june09 Weaning the babies and shifting the Mummy Tummy!!!

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Here it is, Juners! New thread!!

Meant to tell you something funny, I've run out of breast pads and am not going to the shops today so have been using sanitary towels cut in half I look a bit of a funny shape but they are working well

Yes, long way from Europe and families. It's also more expensive (relatively...pun!!) to buy airline tickets in NZ on NZ incomes that to buy on UK incomes unless things have changed recently.

mrsmcjnr - I love photography so try and take pictures to clear my head of children stuff. Also have started a regular Scrabble nights with a couple of neighbours (always at my house). Includes a glass of wine or two. Helps me get my mind off children and my nightmarish 'to do' list. Going off to read sounds blissful. Food for the soul and all that. DH has been great since F turned 4 months. He is not a baby man and it brings out the worst in him - just can't cope with crying. Our sex life is slowly coming back from the dead, and his acid 'Scorpio' comments are very rare. It's one of the best times for us. He adores his son (I think he was worried he might struggle to love him because he is so besotted with our daughter).

How did your DH enjoy his trip back to Scotland. Raving about how great it was, or quite happy to be back?

Hi all!

Mrsmc, well, sometimes you just have to make do Better to use those than soak your top Glad to hear DS's birthday was nice and that you'll get some Mrsmc time later this week Ouch, if only DS waited just one more day to be born!

Effie, glad to hear you'll be able to go on BFing and stop when you wish to do it We emigrated two years ago because of my studies/career as I had no way of furthering my studies in Argentina. There are no MAs or PhDs in my field there so I always knew I was going to have to go abroad to do that. Added to that was the fact that Tom's family was giving us a really hard time there, I had spent a year and a half crying almost every other day because of them so it wasn't a hard decision to make for us. As many have already said, it's hard, you have to think and consider every single thing so that the transition goes as smoothly as possible. You need to think about all the "formal" stuff like visas, credit, property, employment, schools, etc and then you have to get used to everything in the new place, as others have also mentioned already, so you have to do your research You also have to consider the little things as well; for us for example, going from the capital, a huge metropolitan city to a tiny town was quite a big change and shock. Not having the tube, hundreds of buses readily available 24/7 was quite a big change It may sound silly but it was

June, hope you feel better soon

Venetian, hi! Sounds like NZ's humour is similar to ours, we had to get used to that quickly

Hi to all Juners!

Right, not a good night last night, up 6 times... day routine is working like clockwork, though so I guess she needs a bit more time, as Venetian mentioned a few days ago.

I got an email with a link to Sainsbury's little ones club and I got some recipes from there that looked quite good. There was a mild fish curry that was yum and a beetroot + pear + apple puree that M loved. It helped with my lack of inventive in the recipe department

M crawled or crept forward today for the first time on a not so cool note she has started - what's the word! - doing the mouth movement like when they blow raspberries when she doesn't want/like the food I offer It made me giggle on the inside but

Waves!!!

Hi girls, it is so chilly outside! Not great Australia Day weather!Should be having a BBQ at the beach, listening to the radio count down the hottest 100 songs of last year and eating pavova/lamingtons/steak and drinking beer! We have managed to swim today (indoor pool obviously) and I will head out for some Aussie beer (not Fosters!) to have with our lamb chops later. Sadly, no BBQ, just the oven .

Australia Day, also known as invasion day, celebrates the arrival of the first fleet into Sydney.For the Aboriginal people, it may be called invasion day, as it is when white man started to colonise their land.

As June remembered, I am an Aussie, married to a Brit. Lived in UK since 04 but had a year back in Sydney for DH to 'test the waters' about a long term move home. A is a dual citizen- two passports, lucky boy!

Effie We used to have huntsmen spiders in our letterbox- lovely surprise when you unrolled the mail!DH got used to the spiders eventually. Just have to be careful! Huntsmen don't bite .It is the redbacks and funnel webs that kill you

I moved to the UK, travelled lots, lived in England,Scotland and Wales until I met DH. ATM our life is here although we havent decided where we will live when we grow up.

