March 08:Happy Birthday!!! We made it through a whole year!

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new thread.

Congrats skidoodle!! Welcome to the club again.

Ewe-we do Gymboree on a Wednesday morning but not too much in the afternoon.

hello lurkers, and congrats skidoodle! how far along so far?

gg mmr'd last friday, waiting for this weekend for any side effects. pcv at the same time didn't seem to notice it at all.

he is making me laugh a lot recently, as his sense of humour is blossoming. he kind of makes physical jokes with us a lot, i'd forgotten how astonishing they can be. hiding food, pretending to scamper away, doing teddy peek a boos. another thing i find sweet beyond belief is that if ds1 leaves his 'numnum' (precious teddy/comforter) around, gg will take it to him and hand it over.

For the Pregnant Among Us:

I read this this morning. Another bout of vomiting, another braincell for baby.

ff- thank you i needed that. am still with bucket and am 12 wks today...

skidoodle! jfly! i missed you

congrats to all pg ladies. you brave ladies! dh and i are thinking we'll start trying later this year but tbh it will be just like with DS - whenevr we get bored of the faff of contraception is when we'll start!

can't believe it but we seem to be involved in a ludicrous heady-days-of-2007 property fight! we're not even officially looking (in process of picking the right town to move to, certainly not at house buying stage) but by chance we saw the house of our dreams in sussex at the weekend and have put an offer in. unfortunately, it seems to be the house of everyone else's dreams too. not a cat in hell's chance of us getting it because we are not on the market ourselves, and it is already above asking price (!) and they have offers coming out of their ears all of which appear to be from people who are cash buyers or under offer themselves. so about a 5% chance that we get it I reckon - find out tomorrow (final offers in today). still, daydreaming about it is more fun than work today!

we have no internet dus to a major f**k up on the part of sky who were supposed to just take over as service providerr and have left us internetless and may have lost our phone number for good so am borrowing a neighbours signal (did ask must be quick)

crashff- thats a good link, dd is a bright
little thing but based on my sikness with her she should be a member of mensa in a few years!

am not so not pg but am broody, after finding out a rl friend is pg and reasing this thread has just made me more so.....doesnt halp that looks like i have fibroids and have such a swollen stomach that im in maternity jeans

MERRY-DS sounds like such a cutie

Congrats, Skidoodle.

Ewe, how did the MMR go?

Quick question re breastfeeding. We are down to one a day now. When she wakes up I bring her back to bed with me and feed her. These have been getting progressively shorter, and this morning she lasted about 30 seconds on one breast, and cried when I offered her the other. Is this it? The same happened with the bedtime feed about 6 weeks ago, but I thought we'd keep the morning one for a while longer.

I suppose I should be pleased that she is self-weaning, and is doing what is right for her, but find it slightly ironic that she has chosen National Breastfeeding Week to stop. I'll ty again tomorrow, but my gut is telling me that she is done. Has anyone else petered out gradually and had the baby make the decision?

It is a weird feeling to think I might have my boobs back again.

How is everyone getting on? MB, GG sounds hilarious!

ooh- i missed that, major congrats skidoodle

Thanks everybody

I'm 5 weeks today, so a long way to go. It's seeming more and more fanciful now. I'm wondering did I just make it up.

FfreckleFface

LOL @ DD weaning during National Breastfeeding Week

We're down to just morning feeds too. They had been getting shorter and shorter but then this morning she had quite a long feed. I'm not even convinced there's anything in there any more, but she seems happy enough.

Please could your LOs have a word with Pascal? He has decided that he now wants to feed all the time(today we've had 7 ). And it's starting to be a bit irritating. Feel too guilty to stop though.

FfFf - I forced the issue on the morning feed as I was finding it too hard with work (got DH to give DS cup of milk with breakfast before he got to see me in the mornings) but then with the evening feed it just became clear that he didn't want it much - down to a couple of mins feed, and only had that because I would offer.

I had a cry one night when feeding as I figured it was going to stop, went away for the night the next night and when I came back decided to do the whole don't offer, don't refuse thing (I know this is considered a weaning technique rather than truly letting him decide, but it felt the right approach for us) DS never requested again! We stopped about a week shy of his birthday. Although he refused to be weaned onto formula earlier, he has never actually been a huge milk fan - dropped to 2 feeds a day at 9 months, and now only has about 100ml milk as he prefers to drink water, so I have to get very creative with his diet to get the calcium and fat into him! Still obsessed with my boobs though - loves cuddling up to them - so he clearly remembers the comfort even if he doesn't want the milk, and I really enjoy our cuddles like that, so hopefully Ff will continue with that for you too

Congrats to you skidoodle! Very exciting stuff.

