October 09 - Solids and Sitting, 'My Jeans Are Almost Fitting!'

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Brand spanking new thread everyone

ruby I didn't think about rail works -- will need to check my line/s too. Hope there's nothing on mine as I'm hoping to have lunch with a friend in London before meeting up.

fidelma Mmmm, cake. I'll have my camera and lenses with me so will post pictures on our FB group if all agree to it -- even if it's just a picture of the babies bashing each other on the heads in greeting.

HC Wondering if caravan holidays are like ones at home? Where the trailer is parked for the season and you hook up your gas/water and sleep on little bitty beds, pump the loos to flush, etc.? Or is my only experience of campervans (caravans) completely different?

littlepea I must admit, I'd probably (still?) be one of those Americans following you around, asking you to speak so I could listen to your accent. Most Americans seem to be a sucker for a good Irish and/or British accent. I know I was but then I moved here.... Well, I say that but DH can still say certain words in his English accent and I swoon. (Not particularly alluring words, mind you, but something about the pronouncation gets me.) I don't struggle with accents any more (used to have to look at people to understand them) but will admit there are accents in certain parts of the UK that I do need to listen more carefully to understand (or can't understand at all on the telephone).

HT I'm sorry you have another migraine. I get them, too, but only occassionally -- the worst was when I got one at work when pregnant, worked in an office and had a two hour commute home (walking/train/drive) and couldn't take anything stronger than a paracetomol (sp) which didn't touch it. They are rubbish.

HT Not sure if I'm doing well with the weaning or not. I don't feel like I've given Seb much variety, but I know he likes everything I have given him so far (various fruit and fruit combinations, carrots and sweet potatoes). I tried to thaw some of the (normal) potatoes I had made and ended up with a rubbery mess. Not sure what I did or didn't do, but will try again tomorrow and reheat them a different way.

This time last year I still didn't know I was pregnant so definitely wasn't around (didn't even know about MN).

Hope everyone has a good sleep night!

Very random TMI question/s.

Those that are weaning onto solids, have you noticed changes the frequency/colors/smells of your DCs poos?

And when I start to wean from breast milk to formula, is that all going to change again?

scout normal potatoes are not good when nlended, much better just mashed.Don't know why but they turn into a sticky gloop !!!!

fidelma Yeah, had a playdough type potato substance that I thought "I can't give him that" so gave him fruit again because I had some in the 'fridge and he was wailing the house down wanting food as he'd already had his milk and was all "dressed up" waiting (he's already starting to figure out rubber bib on and spoon out means food). Will pitch the potatoes and replace with more sweet potatoes (he likes that, so won't go to waste). Need to do the squash, too, but too tired to think let alone cook.

Off to bed.

G'night!

I'm staying too Fidelma I think it was busier when we were pregnant as some of the mums were on mat leave with no other dc's and were soooo focused on having the baby that it took a lot of their thought space iykwim. So they posted lots.

news flash !!!!!!!*!!!!!!! I have just given F some carrot puree!!!!!! In his reclining chair, in the lounge..He was happy and calm and I just thought lets do it now. He didn't know what to do with it!! Rolled it around his mouth and made gaggy faces and swallowed it I think I have frozen some more in rubbery ice cube trays.
Lets hope he's not too windy/burpy/ or in pain with his poo after this. He didn't cry atall so I think it went ok.

I want to give him wheetabix as apposed to baby cereal and will use normal full fat cows milk. He is 25 weeks on saturday, shall I wait 1 more week so he's exactly 6m?? Dh say's I am being silly and he'll be fine now.

Last night he woke at 12.30 and 3.30 so not many big gaps of sleep inbetween for me.

meet up still don't know dh laughed when I suggested it
He so doesnt want us to all have to go into London. Bums

As I type F is giving me huge big smiles and is sitting in his reclining seat all chilled out. With a full carrotty tummy.

scout Yes def don't puree potato It goes all gluey. Yuk!!
I just mash with milk and when they can have it, butter too.

ht sorry bout your migranes Did you see my thread bout the slings???

I am still not dressed, nothing seems to be getting done these days. Our dishwasher is broken so washing up takes time. Plus the dcs are here needing me all the time! dd is still saying her tummy hurts..on and off..

