F(l)ab Feb 2009: Primark pants and teething rants

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A brand new sparkling thread to mark the four month mark for our bubs

fuck! you just reminded me i forgot to book him in for them again

oh well, in all other respects i was a supurb mummy today.. brought ds1 swimming, did shopping, cooked dinner, washed clothes, did arty stuff, etc, etc....

Not sure what's going on with ds1. He's either hitting terrible 2's or is just frustrated from the recent heat.
Today at playgroup, he was trying to hug the other children, and anyone that didn't want a hug, got pushed instead. I'm not sure if I'm dealing with it right. When he hits or pushes, I do tell him off, I tell him he shouldn't hit, it's not very nice and it hurts etc. But after he does it again and again, should I take him home? He also screams now if he doesn't get his own way and if I say come back here, or something, he throws himself to the floor in a mini-tantrum. This is normal right?
I wonder if he's getting a little poorly. He slept for 2 hours this afternoon, woke up crying so I gave him a hug but he wouldn't let me put him down, so I layed on my bed with him, and his eyes were rolling (in a tired fashion, not some sort of attack fashion I don't think) and he fell asleep for another hour or so. He's also needing to eat alot more and is not happy unless he is holding a banana (or we-ya-ya as he calls them), so maybe growth spurt? They still get them don't they? Or maybe he's getting unwell? I'm feeling a bit drained atm, and am getting paranoid about the old swine flu. I heard on the news they expect 100,000 cases a day by the end of august. Or it might be the champix I'm taking for the smoking.

Oh dear. I have just got myself into a 'discussion' in AIBU and am receiving a virtual stoning! I will never learn.

Good morning.
I'm still feeling a bit rough. Dp got in at 5:30am and had to get the boys up. I have just surfaced but feel really drained, like I could sleep for weeks!!
Dunno what to do today. I just want to stay in, but dp want to get some sleep......

lbb, ds1 is almost 3 and still has those sorts of growth spurts. we get a few days/weeks of cranky, exhausted, permanently hungry ds1 and then suddenly he's back to normal but half a foot taller

hope you avoid the swine flu, nasty weather to be sick in... bugs like that are always more unbearable in the heat. we've had 2 cases in differant schools within about 50 miles now so i think it won't be long before it takes hold here. just hope aaron avoids it, he's been through the mills already with illness and his poor chest would suffer badly with it i think.

PT that's a relief about the growth spurts.
Re flu of any kind, I'm feeling ok now, still tired but not physically exhausted so fingers crossed it's just the stop smoking tablets.
I think the heat helps the germs grow and travel doesn't it? I really hope we all manage to avoid it (all fab febbers and babes).

This is really foul, but when I got out of shower, I could smell poo really bad, looked at ds1 and it's all over the outside of his vest, all down his legs, over his feet, so I put him in the tub and hosed him down, then went in living room and it's smeared all up table legs and a bit on the floor, so I cleaned it all up, but I think I can still smell it. This was about 3 hours ago. I can't see anything else, but my furniture is quite dark. Will have to act like a dog, crawl across the floor sniffing everything. Pleasant!

Yuk to your last post LBB. Glad you're feeling a bit better. I had a few days away at my mum's, didn't want to have to come back to London at all.

Urrgghhh LBB! I'm hoping DD will never do this because her poos are usually like maltesers - yuk.

Was going to post properly but sam crying now so will try to get on later. Friend due any minute too!

I still haven't found anymore poo smears, but I know there's one here somewhere........disgusting.
Oh, hang on, is that a bit I see on his ride-along car?
Laters

Hellllllloooooooooooo? Anyone there?????????

I'm thinking about weaning Luke. He's 5 months today. I'd ideally like to wait until he's 6 months, but he is being a little rat-bag and I don't think he's putting on much weight.
The other reason I'm thinking of doing it now, is in a few weeks, we are going to be staying with SIL in Yarmouth and would rather start now and get us all used to it, than have to start there where me and Luke aren't fully relaxed iyswim.
Am thinking of trying a bit of mashed banana at tea time.
IIRC I weaned ds1 around this time too. Might have been an extra week or so though.

Hi LBB I'm all alone tonight so a good time to catch up! Just tortured myself with my epilator so time to put my feet up.

I'd say, re weaning Luke, that you would have a pretty good idea of when's the right time. I think we started DD off just after 5 months. A good test is to offer him, but if he's not interested, give it another week or so, then try again. We've got to wait at least another 7 weeks with Sam until we've seen teh paediatrician at kingston. He'll be over 6 months then, but if he's really unhappy and waking up loads during the night, I'll talk to the HV.

Sam and I finally got home around 9pm last night after a super fast journey home by train. We've got an appointment on Weds to get the results and see if he needs any medication. In the meantime, we now have a prescription for Neocate - woohoo!

Although there was a lot of waiting around, I think the last couple of days were really lovely with Sam. I feel like I've really bonded with him (at last!!) - he was lovely and smiled at everyone, but saved the biggest smiles for me ! He was a little monkey though and kept tugging at his tube, so ended up having to have his hands bandaged up . It was quite hard to entertain him without him being able to touch. We were able to go out for a few hours so we went to Oxford Street and spent ages in John Lewis just browsing.