It is a long way and quite expensive to do the trip very often. Saying that, I try and get home every year. It can be hard when parents are unwell, however, I have done a mercy dash a few times and it is just a long way of spending a day.

Skype is a godsend- video calls several times a week to my parents and best mates. They can see A and his progress. Email when the time diff doesn't suit. I love Perth and Sydney- sunshine, beaches, good food and coffee! Melbourne is more European, Adelaide is small and boring, Darwin is full of nutters! (Just gross generalisations).

venetianred great name change! I love hearing your advice, it gives me hope that A will one day discover routine!
Are you and DH both kiwis? I agree, it is alot of stress to emigrate, but I guess it depends on your personality and outlook about the whole process. I was already a bit of a nomad before I met DH so settling here wasn't such a big deal-used to moving and making new friends.

mrsmac love the new breast pads! very creative! Lovely that DS enjoyed his birthday. Sorry A still a sleeping nightmare. No advice- A is a sleeping nightmare too. MIL came again this week to help for a night- he was great for her- stayed in his cot all night, no crying! No night feeds required, he takes 250ml at 730pm. Try to use patting and shushing when he wakes but after complaints from neighbours downstairs, I can't let him make too much noise and instead get him and settle him on me

june Great C so happy! How you feeling?

gauchita How is M's sleeping? How often do you get back to Argentina?

bigcar Don't let your DH watch Phil's downunder relocations! DH has been looking up jobs in Perth after last weeks! Glad DD1s interviews going well. Does she have any more?

whenskies You poor thing! That must have been so stressful , You ok now?

welcome arcanemummy

strawberry how you doing? How is the return to work planning going? I have decided to go back and started looking for jobs. Not sure how good I will feel when we have to take A to nursery. Looking at two this week

For those of you who know about nursery/childminder etc, what questions should I be asking the nursery when we visit this week? Thanks for any suggestions.

Right, this is mammoth. Apologies. Will. stop.writing.now

thnks for that Sam we'll be looking at nurseries this year I think so it'd be nice to hear from the Juners experiences. (please )
One of the mums I meet in RL said a friend of hers went to visit a nursery and they charge you £50 per extra 15 minutes if you are late picking up your kid.

Also some of them will have a charge just for going on the waiting list, then if you do get on but they can accomodate the day or half day you want then that's tough, they don't give you your money back.

C's sleeping and it's dinner time for us, so speak to you soon!

Just a short note. Sorry to have been off the radar for a bit. Sadly, my FIL passed away last night and it's all been a bit raw. Still in shock really. I am around and reading your messages. Hopefully I'll post again soon xx

gauchita I've decided my new online name would be a good name for a red wine. Hello I'll have a bottle of Venetian Red. I'm glad the routine is working really well during the day. I'm sad to hear that it isn't working so well at night. Can I ask 'are you feeding her at night'. If so, except for just 'sitting it out', which many people do choose to do, I would say that these are your options:

(I always feel uncomfortable saying these sorts of things, but it is a considered opinion after 4 years of speaking with friends and fellow mums)...

1. giving her 8oz of formula at bedtime. Sadly, it seems to help alot, but I know it's not for everyone. I knew I didn't have enough breastmilk at the end of the day to give F which is why I was doing so much expressing, so I would give a bottle of expressed milk, but even so, I had to switch to formula before he ever slept through the night. I know the health visitors and reading material says it should be just the same with breastmilk, but for some reason formula fills them up a little more (stronger curding or something).

1. this may be a better bet for you. If you are feeding her at night, you may want to consider slowly cutting back, so that she gradually takes more at breakfast and then during the day, which should cut down on how much she needs during the night. This can be quite tough, and means taking the extra 30mins-1 hour to cuddle her back to sleep (instead of feeding instantly and knowing she will fall immediately back to sleep). At first decide you will not feed after 4am, then 3am, then 2am etc. The idea is that waking up to feed is a very strong urge. I fed F last week once at 4am (for the first time in weeks) when he seemed hungry and he woke the following two mornings at 4am hoping for a repeat, so I just had to completely stop. On the fourth morning he slept through the night again and has since. Sometimes it doesn't work and there is no option, and to be honest, I did do quite a bit of co sleeping to get him back to sleep, which you may not be happy with, but it is an option.