F has been saying 'dadadadada' which is nice to hear. he has starting to shake his head from side to side too which dd likes! She copies him

Oh and he's almost sitting by himself. Needs propping a bit and he usually ends up forward on his tummy.

This post is very rambly, sorry. I am typing things as I think of them.

i am staying too - these threads have got me through 6 months of sleepless nights

PM - yay for carrot puree. I would give him cows milk in his food - a week won't make any difference IMHO

Hi all! Just marking my place before I catch up properly this evening.

scout while I remember, nearest tube to meet up is embankment. Not many stations are pushchair friendly tho!

meet up - I'm hoping to come. However trains are only every half hour so I'll have to leave before 5 in order to get home for william's bath etc...!

princess my DH laughed when I told him we were meeting up... Then he asked if he could come

Will catch up properly this eve - William is demandingmy attention!

hi everyone!

im not very good at posting, but wanted to let you know im enjoying reading all of yours- especially about weaning. im trying to introduce solid food, but roanna has not eaten a single thing yet, after at least 2 weeks of trying. was kinda hoping to replace at least one breastfeed with a meal soon

anyway...as you were!

Hi everyone

Sorry not doing well at keeping up at the moment. House build just started and moving out of our house next week so everythings a bit busy at the moment.

smallone nice to hear from you againg, sorry you've had such a tough time.

curlimum nice to hear from you again too

scout don't worry too much about tube stations/pushchair. You will be amazed how many offers of help you will get, even in London. I find staring at the steps looking hopeless usually does the trick

glad to hear the weaning is all going well, thanks for the reminder about roasting sweet potato's whole then scooping the middle out princessmel I did this the other night and mashed the sweet potato with grated cheese, it was yum, I ate half of it myself and Amelie wolfed it down, plus not pans/blenders to wash up, genius!

HT sorry to hear about the migrains

ruby hope the sleep training works for you

at HC fidelma calypso littlepea devils igglybuff and everyone else.

So, I did CC for three nights in a row (was doing it for the 11pm feed Amelie had got into the habit of wanting, but still giving her her 4am feed) I was quite successful, but gave up a bit and was still giving in on occasion, then last night she went down at 8pm and slept until 6am, result hope it wasn't a one off, we'll see how she does tonight!

have a good day

Afternoon ladies,

Annalise has learnt to bash things hard and say BWUH BWUH in the last 2 days! Its so different to her usual MO that it seems like I have a new baby!

meetup so I went to the location yesterday with my mum and checked that nothing was going to be on at the Festival Hall at that time so all is ok! Instructions for once at Festival Hall (Waterloo is also close station)

• Facing the hall with the river to your back, go in on the left hand side, aka, the 'blue' side. Go the GLASS elevator further into the main floor (which is actually the second floor, ie the one with the main terrace and cafe area inside)
• Go to the 4th Floor and the Blue Bar is towards the rear of the building.

I hope it'll be ok, its just a carpeted bar space with a few tables and chairs, quiet and easy to chill out and get stuff from the cafe / bar downstairs!

I am most certainly staying on these threads - a n00by mummy like me needs all the advice she can get!

twinkle the house build sounds amazing, keep us updated and don't wander too far!

HT So sorry I won't get to meet you - at least not this time... Maybe another time if you happen to be passing through the big smoke (applies to anyone ) Hope your migraine passes, they really are so awful, I can't imagine stuggling with a baby too.

PM Hope your DH will help out so you can come, will be fun to meet you. I'm looking forward to meeting all that are coming, and meeting Bella again Re:weetabix, I think mind the gluten in the cereal, but at 25weeks maybe its ok?

Smallone hope you're having a good week x

Am I the only one that's finding weaning VERY timeconsuming? Annalise takes about an hour to bf, then another 45mins to solid-feed, so thats around 7hrs a day feeding!! She doesn't want to take solids from my mum so I'm getting zero of my PhD done, for shame, heh. The rest of the time is partially napping, I feel like I'm stuck here... How long does this endless feeding malarky go on for?!

Hi everyone,
enjoying doing nothing today and just watching a DVD while ds2 is napping and the other two are up at their grandparents.