I got a taste of what it must be like to have a baby that's not "normal" because walking round with Sam in the pushchair with his hands bandaged (they looked like they were stumps) and his tube linked to a machine attrracted many stares and sympathetic smiles.

Nkweto - was it strenge being back at work? I can't imagine how I'm going to
think about anything else but babies!

KBN I'm very of Ivor sleeping for 12 hours!!! We can get Sam down at 7, sometimes he gets a dream feed at about 10pm, but he still wants milk at about 4am. Then he wakes at around 7am, but isn't hungry until about 8.30. I think this means he doesn't really need the 4am feed, but I quite like having a more relaxed morning before having to feed him.

I'm waffling now and need to get surfing for DD's brithday pressie. She'll be 2 in a couple of weeks - I'm really excited - I didn't really enjoy her 1st birthday because I was suffering with horrible morning sickness!

Fucking wanking bastard fucking mumsnet just deleted my fucking SIX BASTARD PAGE POST

Cant be arsed to re-fucking-write-it

BTW am back from hols but not in that great a mood

no shit eh?

(Hi everyone hope you are all ok?)

welcome home Spotty.....

Wow spotty You really aren't in a good mood are you? Hope you feel better soon.
{{hugs}}
STW I know you're right about the weaning. I think I'm more nervous about it this time than I was with ds1, stupid hey?
Ds1 will also be 2 in a few weeks. Flys by doesn't it?
We're getting him a little henry hoover that comes with a dustpan and brush because he seems to enjoy 'helping' me around the house. I have also bought a painting box, it has some shaped sponges, rollers, brushes and other stuff (might regret this purchase....) My dad's getting him an easel white board and chalk board thingy. Mum's not sure what to get so I told her anything to do with cars, planes, trains, dinosaurs, bib the bloody builder or farm yard animals.
It's hard because we don't have a garden or masses of room in the flat and don't want to be overran with toys that won't get played with so don't really know what to get him.
Obviously at this age, he gets easily bored so doesn't really sit with one thing for long, even doing things with me, he gets fed up of puzzles quickly, books are touch and go whether he'll even stay in the same room! I'd quite like something to help his development, we play with flash cards, and he is very good at matching pairs, he can't say many animal names, but he recognises the names and pictures and if you say to him "whhat does a frog do?" he'll jump and yell "ribbt" and he howls for wolves, makes a wierd noise for dlphins and other animals too, so would like to encourage that, also he likes dancing and bashing things, he has a few little musical instruments and would like to continue encouraging that too.
I still haven't been able to get him to say any other number but 2, so maybe something for that........hmm.
Still on for monday?

THANKS - NOT GLAD TO BE BACK.

Seriously, ~I think I'm going to have to step away from the keyboard tonight as may

get divorced

have his kids adopted

kill or torture airline people

Or all people

say a few choice things. Did totally vent in 6 page post but am too defeated to start typing it all again.

Will sleep on it and start again in the morning

Oh spotty Sorry. Hope things seem brighter in the morning. x

Morning. One of those bloody nights again.
They were both up and down all night, just at different times which meant it was constant for me
Think I'm going to try Luke on a bit of mashed banana this evening.

[envelopes spotty in massive bear hug and moves her gently towards the booze and chocolate stach]

flying with -idiot- -men- -and- -demon- -children- families sucks doesn't it? i've flown with dp and with aaron seperately and neither were fun experiances.... dreading flying with dp and kids... may take the train while they all fly together

hope a good nights sleep helped a little though

lbb, i found with ds1 doing blw was very reasuring as he was ready before 6 months. he stole food at 21 weeks and ate it and i started blw and it calmed me down knowing he was physically able to eat and choosing to do so and i wasn't forcing it on him too early iyswim?

LBB, my DS1 was given a mini Henry for his 2nd birthday which he adores, so hopefully J will too. (He had a dustpan and brush for his 1st birthday as he seemed to like playing with ours and my dad gave him a clean one of his own, sadly both sets are now dirty and horrible, perhaps we should get a new one if I see one which doesn't have horrible sharp edges).

morning all, not been on a few days as having a mini nervous breakdown.

spotty, welcome back, hope all is ok, had wondered where you were. Apart from what I assume were airline probs I hope you had a nice holiday. Have been thinking of you and DH and hope all ok x

STW sounds like it was a very worthwhile trip to the hospital and fingers crossed it all gets sorted out. Thank god at least you have the formula you need on prescription now.