I dream of weaning like you, FfFf. G has been a boob monster the last few days, too, Turtle, so maybe something in the air? Every time I think "I can do this, let's stop" something comes up. Teething, sickness, whatever. I'm so ready for him to be done (mostly b/c he is still up in the night most nights) but I think he still really wants the boob. The times I have tried to replace boob with cows milk and a cuddle just haven't worked. Well, not at 3am anyway.

I must must must stop before the 18-month sleep regression or it's curtains for me and he'll be coming home for a feed at lunch time when he's at school. I'm so weak!

Plus I think my luteal phase is really short due to BF so there's no way I'll to get pg unless I can get my cycle back on track.

If anyone fancies meeting up one Weds, then let's get a thread started....

Jfly- Right there with you. I want to stop, he reaaaaaaally doesn't. My milk will turn back to colostrum in a few weeks. Hoping and praying that will put him off, but am guessing that it wont and I/he will have to go away to baby boot camp to stop.
Meet up a fab idea. Anybody fancy Battersea Park Zoo and picnic?

hello all, another lurker here but just wanted to say congratulations to those who are pregnant, and hello to everyone. We're doing very well. DS is now 14 months and a very happy chap, thank goodness. I'm 24 weeks pregnant I think and getting bigger by the second, remembering the luxury of last time when that was all I needed to think about. This time around it's the last thing on my mind but very exciting all the same!
anyway - just to say I do keep an eye out and wish you all the very best.
with love

omg, where are all these baby #2's popping up from, you're all completely insane and I love you all for it Congratulations to those newly (and not so newly) up the duff!

Now my conjunctivitis has almost gone, I find something else to fret about...
So, before I panic about something I've never heard of , what the heck is 18-month sleep regression and is it compulsory? :

DS 14 months tomorrow, still no inclination to walk as crawling so much faster, but has recently shown signs of possibly taking an extra step from one bit of cruising to the next. Can almost standup unaided, but seems too lazy to really be arsed doing anything except throw tantrums in frustration at the moment. Has taken a shine to Angel the vampire puppet and gives his soft toys big snogs now. Snogs being loving bites to test out those teeth.

HAve given DH permission to go off to London tomorrow for a whole day 1/2 away from us, expect my hair to be grey by the time he's back.
FfFf, how's it going, are the dogs looking after you?
Turtle, MS stopped now or just receding a bit?

evie2000 I remembered today that you were the first off our thread to get pregnant. Hope you are feeling well 24 weeks! It doesn't seem possible.

My sister, who had her DS last July, is due again this September, so it makes it seem like I'm having a really big gap

Dontpanic DD isn't walking yet either, but is really brilliant at crawling so there isn't much motivation for her. She's well able to stand on her own, but she doesn't know it As soon as she realises she's standing unsupported she sits down (in a really slow, controlled way that you could never manage without brilliant balance).

HQ you've just reminded me about "don't offer, don't refuse". I think this is what I meant to try but I forgot about it and just went the "Daddy's has no boobs" route. Now I feel mean because there were times when she was hitting my boobs when I'd distract her by giving her a ginger man.

JFly 18 month sleep regression! there is no call for that kind of language what is the 18msr?

Hi everyone else.

Hi girls! Have been lurking and away- we went up to the Lake District last week where it rained most of the time , but it was beautiful and DH and DD made my 30th a great day!

Battersea Park Zoo looks lovely turtle. I'd be up for it.

How many people are pg again now? 4? wow. Not me yet, but possibly soon Although DH is looking for a new job at the moment so we could be moving this summer which might postpone things for a little while... we'll see!

Meet-up thread

18 month sleep regression described

renaming gg: 'nofear'

he climbed up ds1's tripptrapp and onto the kitchen table this morning. fast. i watched him.

scary, MB!

v exciting night last night. out with the work girls to the river cafe which i've wanted to go to for ages. lovely night made even more exciting by cate blanchett eating at next table! she is very beautiful (even more so than in pictures and on film) and amazingly young looking and i think my friends and i all had a bit of a girlie crush thing going on

ds done something amazing. put more weight on since his birthday than he ever did as a newborn! leapt up from below 9th to 25th centile in 6 weeks! only went to get him weighed to see if he was heavy enough to go in forward facing carseat to find he has sailed over the 9kg mark. i'm now wondering what he has been eating when i haven't been looking.

happy weekends, all

I like your description, MB.