Still having bad nights too but since started blw he seems to sleep a bit better and only wake up once or twice after 10pm feed.Managing to get him down for 3 naps but usually the 2nd nap he wakes up after 20mins and have to go back in to rock him to sleep and hell sleep again for 20mins and rock him again.This way I got him to nap for 2 hs altogether.Bought "this book www.amazon.co.uk/90-Minute-Baby-Sleep-Program-Natural/dp/0761143114/ref=pd_sim_b_12" and seemed to help to know more when to put him down. And youd think as N`s my third it be all easier on sleep front.

Nathaniel really loves strawberry yoghurt,avocado,bread,bread sticks,pepper.Just giving him whatever were having am enjoying doing BLW.Is anyone else doing blw or are you all doing purees?Am amazed every day how great hes managing food and the way he holds it from one hand to other and then sucking on it.

Scout about your question of poo,yes its getting more like normal poo now and seems to be more often now 2-3 times a day which is good as he was once a week before.So this way know that food definitely going down.And it smells more too,which not so good,but can tell when he`s doing one now too.

HT sorry to hear about the migraine,I get them too not had one for a while though.Chocolate and not enough sleep set mine off.Have you tried some ibuprofen you can take that and hopefully take some edge off it.I fell sick with it and can`t get up so just have to lie in dark room and get some sleep.So really feel for you hope it goes soon.

Smallone glad to see you back and sorry to hear youre going through PND,glad though youve got some medication for it.And any time you want to talk come here we`re all here for you.Big hugs for you.

Meet-up looking forward to meeting some off you and to see calypso again.Will still need to check how to get there.

Lots of love to everyone xx

Bella I really wanted to do BLW but F just wont hold the food...! he either doesn't like the feel of it or it's too slippery. I thought I'd try puree and then move onto BLW. I could not try anything atall but in truth I am getting tired now and would like him to sleep for longer than 3 hours in one go again. he was doing 8...!!! [sob]
But yes I know solids may not help atall...

Also dh is terrified of F choking!!

Will post more later

Evening all!

Bella I wanted to BLW too, but like princessmel's F, Sebby just won't hold the food. He'll hold toys, clothes, his rubber bib, etc., and put all of that in his mouth but when it comes to food he won't touch it. But, in the short time we've been weaning, he has quickly figured out that getting his rubber bib on and the spoon coming out means food and he'll lean forward with his mouth open and his arms back like a baby bird, even if I haven't gotten his pot of food out yet. It's really sweet.

princessmel I know what you mean about wanting more than three hours at a go. And I know solids aren't the end-all-be-all, but there's hope -- Seb has slowly increasing his sleep since he's been weaning. He's waking up once around the time I go to bed (so usually about 10-10:30) then not again until around 2 a.m. and again around 5 a.m., but can pop his dummy in and get another 30-75 minutes. However, he's taken to getting up for the day at stupid o'clock in the morning. [yawning face] I'm sure part of it has to do with the time he goes down (like tonight, it's 6:45 and he's asleep) but he's so tired that if I try to keep him up he's cranky then I can't get him down. And other nights, if we're out and he doesn't get into his bed until late, he's still up at stupid o'clock. I think I have a morning bird.

Calypso Thanks for the more detailed directions for Sunday. Feel like I should have a badge that says "Mine name is S but you can call me Scout." LOL

I know the tube isn't pushchair friendly, but I know some stations are easier to manuever around than others. For someone who doesn't live in London, Seb's become a seasoned traveller to London/Underground rider (third trip and he's only five months).

Today Seb bashed himself on the nose/in the face/on the forehead with his frog rattle so hard that he made himself cry not just once but three times in the space of six minutes! You'd think the silly boy would have learned. LOL While we've been "playing" peek-a-boo for a few weeks, today he really seemed to get it. Every time I hid he started talking like he was trying to call me or say "peak-a-boo" because whenever I came out I'd say "peak-a-boo" and he'd laugh but just watch me.

