April 2008 - The One Where Our Babies Are All Turning Into Toddlers!

[KnitterInTheNW]

07 March: Ashton, a fourth child for gemprincess, 5lb 13oz @ 34+6
09 March: Ted, a second DS for Daftmoo, 7lb 14oz @ 36+0
21 March: George William, a first baby for KnitterintheNW, 7lb 2.5oz @ 37+3
25 March: Olivia, a second baby for TheMaskedPoster, 7lb 2oz @ 38+4
28 March: Pablo, a third baby and first DS for vacaloca, 7lb 14oz @ 39+4
28 March: Matteo Alexander, a first baby for Gangle @ 38+0 (?)
30 March: A baby girl, a second child for PortAndLemon, 8lb 15oz @ 39+5
02 April: Jak, a baby boy for rainbowdays, 9lb @ 39+1
02 April: A baby boy, a second child for bunyanvillas, 6lb 14oz @ 37+5
02April: Struan, a baby boy for Donnabels, 6lbs 15oz
02 April: A baby boy for mummyofaprincess @39 weeks
03 April: A baby girl for PippiCalzelunghe @38+2weeks
03 April: Aeryn Daisy, a baby girl for Denny185, 9lb 8oz @ 39+3
03 April: Benjamin, a baby boy for Micegg, 8lb 3oz @ 39+4
03 April: Roelof Grové, a first DS for SalLikesCoffee, 7lb 5oz @ 38+5
03 April: A baby boy for siikibam, 6lb 8.5oz @39+1wks
04 April: Matilda, a baby girl for AprilsFoolsBaby 7lb @
05 April: Ellis, a baby girl for MadameOvary, 9lb 12oz @ 40+6
06 April: Henry Peter, a baby boy for Sheds, 7lb 130z @ 40+4
07 April: Sebastian George, a fourth DS for Peachy, 8lb 4oz @ 41+1
07 April: Jack, a first baby for ThePFJ, 7lb 5.5oz @ 41+1
07 April: Lexie Bea, a fourth baby for babywhiting, 8lb 1oz @ 39+4
08 April: Alasdair, a second DS for bunnyrabbit, 8lb 5.5oz @ 40+3
08 April: James Samuel, a third baby for honeybee10, 6lb 7oz @ 37+2
09 April: Zara Mia Martin, a first baby for V1KK1M, 7lb 10oz @ 41+0
09 April: Jasmine, a baby gilr for Niceychops
11 April: Kyran for rdk, 7lb 13oz @ 38+3weeks
11 April: Sebastian James, a second baby for Fleecy, 10lb 2oz @ 40+4
11 April: A baby girl, a first baby for CeylonSapphire, 7lb 12oz @ 41+1
11th April: Florence, a baby girl for LouMoose
12 April: Maya Alice, a first baby for egyptianprincess, 8lb 15.5oz @ 40+3
12 April: Sophia Viviana, a second DD for AussieDivaonaBreak, 6lb 12oz @ 39+3
15 April: Alexander Oliver, a third baby for VictorianSqualor, 10lb 3oz @ 41+0
16 April: Ailish, a first baby for Mollyfloss, 6lb 11oz @ 40+3
16 April: A baby girl, a second baby for elfsmummy, 7lb 13oz @ 41+1
16 April: Zoe, a baby girl, a first baby for ToastAddict, 6lb 10oz @ 39+3
16 April: Jasmin, a baby girl, a first baby for Eggandketchup, 9lb 3oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy for paranoidmumy, 8lb 9oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy, a second son for lorisparkle, 7lb 12.5oz @ 41+6
17 April: Benedict, first baby for LadyBee 9 lb 3oz @ 41 +2
18 April: Millie Grace Jessamy, a baby girl for scorpio1 8lb 9oz @ 41
18 April: Cameron, a second baby for munchkinmum @ 39+5
19 April: Oliver Michael, first baby for bashboid, 7 lb 4 oz at 41 +3
20 April: Samuel, a first baby for Velbels. 8lb15oz at 41+1weeks.
20 April: Angharad Mai, 8lb 4oz, 40+6, first for 7monthsplus
20 April: Emilia, 7lb15oz, a first baby for SuzeM, 40+6
20 April: A baby girl for SushiMama
21 April: Eve, a second baby for OMaLittle, 8lb 4oz @ 39+3
21 April: A second DD for Monmoo
22 April: Sam, a second son for Soph73 @ 40+0
22 April: Molly, a first baby for EllieG, 8lb 8oz? @ 40+5
22 April: Daisy, second baby for AttilaTheHan @ 40 +3
22 April: Zoe Olivia, second daughter for Piccallilli2 7lb 1oz @42+1
22 April: A second DD for blinks.
23 April: Jessica Elizabeth, first baby for BabyBratt @ 40+1 7lb 12oz.
24 April: A baby girl, a second daughter for christmaspixie, 9lb 2oz @ 40+6/41+5
24 April: Miya Jade, baby girl for ShelleySare at 39+4
25 April: Amelie, a first baby for Dondons, 9lb, 41+3 (i think!)
25 April: Aisha, a second baby for Jaq39 7lb 14oz @ 41+4
26 April: Hope Olivia, a second dd for northeastmummy, 7lb 11oz at 41 .
26 April: Gabriel, a third child for Bainmarie @ 41+5
26 April: Eli Michael, a baby boy for LittleMissTurquoise, 7lb 15.5oz @ 40+5
27 April: a baby girl for Ayomi, 6lb 1oz @ 41+0
28 April: Jacob Andrew, a 2nd DS for Kaybeeand2boys, 8lb 4oz @ 41+5
29 April: Thomas Henry, a 2nd DS for TLSM, 7lb 8oz 40+3
30 April: Harry Samuel, a fourth ds for Chipmonkey, 9lb 5oz @ 39+2
30 April: Ellie, a baby girl for Annamama
30 April: A second DD for luckymummy74
01 May: Sophie May, a baby grl for Annieroo, 6lb 5oz @ 41+4
01 May: Euan George, a baby boy for Jenniejennie, 8lb @ 40+4
02 May: Robyn Olivia, a baby girl for soph28, 8lb 1oz @ 42+1
05 May: Nora Martina, a first baby for Eva07, 7lb 8oz @ 41+2
05 May: A baby boy for Beeper, 8lb 10oz @ 41+0
05 May: Gabriella Summer, a first baby for MommyHasAHeadache, 8lb 4oz @ 40+6
06 May: Wilf, 8lb 60z for bigbadmom @ 41+6
07 May: James Andrew, a second ds for Moominsmummy, 8lb 13oz @ 41+5
08 May: Ellie Isabella, a first baby for Carey87, 7 lb 8oz @ 42+1
08 May: Robin David, a 2nd baby for Woollymummy, 8lb 11 oz @ 41+3
09 May: 4 kittens for scorpio's cat!
10 May: Astrid Mary, a second dd for TheShipsCat, 8lb 8oz @ 42+0