The difficulty with breastfeeding is that you physically may not be able to give enough milk to M during the day, in which case she will take it during the night, although now they are eating so much this shouldn't be such an issue (seemingly only need just over 20oz) - although it often is apparently at the last feed - the evening feed, when it seems our bodies are tired and struggle to produce enough, and that is the important one for a good night sleep, which is why a number of breastfeeding mums will give just one bottle of formula, and that is the one just before bedtime.

But I should add that I know no mums who entirely breastfeed after 6 months so I have no idea of what their experiences are. Is anyone helping with good ideas from your other post on the 'sleep' site?

Congrats M on crawling.

snow - I am a kiwi who has been here 15 years, he a Brit. He wants us to move out there sometime soon but I worry that the country might drive him nuts at times, although he does get sick easily here and I think the quality of life would be better for him out there. I'm actually really happy here in Manchester and have no desire to go anywhere soon.

Ineedmore - sorry to hear about FIL.

Hi all!

June, so so sorry for your loss ((hug))

Strawberry, thanks for sharing your experience Hope L is sleeping a bit better?

June, I've heard places are a really competitive thing at nurseries in certain areas, and Lord are they expensive!

Snow, I haven't gone back since arriving here 2 years ago; DH was there last November for a wedding (just 6 days). We're planning on going this year so that all our friends can meet M Sooo cheeky of A to behave with grandma Hope you've been able to rest a bit?

Venetian, it sounds like a great name for red wine I didn't know NZers were known as kiwis Thank you again for your advice and support (I, like Mrsmc said she feels, am quite philosophical about it, but there are days - like last Wednesday - when exhaustion takes the best of me and I vent rant) Oh, I definitely do lots of co-sleeping Yesterday after the 6th time at 3.30 I just brought her over and co-slept. Our HV suggested the second option you mentioned but with DH going for the cuddle and that didn't work AT ALL, she just screamed and cried. I think it's a good idea to try that (together with more milk in the morning and during the day + solids so that she doesn't need as much at night). We can only try, right? This is a trial and error thing with babies Otherwise, formula is always an option, I was just hoping to bypass it and go from BM to cow's milk but we'll see Again, thank you for taking the time to write all this (I don't want to make you uncomfortable, though ).

Have a good night ladies!

Argh, my brain!! Sorry, that was meant to be Ineed not June

ineed I am so sorry about your FIL. You must be so sad. How is your DH coping?you? Thinking of you and your family.

gauchita - also, when they start to take less during the night, then you tend to wake up with more, which starts the day quite well.

It just took me so long to get my head around the complexities of breastfeeding. I feel like I could take a degree in the subject, imagine PhD in Human Lactation (because if it was to be a PhD it couldn't have a normal name like Breastfeeding!!).

I am now producing and all time low of 5oz per day. DH is desperate for me to stop completely, but I wanted to continue during the thick of winter to try and ward off some coughs and colds, not that 5oz is likely to do much good but I could always bump it up to 10oz within a day or two. That is one of the benefits of expressing - you can increase production (quite handy for me whose body never seems to produce quite enough).

Hi all!

Venetian, yes, it is a complex matter, especially as you're always wondering how much they're taking, unless you express. I don't seem to have any problem producing it as I still get engorged and leak, so the times I have expressed in the past either to store some or to let DH feed her, I've ended up even more engorged as I've stimulated the production even more... Oh, the name would definitely be something like that, not PhD in BFing, no no I bet there's something out there in the subject...
I'm sorry you're finding it hard at the moment to get your ounces for F's day, I think you mentioned you top him up at night with formula, right? I can understand why your DH wants you to wrap it up, mine has had to forget I have boobs, bless him, as I leak so he cannot even come close

