May 2009 - we're all here! btw, does anyone know what the Hungry Cry sounds like?

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phew! how many threads have we done since last aug?

EBsMom - sorry I feel like I'm only just learning and don't know what to suggest. Yesterday O just didn't want to settle. The most he slept was half an hour and that was lying on me. He eventually settled about 9pm.
Sending you a sneaky hug and a large measure of gin...

I'd like some gin please, if there's any left.

Dandy I'd join you in a weight loss thread. I need to lose 3 stone

Saus Could you try either swaddling or sleeping her on her tummy for a bit to get her settled? It sounds like she could be overtired. Or a trip in a pushchair or car, just to get her off to sleep? If you are really stressed, it might be worth leaving her cry in another room while you have a bit of time out for yourself. HTH.

EBsmom- Sam has unsettled days, and I just end up holding him when he sleeps, or going to bed early with him to make sure he has decent sleeps- I pat/stroke his back/bum/face if he starts to cry, or just feed him lying down. After having DD and some horrible evenings, my biggest fear has been over-tiredness, which can make it harder for them to fall asleep or sleep fitfully. I guess it could be that if S has only had short naps all day?

tummum Your MIL sounds like my mum. I generally survive her stays with a few drinks a day too. Those 2 last weeks of my pregnancy when she was here were hard, but she did help me out a lot. I'd resent anyone for getting a big smile out of C before me too!

Emmab C hasn't settled for long periods either today. I've mainly had her on my lap while she was crying and I was on MN or eBay. I had tried feeding, lying her somewhere else (mat on floor/pram/sofa), rocking. Nothing works, so I had her with me and I just sort of blocked out the crying. At least she was crying in company! I must say she's also had fairly long awake alert periods today too. Watching me a lot, listening to me talking and I swear that I can see her working up to a smile, even though she hasn't done a proper one yet. I can tell it will come some time soon. Can't wait!

ses I think it's always more difficult 1st time around. I remember that with ds I didn't even leave the house for the 1st time until he was 2 weeks old. Now C was 5 days old!

Jael I hope the consultant can do something for your migraines. I know this might sound funny, but could the gall stones and migraines be connected somehow? Emmab is right, all that low fat food will make you loose weight in no time!

emmab It is hard asking for help. I'm the same, but if you need it ask for it. Just tell your GP the same as you've told your HV. Be honest to them, though, and don't make your feelings sound better than they are, because otherwise you wont get the help/referral that's needed for you.

weight loss I've got 9 more kg to go, whatever that is in stones. I'm counting on the bf and my diminished appetite to do the trick in the end, but I'm hating my belly at the moment. I still look about 5 months pregnant! Talking about weight loss. I bumped into one of the mums who I used to meet up with regularly after ds was born. She's got 4 dcs, the youngest being 2yo. I hadn't seen her in 6 months and I barely recognised her. She was so slim! I've never seen her that thin.

I'd like to join the weight loss thread too. I used to be 9st when i got married 5 years ago. I was 13st9 just before having DS2, now weigh 11st6 5 weeks later, but I guess my target weight will be 10 and a half stone, or even better, 10 stone.

Dandy- my scar was painful a week or so ago but MW thought it was just things knitting back together. Then it was pain-free as though i'd never had surgery so I have been driving, picking up DCs etc. I get a bit of pain now, but nothing too bad- if yours is really sore, I would mention it to your HV or GP as we had our sections around the same time i think?

Jael hope all goes well tomorrow - my baby has a tag on his right side as well but no one had mentioned doing anything about it - i just thought oh well his hair will probably grow over it!

Emmab - sorry you are struggling - I do think it is a good idea to talk to the GP - if they are any good they will pick up on what you are trying to say - waffle or not. And as for what is normal - well I would say it doesnt really matter - the question is whether you feel you are coping or not - and if you are not then get some advice / help.