i have already told him he is to pay for whatever counselling - oh boo hoo no xbox games or jolly outings. He will go, as he has done before.

I didnt kiss him today, i meant since 4 weeks ago.

proabaly was in my car too, in my seat. nice.

Ah, sorry, thought you meant today!

As I said in message, you are strong. Stronger than you might realise now. You deserve to be happy. Thinking of you. xxx

OH, and also meant to add, if you dod decide to work on things (if he was my hubby anyway) there would be not ONE SINGLE MOMENT he was out of my sight, for at least a year.
I would expect to see proof of every penny coming into his hands and what it was spent on, hours worked etc.

The thing though, is that might drive you mad, not? The constant having to check, the constant having to be with him, keeping him under "supervision".

However, and I guess in same lines, I'd say stuff all this bloody hobbies of his. Boxing? No, he gave up his chance for private little hobbies by constantly doing this.

Trips abroad? No, he clearly has problems behaving like an adult. Fishing etc etc etc. No.

Yes, fine, hobbies, but not that kind. Doing things together as a family, yes. Work all hours during the week, coming straight home. Can rest on weekends, but with you. Lots of people work all hours during the week, spending all weekend together as you don't have much spare time together during the week so loving every second of it (applies to us too, for example).

Cottage, camping, whatever. But as a family. If he wants do do active stuffs, go on a canoeing type of weekend, whatever. But not this, he's not single.

If he misses his friends, they can come over to your house, or you can all go over to theirs.

Personally, I'd leave him, but this is easy for me to say, I'm not in your shoes, and I don't know him. Just thought I'd say this in case it looks like I think it'll all be ok.