Guess what? Yesterday she woke up at 1.30, fed and went straight back to sleep. Then she woke up again at 3.40 but as I had been able to have some hours of sleep I thought I'd try to cuddle her and give her the dummy without feeding to see how she reacted. She didn't seem to be hungry as she didn't scream for milk (as she does if I don't feed her quickly after waking ) but she didn't want to lie in my arms either, she was wide awake So, I sat her on my lap and quietly closed my eyes (all of this on the rocking chair) so when she turned around she saw I was "sleeping", she was quiet, just looking at everything, every single toy, etc. With the minutes she started coming closer to me and she ended up lying down so I gave her her dummy and she fell asleep. All of this took about 40 mins... BUT I moved her too quickly to her cot and she woke up immediately and then started crying I guess she got hungry after that and she fed and went back to sleep So it's definitely something of a habit sometimes for them, indeed... Oh this got long, sorry!

M is sleeping now so I'll get some lunch, loads to do around so I'd better go

Ineed, thinking of you all...

Waves to all Juners!

afternoon all

ineed, so sorry to hear about your fil ((((hugs)))) you will be in our thoughts.

skies, blimey, you've had an eventful few days, hope C and the car are fully recovered. I have to admit to doing the same, I always drop my keys over the drivers seat, although my car is a huge heap and not all the doors lock on the central locking even if I stand there pressing the button! Your poor dss, a not so memorable birthday party then, just as it should be at his age, I'm sure you won't let him forget it though When is he off to the Falklands?

june, hope you're feeling better. One of the after school clubs here charges £1 a minute if you're late collecting, apparently people are now much better with their time keeping. I don't think it's that uncommon now.

venetian, lovely name change Wonder how many men would sign up for that course

effie, lovely you can bf a little longer, how are you getting on without your dh?

MrsMcJnr, bet your looking forward to saturday, sounds lovely! Being able to sit down with a good book is something I really miss. Interesting new breast pads there, I would never have thought of that, genius

gauchita, congrats to M on crawling E has taken to heaving when I give him something he doesn't like you'd think I was trying to poison him. How's the sleep going?

snow, will watch out for that program so as to avoid it Dd1s had her last interview now, the Chichester one have told her she was unsuccessful, nothing else, just unsuccessful but she has 2 really good offers already and she did say that it had been a joint interview and she barely managed to get a word in edgeways so I don't think she's too bothered.

For nurseries I would also ask about qualifications of the staff, one of the ones near me ran mainly on unqualified staff and trainees, not ideal. If you can, before you let them know you're there, look through the window and see if the staff are interacting with the children or just standing around chatting while the children run riot. Look at the ages of the staff as well, you ideally want a range of age, experience, energy etc. In some cases the nurseries that use church halls have to pack everything away at the end of the day for the next user of the hall, this can sometimes mean they are not as well equipped as those that have their own premises and one with outside space I would have to say would be a must. Like strawberry I also have one thing about nurseries that's a real bugbear for me and that is modelling appropriate language, same reasons as strawberry with spelling I think most of the nurseries now run on the key care system where one person is mainly responsible for your child, keeping records, setting targets, knowing the childs likes and dislikes etc, ime this works well and is another must have

we had an interesting morning spent up on the childrens ward with dd3, she had to have some blood taken for some tests the geneticist mucked up last time. Thankfully she was an absolute star, magic cream worked a treat and she didn't make a fuss at all, just sat there and let them get on with it the staff are all so lovely on paeds in and out patients both. The lot over on maternity could learn a thing or two from them! E has got his follow up hearing test on saturday, only community audiology here recently failed an inspection so we've got to trog all the way over to Roehampton. Pain in the backside, normal audiology passed ok so why they can't do it I don't know?!

I've also decided to get a copy of my maternity notes, sent off the paperwork last week. I've just got no idea what happened really during Es birth other than the very basics that dh told me and he won't talk about it now. I was fine with everything at the start, just glad we were both alive I think but I can't get it out of my head now.

waves to all

Hello.