If its any comfort i had a tough day too - first day back at work for hubbie, and DS2 wanted feeding pretty much all the time (and still) with little sleeping and DS1 getting bored and then naughty and me with a short fuse shouting at him. Ho hum - its hard work isnt it?

Ses- S is 5 weeks old tomorrow, and I haven't had all 3 DCs on my own for a full day yet so I feel a bit of a fraud. I think i'm ready to give it a try though.

I know with my first DC, I was rarely showered/dressed before lunchtime, didn't take her out for 2 weeks, and made it to my first baby group at 5 weeks (and that was a struggle). This time round, I was at a baby group when S was 2 weeks old (people there thought i was mad).

weight loss thread, yes please! I'm 2 dress sizes smaller than I was pre-pregnancy but I still have quite a bit to lose, so I'd like to join. None of my clothes fit, they look quite ridiculous and my lovely DH has given me money to replace them. I'm off on a shopping trip tomorrow, I can't wait!

Rosielady I'd never even known skin tags existed until I saw them on Jacob. The one on his right side is just one, but on his left side it's like 3 all into one, and he's got a tiny litte one in the inside of his ear too, so they just want to check them out abit further.

Em When J won't settle, I rock him, by sitting him so he's positioned on my knee and gentley rock my knee up and down, he's also a sucker for abit of face stroking, from the top of the forehead, and gentley over the nose. DD was exactly the same though. 5-10 mins of face stroking and I used to be able to get her off.

Belgian They said at the hospital that on my 20week scan, I never had gallstones, so they'd developed during pregnancy. Apparently theres tons of them, and their the size of peppercorns. I don't know how they can cause this mich grief and pain though, it's hurrendous. Apart from sticking to this diet, there's nothing else I can do, I just need the op ASAP, so I can get on with my life.

Hi all

Weight loss yes please! I have 1.5 stone to lose to get to pre pg weight and could do with losing a bit more too.

Also having a tough day today A has fed pretty much constantly since 3pm won't settle in pram or moses basket and I am knackered - dh managed to get her to sleep on him for an hour so I could nap but then mil rang and woke her and me up grrrr

Oh yes I'll have a gin please!

llareggub - enjoy your shopping trip

I need to join the weight loss thread too. I'm about 5'6" and in the year pre-pg had gained quite a bit and was 11st10. Went up to 14st4 whilst pg and now 12st5. Am pleased at what I've lost so far but really would love to be nearer 10st.

I'm at home alone (with DS and the dogs) at the moment and I've just had a policeman knock at the door. A stolen truck has crashed into our driveway gate and wall. I heard the dogs barking but thought they were barking at the thunder! Apparently the police had been chasing him and had a helicopter out following him as well. I think they caught him but he won't be insured so we will have to claim either on our insurance or from the company that own the truck.

Evening ladies, well somehow i put DS2 down for the night at 6pm tonight as it seemed to make sense at the time as he was awake at 4pm and was getting tired (normally he isn't wakey wakey til 6pm). He's still asleep now, which is nice (cluster feeding makes me so tired, bored and frustrated), but i am getting worried that he will have his longest sleep now, and then need to feed more in the night, or wake up early! But i guess we have to try different things and see what happens...I will let you know in the morning.

Emmab You sound so like me!! I had a much better day today but still lost it a bit today- mostly at DH- luckily we have made up. Toddlers are hard.

Beligan I don't do decorating. I always do about half an hour of painting and then get bored. DH is much more careful than me too I always end up slapping the paint on everywhere including myself.

Contraception OK I need some- got giggy with it on the weekend. I was on the pill before DD but never used anything between DD and DS except natural family planning. I want a 3rd DC but want to wait until I am home in NZ for the next one (2 year or so) so do I do mini pill or coil or implant what is the best??

Loving all the gin talk here I've been partaking in a G & T of an evening. Lovely. And needed.

Weight loss- oh god I need to but am not thinking about that yet.