Here's another take on the topic. I think Moxie talks a lot of sense about sleep. The theory is that babies experience developmental leaps at certain stages (4, 9, 18 and even 36 months) that can significantly affect their sleep. Following on from that, there's a suggestion that perhaps sleep training or major shifts in our babies' routine/lives won't be as effective at these stages. Hence my desire to wean G well BEFORE this stage.

There's nothing to say that all babies go through these regressions of course, but if G gets weird[er] about sleep around 18-21 months then at least I've had a heads up and maybe won't go "WTF??". Or move him to a new room, or try potty training, etc. MB and others with older ones, did you experience any of this? Am I being super American about it?

Not that I should be that concerned, as G still doesn't sleep through reliably as it is! I guess I'm still not able to apply all this information I gather from the Interweb.

tbh, ds1 started really properly sleeping throuhgh at 18 months (well, early 20 for him), dropped his very early morning feed, dropped his early waking. shortrened his day time naps, but didn't drop his morngin one for a nother few months as i remember started his obvious dreaming then as well. he also started walking then. it was a time of big change. the last vestige of baby left him then, he was proper little boy.

i suspect gg will probably get really verbal for his big leap, and probably lose his morning sleep. and i hope he will drop his early waking then too!

fwiw, ds1 just didn't seem to get the whole potty training thing for ages, til over 3. i tried in early pg when he was under 3 yrs, but i was vomming too much. he had one horrendous week of weeing everwhere last summer and then bingo he got it so fast. very easy.

Have been up all night with P. Fever 39-40 not changing with calpol. Off to "emergency" appt in a bit that it has taken 6 hours to get. Have never experienced SUCH a hot child the soles of his feet were so hot i couldn't touch them. Have just caught sight of myself in mirror and realised that I will have to explain that it is him not me they are seeing. Sigh. Will have to drive with bucket, methinks. As always, P has suddenly started to brighten up. (Why is it always when DH is away that he does this....)

Turtle that sounds hideous. Is everything ok now? I can't even imagine how upsetting and stressful it must be, especially feeling all rough and morning-sickness-y.

Thanks for the info, JFly and Merryberry, but I think I would prefer to blunder on in ignorance. I have been so spoiled with Ffion and her amazing sleepiness, that I think suddenly having to get up at night would be a huge shock to my system.

She's not walking either. She can stand on her own, and has even managed clapping herself for standing without falling over, but as yet she seems loathe to take steps on her own, other than throwing herself forwards at me. But it'll come, and soon, I'm sure.

HQ Am very jealous of your trip to the River Cafe, and of your celeb spot. That is proper, genuine, A list. I can't imagine how ridiculously I would embarrass myself in the presence of such fame. I once had to phone Bloke from the greengrocer in the village because Raquel from Fools and Horses was in the queue in front of me.

Have made a decision, and I am not offering her a breast feed in the morning. She's not interested other than for a few minutes, so tomorrow morning I'll bring her straight downstairs for breakast. but also . It feels like a huge thing to be doing, when actually I'm probably the only person who'll notice. Did a small experiment when I was dressing her after the bath, and took my top off and knelt down to give her a cuddle. She gave me a cuddle and a pat, gave my left nipple a bit of a tweak, then went on her merry way, which I took to mean that she really isn't that bothered about the booby milk anymore. I think we've had a fairly good run, and I am pleased that I stuck at it when the HV was telling me to top her up, but time for the next stage too. (As long as that next stage doesn't involve sleep regression...)

While I'm here, can I just have a quick whinge, please? Promise I'll be quick. On Thursday eve I couldn't stop shivering, so took my temp and it was 39, along with being tired, achey, and feeling like someone was booting me in the small of the back. Doctor gave me some antibiotics for a kidney infection on Friday, but I still feel like hell, and now I've got a stinking cold too, so whenever I stand up my head starts to bang until I sit down again. It's weekends like this one that I really miss Bloke or wish we were closer to family - it would be nice if someone could just supervise the carnage for an hour or so and let me go back to bed. My friend from uni was meant to be visiting, which I have been very excited about, but I had to put her off, firstly because I would have had to have a bath, brush my hair, and clean the house, and secondly, because what is the point of a reunion with my bestest drinking buddy (seriously, entire days lost, never to be remembered) when I can't have a drink? So I am feeling grumpy and a bit sorry for myself. Sorry, moan over now. 9 weeks down, only eight to go.