...........and then there were 3.........in the bed and the little one said- feed me!!! My DD went away with the school today and won't be back til fri- when DH comes home!!! OMG do I miss them! I love my DSs, but Imi is my lil buddy!! She will have a great time- I managed not to cry- but had an inward blub- if that makes sense!! hehe

Ineed So sorry to hear about your FIL- sending lots of love to you and your family! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

MrsMc Lol- love the make do breast pads!!

Thank-you all for more of the emigrating stories- I've joined the britishexpats forum. I have spent alot of time reading blogs- some great and some not so great. Each of the countries sound great! Australia is the fav at the mo- if it wasn't for those spiders- perhaps I could get hypnotised or something!! lol I think we need to see where has the best work opportunties for DH ( ITnetwork specialist for domino/microsoft/ exchange and blackberries- he has a degree in town planning and a post grad in urban planning ) I'm going to do my return to nursing- so as long as there is a SCBU- then I should be ok x

We are using the phase " we can always come home if it doesn't work" and "if we don't try- we won't know" So I think thats good!!!

snow with my current "sillybrain" Darwin sounds like the best place for me!! lol spiders in letter boxes yuk!! are there areas of Australia where they are not as common??? or in citys/ towns less likely to have them than in the country???

Righty- Rup the poop- is smelly- so pegs on noses time xxx

Have a good evening all xxx

bigcar how did you get the paperwork to fill in for your maternity notes?
(Was it you whose scar ruptured?) I want my notes too I think. I made a copy of everything up till the birth.

C's cold is not much better but it's ok-ish. she just has a blocked nose and is really unsettled, crying a lot. We've raised her bed etc, just waiting for it to pass I think. My voice is going (it always does when I have a cold and I always sound much worse than I am).

Work has been very hard on us and at the end of Monday I just could not beleive that it was still only monday. It's getting better now.

mil came over for the first time this year this pm (called from outside the house again, and just as C was about to go to bed, ffs). sil is here now which is actually welcome as I have a deadline on some work (tonight being the deadline!).

I haven't been able to catch up properly on the posts (dh is going to think I am taking the piss, really supposed to be doing some work) but wanted to say: ineed so sorry {{hugs}}

Hello!

Am lost ladies, lost I tell you - no chance of working out who is who (some name changes?) and what is what. June is the great re-uniter and found me banging on about ante natal classes and suggested I come back and say hello.

But what I have managed to see:

Ineed - so sorry to hear about your FIL, that's really sad news. I hope you and your lovely family are OK and can take some time to grieve. xxx

MrsMcJnr - my God you are fab looking after 2 children w no outside help and effectively no sleep and still being upbeat about it. I would really struggle. I have 1 child, a hands on DH who is really supportive (although he does work long hours), a cleaner, a babysitter and still I complain about how hard it is. You are a lady Atlas, my friend and don't you forget it.

Delie Delicious is 7.5 months' old now and started pulling herself to standing on the weekend and then crawling yesterday. Good God, baby on the move! She is also a bit Miss Grabby with the toys and other babies, which I am not encouraging, but she also really likes other babies and seeing people and going places. Prob the biggest issue I have is making sure she doesn't get bored as there have been a couple of tantrums that disappear when we leave the house/people come over. Yelling while kicking toys is not attractive behaviour that mummy wants to see.

I have to say I am v inspired by the amazing variety of food you ladies are serving up! I really need to introduce a few more, as have been a bit worried about whether she is ready, but some of your babes are already eating what you eat so Delie can definitely eat more than she does. I have started cooking her more meals from Annabel Karmel's recipe book, but also give her Plum Baby and Hipp Organic (although have to watch the former for ridiculous amounts of fruit added to some savoury meals and the latter for added salt - WTF?!?!).

As for me, am hitting the cross trainer (hired one that is in Delie's room) most mornings but still have a tractor sized spare tyre. The rest is back to normal/manageable, but not the bloody mummy tummy . Will keep at it...

Have to run as Delie is napping and have much housework to do before we head out to see a mummy friend who had the worst labour I know - needs reconstructive surgery, has post traumatic stress disorder and is seeing a psychologist - really upsetting to see such a stoic girl so shaken by the whole thing. . On that happy note...

Hi all!!!

