth. Does he drink too much red wine and coffee?

Would quite like to organise a wedding in 4 weeks, but DPs bestest friends live in Holland, so we'd have to give them plenty of notice. But a couple of months would probably be doable if we do decide to go for it. Although there's always the teeny weeny chance that I might be PG, which will distract me too much to organise my way out of a paper bag.

debi that sounds like a fabulous weekend's fun

hopefully go on get married this Sept!

D&S I don't know about the teeth. My neighbour's kid had really brown front teeth but when they fell out the adult ones grew through perfectly white. It was nothing to do with how she brushed them. Have you taken your ds to the dentist yet to ask? Glad you like the school too

mama glad to have passed on the cyber virus! Tips for the pox are calamine cream (stays on better than lotion), oats in tights in the bath makes a nice anti-itch solution, regular calpol, and a couple of doses of piriton a day. We found day three and night three the worst. Within a week I think all the scabs had healed over, and that's when they're not infectious any more.

Well unsurprisingly I'm not pg

The doc was pleased that there's nothing wrong with my ovaries, and when I explained how much pain I was in, especially the digestive pain, she totally agreed with my self-diagnosis of endometriosis and has referred me to the gynae. My appt is 26 July so I have two more months in which to get pg and then I can cancel the appt! Also if we get pg before then I'll have 3 under 4s which will satisfy my desire for a big, close family

Hmm I think a trip to the dentist is needed.

mama We found a tepid bath before bed helped with ds1.

hopefully oooh, go for this september and you will DEFINATELY get pregnant!!

D&S Your poor ds...tonsilitis is horrid.

Not much to report here....going back to docs myself on thurs re: gynae ishoos (I have a small fibroid which they found last year) which should be good fun

Is anyones elses LO getting a bit..erm....militant??? I can't really think of another word to describe Toby at the moment! If he doesnt get what he wants when he wants it he just screams (more so when he is tired) and other times when I tell him off or tell him "no" he lies on the floor and puts his head in his hands!!!! He is such a drama queen!

Dont know where he gets that from...sniff

Hopefully I second the advice: get married this September! Not only will this no doubt prompt you getting pregnant (as we all know that when it rains it pours), but you will reap the benefits of the tory's planned married couples tax breaks earlier.

DS had tonsilitis and a terrible fever last week too, so he had to be off nursery. The doc gave him antibiotics and did a throat swab to see whether the infection was bacterial. It turns out that the infection was caused by a virus, so ABs were a waste of time and now have to stop the course. I resent the way docs prescribe ABs with gay abandon. Not only do we expose our LOs to far too many chemicals, but we also risk making these chemicals less effective when the need truly arises.

Paranoid pregnancy update: I think my boobs are ever so slightly larger, but they are not tender. I still have no nausea and my levels of tiredness are not out of the ordinary. I don't know whether I'm lucky or whether anything is amiss.

Becaroo I so get this militant attitude you describe. Toby and Diego have been exchanging notes. And I tell you, Diego is LOUD!

Oh gosh, think wedding this September may be becoming less likely - DP has just come home from work and announced he's on redundancy notice . Basically they're getting rid of one member of staff, and it's going to be either him or one of two other colleagues. Eek. Can't even think about the implications, having just moved house etc, am just hoping and hoping that it's one of the other guys (for which I doubtless deserve bad karma, but one commutes over 100 miles every week and has no children and the other one is about 12 and has no children, so I feel less guilty). With luck they'll find out before the end of the week, so it's going to be an unrelaxing few days! Also AF due on Friday, so probably (a) DP will find out he's been made redundant and (b) I'll be in a state whether I'm pregnant or not!

Onto more cheerful matters, T is completely militant. Mainly I do what's easiest to keep him happy, but every now and again (the supermarket springs to mind) when he has to do something he doesn't want to do, he turns into the comical tantrumming child. He also buries his head in his hands and weeps, which is hilarious

Carrie can endemetriosis spring up after 2 pregnancies, or is it something you've always had and just not known about? I seem to remember a cousin having it, but I never really listened as it was before I was thinking of children. Glad you're able to get a referral and get it sorted on the off chance you don't fall pregnant meantime (which I'm sure you will)

Oh hopefully how worrying for you all.