Talked to the clinic nurse at the hospital yesterday regarding starting my treatments for the blood issue and now have a date. She was really friendly and helpful and reassuring (I met her at the specialist appointment I had just after Seb's birth). She's also said that if weaning doesn't go to plan, or if I'm not happy or comfortable, I can call her and postpone the start. Seb's 24 weeks and I always said at 26 I'd start to wean him to formula. I didn't think it would bother me, as I've been saying all along that was the plan (knowing I need to do this other thing) but now that it's upon me I'm sad about it and more than a bit nervous about the treatments. Though I think I'm more worried that I can't handle them AND taking care of my baby/family at the same time. Talked to one of the HV's at the Wednesday weigh clinic/family support clinic to get some advice on the best way to do it (wean to formula that is) she was very supportive and helpful as well and I could have cried with relief when I left. I had thought I should wait until I return from the States because of the travel chaos, but she said starting in the States would make sense because there will be other people there during the day to help me (whereas here I'm alone during the day). Mom and Dad are brilliant and Dad's an expert baby feeder (and the proudest Grandpa you've ever met), so they've said "of course we'll help!"

All of this weaning to food and weaning to formula (in a cup!), and sitting (he's getting better at it!) and playing with toys and streams of chatter make me feel like I no longer have a baby but a proper little boy. He's always had a personality, but it's becoming more and more distinct as the hours go by. I can't believe he'll soon be half-a-year old! And to think, this time last year I still didn't know I was pregnant....

(Sorry for the ramble, but have kept a lot of these thoughts bottled up for a while now and they've just exploded out.... Thank you for "listening.")

Hi all

Scout-lol at your caravan image. We tow ours behind the car and have all the facilities (or I wouldn't go). The girls sleep in bunk beds.

Twinkle-always interested to hear how your building is going. Can't believe we have lived in ours for 10 years.

Hope lots keep posting as we did on my July 06 thread for years but now there are just 3 of us who post once a week.

Matthew knows when it is food time when he has his bib put on too. Also, if I wipe his chin at any time during feeding he cries as he thinks that it has all gone. He still struggles to poo so I am still helping him to go. Sucked/kissed his fingers today then got a funny taste in my mouth. When I undressed him for the bath I noticed he had wiped his hand across his nose so I obviously tasted his bogies. Ew!

M ready for bed so better try and feed him so he doesn't wake so many times.

Big wave!

HC
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hc and scout F would think it was dinner time all day long, he wears a bib constantly as he is sooooooo dribbly!!

princessmel Seb does, too, but I put a big rubbery bib (with lip) over his dribble bib when it's time for food.

HC Yes, the camper weekend I went on had all of the facilities. It was towed to the camp and parked for the summer. But we (my friends and I) ended up sleeping outside because we got so hot inside.

Stupid telemarketing phone call during the debates woke up Sebby.

I've wanted to ask -- those that are weaning and/or have weaned in the past, when did you start introducing foods like yogurts and proteins like chicken and fish?

Ha, M wears a bib all the time too but I put a big plastic one on at mealtimes to try and keep him clean ish.

Scout-I have already given M fromage frais and icecream. He will be having pureed roast turkey on Sunday and he had pork in his HIPP jar tonight.

HC
x

princessmel Nathaniel`s quite dribbly too had stopped for a bit but started a lot again last week.So maybe some teeth soon?
Used to get 6-7 hours at night too such a distant memory now get 2-3hours when lucky.

Scout chicken and fish are fine from 6 months and so is yoghurt.They can have mostly everything once they`re are 6 months old just no honey till 1 year and obviously no nuts.Not so sure about eggs in my BWL book it says ok from 6m but have read 8m somewhere else.
Fish and chicken are easier to digest than pork and beef so best to give first.

Will definitely keep posting on here and try to post more.Its great place for advice and to hear what other babies same ages are learning new.

HC lol at bogey tasting.

Meeting my friends for our usual friday coffee tomorrow morning we`ll have all our older kids there this time probably be manic.
Off to bed now before N wakes up.xxx

HC thanks I was taking a drink of my coffee, which almost went everywhere! The thought of you tasting M's bogies will have me laughing all day now lol....

Bella good luck with your new book, I hope you get a good nights sleep soon.

Twinkle glad to hear from you! Exciting about the house!!

Curlimum keep close & keep posting, its good to hear from you too.