Bunny, so nice to hear from you Glad to hear D is thriving. We have those kicking toys and screaming episodes too Well done on the exercise front! I haven't touched my pilates dvd for 2 months now My only exercise these days is walking

Strawberry, hope L starts sleeping better soon. I have no words of wisdom, unfortunately, as M is not sleeping great either.

June, sorry to hear you're having so much work these days, on top of a cold Hope you're feeling better.

Effie, hi! Not long for DH and DD to come back

Bigcar, yes, it's like we're feeding them rocks! Although I'm sure if I did, she'd grab it and put it straight into her mouth

Hi to all Juners!

Sunny day here and quiet. I started a thread asking for advice on the multilingual household front (when both parents speak the same language but not the one from the country they're living in ) as I'm wondering what the best approach for M is

Hope you have a nice day, ladies!

Waves!!!

afternoon ladies

effie, Rup the poop still makes me laugh Have you had any update on the school trip?

june, yep, that was me I think the paperwork was specific to my hospital. I rang medical records at the hospital and they sent me a request form, that was after they asked if I was planning on legal action or official complaints The form asks a few personal questions then the rest is about why you want the notes, guess a lot of people ask for legal reasons rather than just on a need to find details! It's cost me £25 so far but if there is over 100 pages they can charge up to £50 to copy them. I think it varies by hospital trust, if you don't get anywhere ring PALS and they should point you in the right direction. I'm hoping I'll be able to fill in some rather large blanks I have of that day along with some time scales, we'll see what happens!

strawberry, sorry to hear L isn't happy maybe moving to the cot would be a good thing for her, she may like the bit of extra space. I haven't used this but have heard good things from others. I think someone may have mentioned her earlier on the thread.

bunny, lovely to see you back Good to hear everythings going well, hope your friend is ok. naat changed to gauchita and daisy changed to venetianred

gauchita, that's a hard one, hope someone has some good ideas for you. It's absolutely freezing here, oh and grey, again!

E is 8 months old today time is just vanishing way too quickly! He's had a few grumpy days and disturbed nights, think it might be teeth again. At least he's eating veg a bit happier now, doesn't like meat it seems so just concentrating on fruit and veg for now and will try introducing meat slowly again soon, not had a fussy eater before so it all seems a little strange I'm used to not being able to shovel food in fast enough without screaming, E likes to take his time and taste it all, that must be where the problem lies

waves to all

hey bunny ;) gauchita is naat, skies is worriedamy (no longer worried ;) venetian red is daisy, did anyone else change?
How did you go about finding a babysitter, did someone recommend her?

venetian it does sound like a nice bottle of wine doesn't it, I can actually picture it (!): Very dark with a dark inverted red triangle to the right and a orangy circle somewhere) kinda likes the ones from Australia / NZ actually, I might just be thinking of an actual bottle here??

Effie just had a thought, your NZ friend might be afraid that you will ask her if you can stay at hers until you find a place.

The minute I pressed "post message" yesterday dh called me as C had vomitted all her dinner. I took her with me upstairs and she vomitted some more (spaghetti bolognese). After that she was fine.
I think we're going to keep the meat/fish for lunchtime.
She is getting better, still got a runny nose which is annoying. dh has taken her to a rhyme time group (he's going to keep her away from the other kids) as she enjoys it so much and I am so tired. My cold is getting better I think.

I have to wash my hair, I look like I have an overgrown birds nest up there.

The other day that I had to get up quickly to answer the phone, just threw something on over my nightie and never got round to getting changed as work/baby combo was really hectic. Then our bookeeper came by to pick up some paperwork and discuss a couple of things and I was still wearing my nightie under my jumper.... I don't think he noticed, if he did he didn't dare say. (maybe my hair is that scary!).

better get going then...take care juners!