As regards endo, I don't know if it can start later. I've always wondered if I've had IBS, but its never been bad enough to warrant going to the docs about. So it could be that what I thought was IBS was in fact endo on the bowel, but I'd never noticed the cyclical nature of it before. It took a year to conceive dd, which could be explained by endo, which sort of goes into remission when you're pregnant (ironically it stops you getting pg, but being pg is one of the best 'cures'!). I guess my body was still in pregnancy mode when I got pg with ds, as dd was only 8mo. But now its flared up/started in a major, painful, and fertility busting way. Oh well, at least I'm in the system in the hospital now. Still praying for a miracle in the mean time as I know many of you are!

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becaroo We get the dramatics from DD when she can't do what she wants. I have to say she is very good at it, bottom lip out pouting, hurling herself to the floor & wailing when things don't go her way. It's easy to ignore ignore ignore as I am usually trying not to chuckle and have to turn away.

hopefully Fingers crossed that your DP (DF ) keeps his job.

My dad was admitted to the hospice today. They have tripled his dose of steroids to try and perk him up and he has eaten more today so I am hoping he feels better after a good nights sleep. The plan is for him to stay for a couple of weeks and they can adjust meds and maybe do blood transfusion and scan. He cheered up this evening and asked me to take Marmite up tomorrow , and he was talking about Top Gear and moaning about the drain being blocked at home and having to do battle with the insurance company to decide who pays for the un-blocking. So his inner grumpy old man is still alive and kicking .

Robyn is starting to tantrum more. Our favourite is when you try and pick her up and she doesn't want to. She runs to a corner of the room, squats down and flaps her hands like mad. The worst ones are where she screams and arches her back and struggles so much you almost drop her. Sometimes when she wants something she will flop on the floor crying as well so I think we are definitely starting on the terrible twos, just in time for baby coming.

A is getting very good at stropping persistently - this morning's was when we said he mustn't throw his laptop on the floor (or anyone else's...) He's previously managed to return to the kitchen stairgate screaming 'Yoggit! Yoggit!' for over an hour.

He threw all his other toys on the floor, looked up at me then tried to grab some papers to hurl, but decided to be distracted by being asked to take something to the recycling bin. And then returned to howl and try to throw the laptop again. Ended up giving a big cuddle muttering "Who's a stubborn little git then, just like his mummy and daddy?"

He's finally calling me 'mummy' rather than daddy about half the time

Not pregnant - thought I was but clearly I'm just acquiring more tummy. On the plus side I can go private for an initial consultation and tests with the consultant I saw in 2007, so will do that as the NHS clearly don't want to give me an appt...

Oh NC so sorry you're not pg

DS has been on the naughty step a million times for throwing. As soon as he's had enough of something he just throws it around the room. Just patiently trying to teach him to move onto another activity.

If its any consolation, dd had pretty much finished tantrumming by the age of 2, there really weren't any terrible twos, it was a great age. The tiresome threes however...

DD put three of her favourite teddies in the toilet this morning and then wailed like we'd tried to strangle her when I told her off.

Just popping in before going to pick up C. Hopefully all is crossed for DF - I hope things work out.

We now possess a pair of Clarks Doodles! Cheshire Oaks outlet has a great Clarks factory shop and they had size 4 doodles for £9. Last year's style but who cares?!
C not quite a 4 but she will be soon.

Quick question - every night after her bath C points to her bits and wants sudocrem on. If I ask her if she is itchy or sore down there she says yes. I suspect she just likes having it put on every night, in the same way that a little boy would like playing with his willy, as there is no indication of any problems - no redness, no spots, no flaky skin, no discharge and she doesn't normally scratch there.
Does anyone know of any problem that would have absolutely no symptoms and can only be solved by topical sudocrem?!

Oh and we've had tantrums since C was 14 months. Great big sobs, rolling tears and if we try to pick her up she will kick, bite, pinch and struggle. So much fun when you're out and about amnd, say, need to get her back into the pushchair! She was in the incident book yesterday for pinching another toddler's face for no reason.