Uhm, I mean all be ok automatically, just over and done with, iyswim. It is possible for it all to be good or even better later, if that is really what everyone wants.

Am going to have dinner now, but thinking of you tonight.

Oh scorps, how horrible.

Have you thought about posting on the relationships board as well as here? Namechange? I'm sure there are lots of people who have been through something similar and they might also have good advice.

I just don't know what to say. I expect it matters to feel that you're being the told the truth about the details...after he's betrayed your trust so badly. But honestly I have no idea how you go about persuading someone who seems to have no problems lying. God I'm so angry that you have to even think about this. You're pregnant FFS!

Suze, sounds like you made the right decision, and I wouldn't dismiss the manager's 'keep in touch' message too lightly.

I spent most of Saturday evening crying big blubby snotty tears at the thought of taking my boy back to his childminder on Monday. Cried a bit more on Sunday. Was a big brave girl this morning and am now fine after a day at work. I'm not sure if that makes me feel better or not.

Also. DS is still hitting me and himself, only occasionally DP and a few times the cat. I try holding his arms down and saying no hitting, but it doesn't seem to help. I've just suggested to DP that I ignore it completely, give absolutely no attention to the behaviour and see whether that helps. Do you think this is a terrible idea? I've been looking at parenting threads and all the babies that seems to be hitting are 2! I know DS understands a lot of what I say, but I think this is turning into a game for him.

I bet you're right - I think they start realising they get reaction (instinctively from us the first time it happens) when doing this, and then, not really understanding it's "wrong" / still playing the game regardless, continue. Random guess of course, but I bet you ignoring would help, but praising if he does something different in it's place.

Our issue of the moment is the dreaded biting... Have tried really hard to get him to stop, and it seems to work so far. Thank heavens he's only done it with us (well, mainly dh), and has apparently never at nursery or with other kids, which is why I expect it's our reaction. Funny outcome of that is that he's now switched to a fake astonished "oh" (imagine really round, pouted lips whilst loudly drawing in his breath, eyes wide open). Makes us laugh, so he's now using it randomly throughout the day... Beats biting though.

Glad you've feeling a bit better now that you're actually at work again. I guess being busy all day helps - does for me anyway, as there's just not time to wonder about things too much.

Alex hits, and he bit me a few times whilst playing (through the back of the dining room chair )
I just do what I did with the others, remove them from the situation and say no sternly. So if he is sat on me I will say 'No, hurt mummy' and put him on the floor then walk off.

Hello all. Just went for weigh-in. I know it's mostly water in the first week, but I lost 6 pounds. Am so chuffed.

How is everyone?

Scorps, you around? xxx

Sal 6lbs is amazing! well done! What club are you doing? Well done

Thanks. I'm really embarrassed to say this, as after the first intro session I came home, and proudly declared to dh that there's no way in hell I'm going there, as "I might be fat, but I'm not fat and stupid", but... L ighter L ife L ite. (sorry for stupid spacings, but don't want this thread to pop up if someone wants to search for that).

It's stupid for a couple of reasons - firstly, it costs £50 per week. Secondly, it's 3 meal replacements a day (included in costs though), which I hate. Thirdly - it's no carbohydrates, and, honestly, I think fad diets like that is all rubbish - you should just eat healthily instead.

However - having thought about it for a week, worked out how much I spend at Starbucks etc every day anyway, I've decided the costs thing isn't actually that much of an issue (works out about the same as take-aways at work), and it's a quick way to lose weight for my brother-in-law's wedding in Oct. I'll go on a healthy "maintenance" type of lifestyle after this - perhaps having a Ben&Jerrys tub of icecream every night isn't exactly the world's best idea ever...

We're going to Paris this weekend, so would be a little tough not eating all those pasties, though! Might buy really nice things at a supermarket there and go and eat it in a park with Roelof though - it would probably work better than a restaurant anyway!

Anyway, enough about me.

Scorpio, how are you feeling? Rub little baby in your tummy for me. xxx

Anyone else around?

B has bitten but that really did seem to be a phase as he's never done it again.
I did a bit more hunting and it does seem that 15 months is a time when hitting seems to start up, and there are suggestions out there to be very consistent with no, but also try to head off the hitting before it starts, so today when he was tired I start encouraging him to clap or gave him something to hold when it looked like it was going to start and that seemed to work.

