October 08 - Got ourselves some crying, talking, sleeping (sometimes!) walking, living dolls.

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Well somebody better start the new thread, so might as well be me!

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Hi all, I think I did my last Poppy BF tonight Pops stopped after a few mins then pointed to the door, which is what she does when she wants cows milk. She was happy when DH brought the cup of milk up. I'm gonna do the dont offer dont refuse thing now so i think tonight was the last night because unless I have a bath with her I dont think she'll bother, and I'm gonna keep away from having a bath with her for that reason. I had a little cry, feeling quite sad and emotional about it but I know its better that she's decided for herself that she wants to stop. Am off to bed anyway, just wanted to let you know.

hmm.

What a titch Q is star .

Spending the whole day in the car today, as driving up to Chesterfield to look at a car that we might buy. Ds is having whole day with cm. No idea how she'll get him to sleep!

He'll probably sleep 3 hours for the cm and you'll be . He rarely sleeps that long for us on weekends. cms have secret sleep dust I think.

I have no idea where chesterfield is. I hope you like the car!

HMM sounds like a lovely end to bf. and

Have a good day, myjob! I can't wait to see you again!! Just have to sort out our holiday a bit more... when is best for you?

Hi everyone.
I have been feeling like I'm actually going to fall asleep and desperately need a nap by 12.30 each day this week... I know there have only been 2 days ... I kept thinking today was friday! Not sure why. Walking around in a cloud of hazy sleepiness and my annual review/evaluation meeting is on Friday... lovely.

Oh, btw I looked up where chesterfield is... wow, what a drive!
And I like that word, csws "titch". That's an endearing term, right? I want to use it, butnot in the wrong way!

I certainly think of it as endearing star, yes, for a small thing.

We bought the car. Dh has to drive back up there on Friday to pick it up.

Oh and ds had a lovely day with the cm, and slept for an hour in the buggy .

Hi all, thanks for your kind messages...but Pops BFed tonight!! Only cos she was exhausted and really got herself upset, she'd been at PIL all day and they hadnt managed to get her to sleep. She pointed at my boobs so I couldn't resist. I'm gonna keep on at the dont offer dont refuse tho and I think tonight will be the exception just cos she was so tired and upset [happy]

Oh and got my ocado delivery, so spinach felafel for tea tomorrow yum yum!

There's a small chance I might be in London on Thursday, I'll be working but might be able to meet up at lunch or early teatime if anyone around?

HMM you are doing don't offer/don't refuse... tonight was no exception You didn't offer. But you didn't refuse when she asked. You did it! It will happen on it's own as she's ready.

What channel is one born on? I need to watch it sometime.

I wish I could get an early teatime with you hmm! I prob wouldn't be able to get in until after Q's bedtime, though, by which time, you'll be gone

Channel 4 star. Or channel 4 + 1 if you forget!
I had it on but failed to pay any attention last night - was it really bad? Should I rewatch it or is it just depressing (esp for someone whose friend lost premature triplets - two immediately after birth and one 6 months later)?

Myjob - how sad for your cousin. It must have been a horrible shock. And your friend as well. I suppose that I have been lucky not to experience that, though our friends and my sil had a few early miscarriages, which were very sad.

Naomi must meet M and E - they love nothing more than to colour themselves in . I buy the crayola pens that wipe off easily, and am just thankful that they haven't yet thought about colouring on the walls/floors

Great news about the car CSWS. What is happening about work for Mr CSWS? I just remembered that you are due end of June, for some reason I'd been thinking you were due in April .

We've just had a week in Northumberland visiting my grandmother. We had a lovely time and she loved seeing the great-grandchildren. I want to make the most of it seeing as she is in her late 80s now, but we don't get to see her much and the kids are very tiring for her.

Its warm and sunny here - brilliant!!!! I feel happier already.....

Right ladies, I know I've ben slack but I need some help/advice.

I saw the consultant about my hanging out guts this morning and he told me I have three options....

a) have a hysterectomy now and have the hernia fixed,

b) have the hernia fixed but risk having another hernia in the future if I need further gyn surgery

c) wait a few years and have a hysterectomy and hernia repair at that time.

Now, I don't fancy having a big lumpy belly for another 5 or so years but I also don't want to have two operations when I can have one. But..... thinking about having a hysterectomy is bring back thoughts of having a third baby. I have a feeling that if we did have another one it would be for the wrong reasons but I am also concerned that if I decide to have everything removed that I will then be MISERABLE about having that option removed..... HELP!!!!!

I am not one to give advice on this 50ft. Would pregnancy possibly cause problems with the hernia or another one?
I would just get the hysterectomy and adopt a child if I wanted to expand my family later on. I know that is totally unhelpful for you Sorry.
I think you should do what your heart says. If you feel emotional about it and want to be pregnant again and have another baby, then take that route.

that's a really hard one 50ft because the decision to stop/keep having children is such a personal one and you are having to make such a permanent decision. My first reaction is to want to know what the risk is to you if you were to go for another baby, because at the moment you have two beautiful children and my instinct is to protect what you have with them first.

I may be way off the mark though, but you've been so great with advice for me i didn't want to not give you my thoughts.

Thank you ladies! Helpful and very different views as always which is what I was after.

Pistachio - I think that DH and I are really two children and no more parents! I don't think we'd enjoy having another little monster thrown into the mix. I think wanting another baby is an instinctual thing, a "quick this is my last chance" knee-jerk reaction. So yes what you said does help.

Star - Don't be silly, any advice is welcome and helpful. The surgeon didn't think the hernia would cause any problems in another pregnancy. I don't honestly think I could manage another baby though so that's probably the answer!

KSal - I think I do agree with you. Having M did nearly finish me off anyway without complications. I would have to have a c-section again and because of where the hernia is I suspect I would need a vertical incision. Which is more risky and has a much longer recovery time.

I am fed-up with having to make these life changing decisions!!!

Sorry to be so self-obsessed, especially when I've been AWOL again.

50ft - from everything that you've said in the past, I don't think that you are 100% certain that you don't want any more children. I believe that to have a not-utterly-essential hysterectomy you need to be absolutely 100% sure, so I would not go with having one now, but narrow it to one of the other 2 options.

CSWS - We're going to speak to the gyn consultant again about risks of recurrence, hormonal implications etc etc. As DH said, if the gyn is talking about having a hysterectomy in 10/15 years, then I'll just get the hernia repaired if it's within the next 5 years then we'll have a bit of a think......

Evening all.

50ft - Wouldn't having a hysterectomy mean that you go into premature menopause? If so, there are the side effects of that to consider. A friend of mine had chemo a while ago and has essentially had the menopause as a result and I think the risk of osteoporosis becomes much higher along with other side effects such as, ahem, lack of lubrication. It might be worth finding out whether you would have these problems and, if so, you might want to delay it for a bit longer.

Horrible big decisions to have to make.

Right, off to catch up.