Hi All

I spent ages writing a msg- only for Rupert to press a button and delete the whole thing!! lol

Bunny nice to hear from you again- Delie is soo beautiful x

Strawberry It was me who recommended the Elizabeth Pantley book- the no cry sleep solution!! I don't do the CC method- I tried with Flynn, after ppl said "I had to to get him sleeping" I tried and failed and it made him almost scared of bedtime!! So i bought that book and it made so much sense- unfortunatly- F was pulling himself up- so it made it more difficult when Rupert moves into his own room- I'll apply some of the principles then well worth a look x

June You may have a point there-- if we do decide NZ- then we will move somewhere other than Auckland!!!

DD and DH will be home tomorrow and I've really missed them, especially the conversation and the fact DH does all the morning stuff- ie brekkie and brings me tea in bed!!! lol- Hes jsut phoned to say hes in selfridges!!! hummm-- I want to go there!!

I have a couple of friends coming tonight for wine and nibbles- so looking forward to that!! Flynns asleep- so he will be up later than usual!! Rupert has a girlfriend called Dulcie and they make googly eyes and smile at each other all the time-- its so sweet!!

Hope you are all well?

ove me xx

hey gauchita dh took babe to a group this pm and then shopping so i had lots of time to catch up with work. not enough time to wash my hair though.
re: multilingualism, that's an interesting one isn't it. dh did not speak english when he started school even though he was born here as he was mainly brought up by his greek grand-ma and his parents talked to eachother in greek as well.
The closest school to us prides itself on having a lot of bilingual kids in there so it's perfect.

I only speak french to C, dh speaks english to her. I have one good french friend here who has a 7mo son who I met via NCT classes (what are the odds out of 5 couples?). She also only talks to him in French and her dh in english.

Really sorry to hear your ils were tormenting you You really made the right move you know, life is too short! I hope you're ok now. Are you here permanently or are you planning on going back to Arg?

bigcar gosh it sounds really bad. Are the blanks because you passed out? (sorry to bring it up, I'm scared of the same thing happening to me next).

I think I want my notes too, I need to find out why the first team made me wait so long now that I have read the implications of baby's heartbeat slowing down and what could have happened.
They actually handed me over to another team who then made the decision to have an emrgcy c-section which makes me think the first team just wanted to keep their numbers of sections low or something.

I keep thinking that if that had not happened and I had a good experience we would be trying for number 2 now. I just can't bring myself to it. I thought I had closure about the whole experience but now I realised I don't. I don't keep thinking about it but everytime dh says he is ready for n.2 I smiled at the thought, and then shudder!

Right, C's still sleeping, the choices are: tea, dinner or washing my hair??
Nevermind, babe just woke up!

Hi all!

June, glad you managed to catch up on work (how're you feeling by the way?) but sorry you're still on a standby appointment with your hair. Can you squeeze in some time maybe and ask DH to feed C her dinner? I only know couples with one language each, so they do OPOL (one parent, one language) like you describe, but I'm not sure what the approach is in a situation like ours How nice that you found a French-speaking mum at the group!
The ILs thing was awful and I'm still not over it as every time DH mentions the trip to Argentina I can't help but feel great anxiety My family is not there so I don't have their support available if things get nasty. Really trying not to think about it too much for the moment... Sorry you're feeling like that about C's birth (your birth story made me so for you, the latina emotions come out immediately, sorry) but you're right, maybe having your notes will help you get some answers or have some sort of closure.

Effie, bigcar mentioned rup the poop but I must say your "poobags!" interjection the other day made me Such a great alternative to a swear word! I've jotted that one down Hope you have a great time tonight with your friends.

Bigcar, ohhh I so jinx myself every time I post it's sunny! Clouds flooded the sky soon after I posted Happy 8 months, E! Nice to hear E's enjoying his veg more I'm soooo bad at starting threads! Not only did I not get any advice but the only poster that answered called me "naughty" I think she thought I was starting a thread about a thread as later I found a thread that had got heated about something similar but I'm so frustrated as my question/request for advice was genuine! Besides, I'm so shy about these things I think I'll just wait a week and then try again

Right, this has taken me ages! A friend of mine lent me the "no cry sleep solution" book. So far, it says many of the things venetian and some others have mentioned so we're in the right path

Hope you have a restful night, lovely Juners!!!

Waves!