Sal, well done on the weight loss, and for making the decision to do it seriously. I seem to be ruining my own plans to lose weight - but at least am not gaining any more.

Thanks, Ladybee. I've never "done" dieting before - I'm a big food person.... So finding this a little hard, but not undoable. I wouldn't have stuck with it without the weekly meetings, I don't think. It's been quite good today really - working through this programme thing, going through reasons why you over eat etc. Apparently "because Ben&J Half Baked is the best in the world" isn't a proper reason...

Ah cool, thanks for info on hitting. I'll keep an eye out, bet R will start that soon enough, so thanks for the heads up.

Going to have a bath and go to bed early (for me anyway), so night, all. x

HELLO EVERYBODY!

Just thought I would check in from Roma, only read two pages but lovely to see I got a mention.

Scorps, first of all, I'm so sorry. You deserve a billion times better than him. Be strong. Counselling sounds like a good route forwards, both single (for him) and for both of you. You are amazing and he knows that at heart, but he will get away with what he can get away with. You need to show him that is NOTHING.

We are having an amazing time, DH took redundancy too and we're heading to Croatia sometime this week, then to Hungary to see friends. After that we need somewhere REALLY CHEAP to live in the UK so answers on a postcard please! Trip has been brilliant though hard work the four of us in a VW van sometimes! Also 15 month olds and hazard-filled campsites not necessarily the most relaxing mix - one day we went to visit an old colleague in Florence and MY GOD it was amazing just to be able to let E run around a (rapidly) baby-proofed room. Anyway, can't complain about anything. Has been great for our relationship and we feel really close as a family, which is much more important than not being broke and homeless, right? Right?

Miss you all. Vee-esS, you still doing your PGCE?

Xx

Wow, I can't believe the range on my thread-killing weaponry!

Hello Oma, what a lovely surprise!!! Ah man, your trip sounds amazing. You sound so happy and relaxed. If dh got offered redundancy, I'd love to do something similar, ending with perhaps a stint on an island in Asia somewhere - have this thing about Asia...

Here so hot and sweaty today. Suit was not a good idea... Urgh.

Hi all!

Goodness Scorps, I have no words, my face looks like this . You're being amazingly strong, everyone else's advice sounds good to me. Don't let anything spoil your scan on Friday though, I can't wait to hear the news!

I'm pooped after a busy, teething few days (G finally has tooth no 5!) and struggling to find anything else sensible to say, so I'll just wave at you all and come back soon to speak properly.

Oma! heavens, what a nice surprise! I'm so pleased that you're actually doing the big trip thing. Have a great time in Croatia, I recommend Trogir (just north of Split), it's lovely, and there's a fab national park with waterfalls and lakes further inland from there. Vaguely think it's something like Krka?

So when you say cheap in the UK, do you mean anywhere or are you thinking still of being commutable to London?

I swear right now, I am going to follow in your footsteps and drag DP and DS (and any other DC) on something similar.

Hi OMa you sound like you're having fun, lol. Houses aren't cheap here sadly but do come to live here anyway

Umm can't remember anythign else life bit weird here. Meant to have swabs done today but cannot go out, feels like too much to do and like everyone will know that i can't keep even one man interested in me. I will go next week. Scan tomorrow.

I know what day he kissed her, its even on this thread the day he said he was going fishing (4 july). I was 15+2 weeks pg. I have seen itemised phone bills and actually he didnt even ocntact her weekly. He said he kept her interested enough to use her as a pick me up when/if something was 'up' with us (ie me going to bed early cos im knackered etc). He maintains that he met her twice; once in March after gym, where he talked to her at the nearby bus top and they exchanged numbers. apparently flirtty texts after that. Then he got his iphone that i can read messages oline with, so he rang not texted her. He rang her on average x4 a month, for about ten mins or less each time. Since the snog he contacted her once, that night he came in at 2am very drunk. He does not have another phone, and i have broken the only old mobile in this house. He has said he 'liked' her, but didnt 'fancy' her. they were chatting in the van for about 1.5 hrs (does add with travel time) and at the end they hugged, then snogged for 5-10 mins (re 30 mins i bet). She looks like a boy in drag, she is chubbier than me and is blonde. DH says he doesnt find her attractive particularly

She is denying knowing him LOL the arrogant twat. She must feel she is very funny, pulling a married man. Ha ha, last laugh will be on me.