I have put Rueben upstairs in his basket tonight and he is sleeping well. I'll go up when he wakes for his next feed. Hopefully after BB

Hallo - haven't got to the gin yet, but the red wine is slipping down a treat.

Was meant to meet friends this afternoon, but I texted at 1pm to say I couldn't make it as M was screaming ALL the time... one friend called me and I was sobbing down the phone, and bless her, she skived off work and she and the other girl (also on mat leave) came round here and made tons of tea, whisked M off for cuddles and attention whilst I got stuff 'done'. Other friend is also a breastfeeding counsellor who gave me tons of tips and has taught me how to express by hand (it spurted 1/2 way across the lounge!) Thanks for the tips tummum - I sort of know what to do, but couldn't be arsed to get into the car for the drive, then it started to thunderstorm outside so a walk was out of the question. I SO know how you feel, emmabemmasmom - this is hard, hard work. I've got a week at my parents next week whilst dp sorts out our move - I can't wait to be with someone all day.... I don't know how all of you with more than one DC do it. (plus Mum and Dad always have a bottle of wine open in the evening - yum)

Hello Dandy - Have been thinking of you. Did you manage to get your school appeal letter in?

Ses - can SO empathise with you about being alone for the first time with your LO. Scary, innit?! And OMG about the stolen truck! Bet you'll see your house on 'Police Camera Action' or whatever it is!!!

Ses, that's crazy about the stolen truck! also, you're no wimp! i think difficulty is relative with no. of children. being a 1st time mum was just as difficult for me as it is with 2 or 3... just different situation.

EBsmom, it took me almost a year to talk to GP about my postnatal feelings. I started seeing her about different fatal diseases I imagined i had then broke down during my 10th (?) visit when she gently asked about anxiety/depression etc. i got to the point where i was worried about being able to take care of my children (had no energy, didn't want to talk, play etc) and knew if i didn't get help i couldn't carry on (that's how it felt at the time anyway). my point is, please try to talk to someone about your feelings now so you can get support you need to overcome the difficulties. help is there and it does work. hope you feel better tomorrow.

Harper was so unsettled today as well. i was so irritated by her not being able to sleep more than 20 min so i could cook, do laundry/housework, help with potty, change nappies, eat lunch, have a nap, etc. i had to hold her most of the day and do things one-handed. because she didn't sleep well today, I hope it means she'll sleep well tonight.

didn't have gin tonight but had a glass of wine which did help relax.

Jael, face stroking makes me smile because all 3 of my dd's have loved the forehead to nose stroke. it makes them really drowsy.

dandy, and at your DH's fizzy drinks comment. I've been craving Dr Pepper.

dandy, i've just been more irritated at DH for things like noises he makes when he eats. or not listening to what i'm saying. or putting things in the wrong place.

then, i'm getting angry (yes angry) at the DD's for doing things they do naturally like making a mess when playing or eating for example. and i got really mad at baby Harper who wouldn't take a nap (how dare she?) so i could do other things. as soon as i heard her baby cry, inside my head, i was screaming 'WTF'... and she's a baby!

do you think it's hormones, lack of sleep, both?

ok falling asleep again. Harper asleep next to me so i should do the same.

good night all.

dandy fizzy lemonade in our fridge too.. maybe it's a bf thing? you know needing calories and liquid? just really hits the spot atm

another for weight loss too.. i've a stone to lose to get back to pre g weight then another to be pre ds and fit my fav clothes that I was aiming to fit before getting pregnant.

we're off to legoland today.. just hope g doesn't want to feed all day or it'll make the journey there and back v hard not to mention while we're there. last 2days she's fed every 3hrs and bf going much better because of that.

also my cs incision suddenly bit sore again so will have to be careful to remember not lift ds . i did yesterday and think that's done it?!

ses i suppose lucky you had the gate and wall there.. or it would have been your house.. bad luck he chose yours to crash into though