I know I am awful, but your stories of tanturn=ming dc are manking me feel slightly better about Tobys histrionics

pacita hmmm....Diego and Toby could well be in league with each other!!

He has been in a really bad mood today but it may be because he hurt his foot this morning and is still limping on it (not sure what he as done) Am hoping he is not coming down with something....

meglet Glad your dad is feeling like a grumpy old man himself again

Bugger!!!! I can never get the word strike to work!!!! harumph!

Am also not pg . AF has just arrived. Cannot go and week at DP as he's in such a state about potential redundancy (no word yet, hopefully by the end of the week). NC sorry you're in the same boat, but hope private consultant holds some joy.

Am going to book appt with doc and discuss pregnancy thing. i know there's nothing they'll do till it's been a year, but I really want a consultant to properly check out how my cervix healed after tearing (oh, the glamour).

DS, having refused to wear his hat for the entire time it was about 1,000 degrees out, will not take it off today. he is currently playing merrily in the bath wearing a pale blue sunhat with lobsters on it

carrie, Hopefully and NC I think your all going to have babies together so you can continue supporting each other.
Oh the pox is on the mend. I think they are dring out!!
No tantrums here yet.He always seems a bit slow with things. But I am sure they will hit hard when they come. I will enjoy my happy contented baby a while longer.
Getting bored at home now. I might venture out tomorrow. If he is strapped in pram with sun canopy down no one will see the spots .

mrsarch - If you don't think there's anything wrong, C probably thinks it's part of the routine.

Sorry to hear about AF Hopefully and NC. Can I tentatively recommend a book called Taking Charge of Your Fertility. It tell's you everything you need to know about your cycle and the different phases of it, and why each part plays a part in getting pg, or not if you use the charting method for contraception. When I read it I was quite shocked at how little I knew about my cycle.

DS is quite good at tantrums, but at the moment he's quite easy to distract, but I know this won't last forever.

Good news that your Dad's getting the help and support he needs meglet.

Don't know if DG is around lately but just seen her recent photos of A on fb - my God, he is amazing! He looks like a 3 year old - so grown up and tall compared to my oompaloompa C.

She's fast asleep now, DP is in Edinburgh for 2 nights and I'm stuck doing his accounts. Bloody unfair I say!

Ta for sudocrem comment ILTMIMI. Thing is, it never was part of our routine until recently. i put a dab on when she has a small spot on her bits and now she insists on it every night.
This might sound a bit weird (but I know you'll know what I mean ladies) but I think she enjoys the feeling of having it put on. Ahem, how do I put it - if she were 17 years older and her boyfriend was doing it, well....you know. Not that I do it like that - I just gently pat it in like I would on her bottom or any other part of her body.
Can toddlers enjoy such things? I know not in a sexual way but in a 'this feels nice' way. She definitely only wants it on her bits

Sorry if this sounds very strange, it does to me!

MrsA I was going to say the same thing as ILTMIMI about your dd and the sudacreme. They get fixated on bits of their routine and she might just be sharing with you that that's what happens next, so the more you put creme on (which will do no harm I'm sure!) the more you're reinforcing that that's the routine!

I've just found my packing spreadsheet on the computer (no , I'm proud of it!) as we're away for my bro's wedding next week. It has all sorts of baby stuff on it that we haven't used in yonks, thinking back I don't think we've been away since last June other than me and dh going to a wedding overnight in August. To be fair we've moved house in that time, and decided to stay here for Christmas which is a time we'd normally go away.

Did anyone use a 'proper' swaddling blanket with their newborn? i.e. one specially shaped with velcro bits, as opposed to just swaddling them in a blanket? I am wondering whether it is worth buying asking a relative to buy one for the new baby.

hopefully Really have my fingers crossed for your DP and the job.

For the TTC crowd, I can second ILTMIMI's book recommendation. I took her advice second time around and used this book. I suspect that if the first time we were TTC I'd known half of what I learned it wouldn't have taken as long as it did back then. (I hesitate to go on about the book as lots of TTCers on MN are sick of being told to try it, so forgive me if that's you. It's also a bit condescending in its tone, but if you put that to one side there's a lot of really useful info there.)