nkweto, hope going back to work wasn't too traumatic for you

LBB I started weaning H at 4 months. I gave him just a few little tastes of baby rice and for the last 2 weeks he has been having breakfast and tea. Usually Farleys/Heniz banana breakfast (powder that you mix up with water) or maybe jars of organic porridge/organix fruit and then for tea a savory farleys/heinz powder or a jar of savoury (yesterday he had a jar of sweet potato and loved it) Bloody HV from our surgery came to see me on Friday as wanted to see H and G (mainly H as he had just been registered) She said that some advice now is not to wean until 6 months but I pointed out
A) DCs 1, 2, & 3 were all weaned at 4 months and didn't do them any harm and
B) on the jars/packets that I am using it says from 4 months.
The cheeky bitch/lady then suggested that I perhaps try cooking my own food and suggested preparing freshly made cooked/pureed root veg/pears etc.
DD was racing round like a loony, the pile of ironing was piling up, I was constantly answering the phone and going out to see AA man who was there for 2 1/2 fucking hours pumping the sodding PETROL out of my DIESEL car (just keep reminding myself, diesel, diesel) DO I LOOK LIKE I HAVE SODDING TIME TO TURN INTO ANNABEL FING CARMEL OR WHATEVER HER BLOODY NAME IS!

Rant over! SO pissed about car. I thought £66 to fill it up was a bargain compared to last summer when it cost £85 to fill it up. Not so much of a bargain when you factor in the £214 for the AA man to pump it all out and another £60 to refill it!

Hope everyone else is ok and having a nice weekend x

MOS health visitors are twats when it comes to the weaning stuff - if a baby's ready at 4 months, they will eat and if they're not, they won't/ will puke it up.

We thought Stan was ready to eat at 4 months - grabbing food, smacking lips etc - but he puked up the banana we gave him so obviously not. Also tried him on some baby cereal - he won't eat it, so I guess he's not ready.

All he wants is mummy's boob.

In other words, you just know what they want/are ready for and follow their cues. If your baby is eating then he is ready

mos... blw

wait til he can do it himself (5.5-6 months) then fling him bits of the family dinner and let him manage himself... far less faff than purrees.

for the time being though, would mashing up a banana not take about the same amount of time as mixing up powdered stuff? poor dd lived on mashed banana for brekkie for months as i could never cope with anything more constructive than that... if she was lucky i mixed in some other fruits too

and for dinner, you don't have to make a seperate dinner to purree for him, just make sure the family meal is low salt and relatively healthy and pop a baby sized portion in a blender with some water or milk and voila... baby mush (you can make double what he needs each time and freeze a portion for a day the family meal is less than healthy)

the jars and cartons really aren't great on the nutrition front... they get far more goodness from the same amout of milk (f or bm) and it would fill him up more too. that said, the same goes for all solids at this age, it's just to learn how to eat, not to gain any nutritional benefits but the processed stuff can have hidden nasties in some of it and you have to be very careful as alot of the ones that are labeled 4m+ actually have ingredients in them that babies under 6 months really shouldn't have like wheat, cow's milk, strawberries, etc.

sorry about the lecture but i have alot of regrets about how i weaned dd as i'm positve alot of her intolerances could have been avoided if i'd been more careful and waited a while to wean her

PT Yes I see what you mean about the blw thing. I remember with ds1, he lapped it all up so knew he must have wanted it, even though he wasn't quite 6 months.
If Luke isn't interested, I'll do what STW said and leave it a week. I don't want to force him to eat, but I also don't want to with hold it if that's what he wants.......I will offer more finger foods from the start too, and get him to eat family meals alot sooner than I did it with ds1.
mos when I weaned ds1, I went and bought a steamer, a blender and loads of baby cook books and ice-cube trays. I did quite enjoy cooking for him, for a while anyway! He ventually decided he didn't like my food anymore and would only eat jars.
I will prob try to do a bit of home cooked for Luke, just because it's a bit cheaper, but who knows if I'll have the time to do any more!
Ds1 hated babyrice but was on the fruity flavoured breakfast powder stuff too.

I'm going to start on a bit of mashed banana later today and see how that goes, if all well, will keep that for a few days and then move on to carrots and peas, and depending on appetite will offer breakfast in just under a week.
I figure that when he starts on breakfast, I'll give solid straight at getting up time and then the milk a couple of hours later in the hope that his morning nap will go on a bit longer.
But am also thinking about starting breakfast instead of dinner anyway......oh the decisions.

I don't have any regrets about how Iweaned Jacob, but remember I said he came off the milk really quickly? I mean I did what he told me to iyswim and as he preferred solids to milk, that's what he got, but not sure if I'll drop the milk so quick with Luke, I might try to take a bit more control over it, but then there's nothing wrong with ds1 so maybe I should just follow whatever Luke tells me

PT, I never even mashed banana for DS1 - he was 6 months and he had 4 teeth at that point. I also gave him a lot of bread and thinly sliced cheese.

I'm also going to wait with C. I think he'll probably be quite interested by that point, even if it's just for something else to bite instead of me (she says hopefully) - he has 2 teeth though it was a few weeks later than D, and continues to show the teething signs that he has had from 3 months.

I used pre made purees too - Ella's Kitchen and Plum Baby - rather expensive and packaged to appeal to those of us who can't be bothered making our own but feel guilty about it - yes, I'd describe myself that way - but I suspect the reason they carry on labelling them from 4 months is that they'd lose a lot of business if more people waited a bit longer, both from 4-6 months and because parents would be less reliant on them.