Scout good to know you have your mum & dads support with Seb's weaning. When are you heading back to the US?? Knowing the treatment has a date must be pretty scarey, but it will be easlier with Seb being this young, I think it would be harder if he was older. All ready for support at this end ramble all you want, its what we are here for xx

The thought of getting train/underground tube etc, fills me with dread! I did it once, but cant really remember it (i was sobber going in....cant remember coming back was about 12 years ago, but i woke up in the morning with a tattoo!! Oh the shame . Im so worried about getting onto the wrong train that i just stay well away from them.

How are you giving bread? Are you just breaking some off as finger food?? I tried to give Faith a rusk, it ended up on the floor mashed in!

Forgot to say, I bought Faith some of those bibs that have the arms in them, they cover everything! She wipes her arms across her face just as i have put spoon into her mouth, so all the arms of her clothes got dirty, these are great!

Hi all, I did post yesterday but dd deleted it and I couldn't be bothered to retype it!

DH is working away for 3 days, unfortunately he's just having to take whatever he's offered at the mo. Coping ok tho, I'm getting the kids in bed for 8 and then I'm in bed for 9! Looking forward to having him at home for the weekend tho.

We're doing BLWing too, I give everything from 6 months except salt and honey. I give nuts as there is no history of nut allergy in our family and I think there is definitely something in the theory that it is the lack of exposure to nuts that is causing the massive increase in allergy.

It took George about 2 weeks to get the hang of holding his food and putting it in his mouth but he's going great guns now. I started putting yogurt on a weaning spoon and giving that to him to feed himself which seemed to show him the way.

Um.. can't remember what else I was going to write.. oh yes I give bread cut in fingers, either sandwiches or toast.

The choking thing is no more of an issue than with purees, they're more likely to inhale liquids than choke on a solid. If you give food to them in a chunk big enough to NOT choke on then they will only be able to chomp off pieces when they are developmentally able to eat it without choking. There is a bit of gagging at the beginning but both of mine have just gagged the food back into their mouths and chewed it a bit more and then swallowed it happily, no drama.

If you're worried about egg, the yolk is less allergenic than the white so you can start with that. DD came out in hives after her first egg but has been fine ever since so still not sure if it was the egg or not. Tho I've heard this about strawberries aswell, you can have a one-off reaction.

Have to share that Tesco Finest cottage pie has made Matthew's pooing very easy and he has had my homemade spag bol for lunch so waiting for another explosion. He's having a jar for tea so should solidify things hopefully.

Have a lovely day all. Have managed to delete my speakers on my laptop so have no sound.

HC
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Tried F with some puree again today and he was not keen. Again he didn't know what to do. And didn't enjoy it. I don't think he is ready for BLW or puree tbh. I am giving him bits of toast, fruit, veg to hold but he just screws it up into nothing and drops it! Oh well he'll get the hang of it one day.

Dd is poorly atm. She's been complaining of tummy ache for days (but has been going on since before then) and hasn't eaten hardly anything since saturday. A nibble of this and that but nothing major Her poo has been pale, frothy and slimy too. She's been sleepy and floppier than usual. I'm glad it's been the holidays as I don't think she would have been up to going to school.
I took her to the docs and they said it was a phase and due to emotional reasons! She was implying that it was because of ds2 being around.
That wouldn't explain the throwing up and poo though.

Right now I have 5 seconds of peace!!! dd is asleep Under a blanket and ds2 is up in his cot. Ds1 is out with a friend.
I am having a cuppa and a biscuit

Mel keep an eye on her, sounds like the doc hasnt got a clue what is wrong with her, but it sounds like she has sound sort of bug. If she is no better on Monday, I would take her back. Sorry but its a load of blaming it on the baby being about poor child isnt well

I am littlepea . She is just not right. Everyone agrees with me.

She is generally a shy-ish girl and is prone to napping, but this is out of character. The not eating is not normal either. Again she isn't a huge eater but deffo eats more than a cm sized piece of sandwich. No joke.

Also the constant moaning about her tummy pain. The GP said that emotional issues can cause real pain, but I don't think she has issues. She adores ds2 and is so happy to sit and cuddle him and hold his hand etc etc.