I have checked credit card statements, no PAYG top ups, no extra fuel, no meals, no 'presents' that i havent had anyway. I cant account for his cash expenditure htough, obv.

He was not having a prolonged sustained affair. I dont begin to understand WHY, but he did what he did. I'm not sure hwy he didnt do more, or meet her more, i think he scared himself tbh.

He is back in the house. He is not doing anything other than training and work. I know when he's been training as gloves leave leather marks on your forearms and he smells . Phone has been signed into bluebook so i can see every call and the content of each text sent & made. He is to provide me with receipts of things he has bought.

I hate him, he's a bastard and doesnt deserve our family. I'm not entirely sure if he is sorry, or sorry i busted his ass. He is a dirty sleazy twat.

He is getting counselling under his own steam. Its attention from me, or NOWHERE.

Being faithful ain't hard, its rewarding, non? He is also to wear wedding ring daily (he never did before) and i am to be made aware of every female he meets/knows. I dont know why he even took her number. She even has a stupid fucking name. I will be meeting his female friends and no more female friends to be made for a LONG time. He is not to go to boxing parties for a long time as every fucking thing that goes wrong is when he's either fighting or out with them. He rgues its him not the boxing, but BOLLOX, im doing what i want.

I'm going to get my hair done next week by beauuuuuuuuutiful gay man and may accidentally buy alot of things, just because. How come im always nice, to everyone, and it NEVER pays? whats the point. Wish i had the guts to cheat, if any man would even have me.

Sorry for rambling, feel free for ideas/advice/anything that seems wrong or OTT?

I mean, we are women, yes? I would never tell a man i thought he was gorgeous or hot - however women do this to my HUSBAND alot. why?

Hey, Scorpio. I'm sorry for being so blunt the other day, it was really not my place to say.

Anyway, back to today: I might not necessarily agree with what you decide, but I have so much respect for your strength. For your determination. Your whole "this is my decision" attitude. It is such a brilliant thing to have.

Where you are wrong however, is about your opinion of yourself. His cheating and whatever is his issues, and that he has to deal with, and by the sounds of it, he is at least trying with the councelling etc.

However, you HAVE to speak to someone about your self esteem. Honestly, lovely, it's not a shame to say "I feel less that perfect, I feel a bit worthless sometimes - help me feel as good as I should." This is unrelated to him, nothing to do with his cheating, but it would help you deal with it. If it helps, I've been a bit depressed once, and I just felt generally low and worthless. I saw a lovely hypnotherapist 3 times, and I walked away, exactly the same person, but happier with who I am. It's the best money I've ever spent in my life. Try it, just the once. It's not at all hypnotism as you think of it, it's more about accepting yourself, allowing yourself to realise that you are in control of your life. Try it. Just the once. Worst case, you'll lose an hour of your life and the price of a dress. Best case, it could change your life. No-one needs to know.

Sorry, got a bit carried away there, but the point is, you ARE amazing. You ARE beautiful. You ARE intelligent. Oh, and you're also classy, which is why you won't cheat. You could if you wanted to, there'd be a line of guys begging for your attention if they didn't know you. However, in real life, I'm sure no-one will, as it's obvious you're not a slut and you're better than that kind of thing. So no, you could, but no, it's not your thing. Because you're so much better, and that is your choice, whether you realize it or not! Keep strong, I'm weirdly proud of you.

Oh God Scorps, just read a bit and am SOOOO sorry

TBH I'm with Sal and would have shipped his ass out of there but I know relationships have a rhythm of their own and those in them need to decide themselves whether it's a go-er or a no-no,and right now isn't necessarily the best time for you to scrap it all.

Get the swabs done my lovely, scary though it is, so you have a few asnwers. And yes your self esteem- i've gone through life with very poor self esteem and frankly it's robbed me of a lot of chances (such as studying social policy at bristol when asked by them to apply, standing as a Councillor- all sorts). don't let the same happen to you.

And of course you're beautiful, very much so

Scorpio, you sound like a fab mum and wife and you're a gorgeous lady. Your husband sounds pretty immature. I hope everything works out for you and you can learn to trust him again. Enjoy your scan tomorrow.

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