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June 07 - Tinsel and baubles all over the floor.........mummy is seething; she can't take any more

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TheTwelveDAISYOfChristmas · 13/12/2008 20:47

hello

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TheButterflyEffect · 18/12/2008 12:15

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TheTwelveDAISYofChristmas · 18/12/2008 12:22

am here still, but have whingy DS2 to deal with.

move to Leeds; I'm your friend

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HaveYourselfAJammyLittleXmas · 18/12/2008 12:31

about the stairs Daisy. Glad you're OK.

And about those other girls and their parents Butterfly. Sounds like a tricky one. I see what you mean about friends being fewer and further between in a rural setting, but that doesn't mean your DD should be treated badly. I think a delicate conversation with the other parents might be in order? But don't envy you that at all.

And it is awkward dealing with other people's children when they are misbehaving. I find myself telling other children things like "I think that maybe you shouldn't empty that bucket of sand out inside the Wendy House" rather than telling them "No, don't do that" unless there is real danger of them hurting someone or themselves.

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HaveYourselfAJammyLittleXmas · 18/12/2008 12:37

Oh, I should be at my work Xmas lunch today (right now in fact). But it was meant to be product release day for DH's work today, big important, busy day, so difficult for him to look after DD. So I cancelled (thankfully got money back). Then they moved the launch day to yesterday and they are out for lunch today for having worked so hard. Which they deserve, of course, but I'm still at home opening my work Secret Santa present on my own and trying to get DD to have a nap instead of being out with all my work mates.

HaveYourselfAJammyLittleXmas · 18/12/2008 12:38

So sod it I'm going to finish the chocolate cake !

deckthehallswithboughsofholly · 18/12/2008 12:42

Daisy quick!! I'll be back later, just had to bring this to daisy's attention!

TheButterflyEffect · 18/12/2008 12:46

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HaveYourselfAJammyLittleXmas · 18/12/2008 12:54

Thanks Butterfly. If I was you I think I would try giving those "friends" a bit of a wide berth (not being rude to them, but not going out of my way to see them) for a while and see how it goes. If anyone commented that I'd not been around much i would then say something like, well with the agro DD was getting I wondered if she was really welcome. (Or I might just mumble something incoherent of course)

TheButterflyEffect · 18/12/2008 13:03

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HaveYourselfAJammyLittleXmas · 18/12/2008 13:06

I don't think you should move unless you have other reasons for doing so. It would seem like giving in and being "run out of town" otherwise. But I do really sympathise.

TheButterflyEffect · 18/12/2008 13:14

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ImDreamingOfANortyXmas · 18/12/2008 13:41

Oh Butterfly....what a horrible situation to be in.

I can't offer any advice as I don't have DCs that age and don't know how different it is when children don't mix together at school and are home educated.

I was taught as a kid to stand up for myself - but with my mouth rather than my fists ....don't know whether that is "right" or not, and I have no idea how I will react when someone treats my DD like that, but I already find myself avoiding my friends who have horrible kids and don't believe in disciplining them. One of my friends lets her DCs jump all over my furniture providing they haven't got their shoes on . when I catch them, I just say that isn't allowed in this house....god only knows how I'd feel if it was my DCs they were treating like that.

A difficult one, but me being me, I would have to say something....

You should move because you want to, not because you feel you have to...

TheButterflyEffect · 18/12/2008 13:58

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Ohforfoxsake · 18/12/2008 14:39

Hello all,

not caught up, but wanted to get back to you Butterfly.

I'm with you, my children all know how to behave because they have had firm boundries set. This is just how I see things, and we might handle the same situation very differently, but this is my view, if it helps (which I hope it does). I worry about being a bit bossy sometimes BTW!

Yes, you absolutely can step in with regard to other people's children if they are not being effective and your children are suffering.

I'm fairly forthright (you'd never have guessed, huh?) and would step in. If you suspect DD is being spoken to unkindly, you can speak to the other girls (preferably when the other mum isn't around). Its how you do it. I like to adopt a 'sing-song' manner. all laaa-laaa-laaa, lets be lovely to each other, with an undertone of "I know what is going on, I am watching you."

I think it is rude to discipline or tell off a child if the parent is there. However, if that parent is crap, I will over-rule them. In my sing-song manner

Consistency is so important, and by standing up for our children, we are leading by example.

So please, don't ever feel you can't say anything because you are in someone else's house.

Alternatively, have them over to your house where the boundries are firmly set and teach the brats a lesson - I mean in how to behave appropriately, not in any other way!

Ohforfoxsake · 18/12/2008 15:00

Ouch Daisy! Hope you are OK and not too sore

Bumper, valve? what valve? been using those for years ...

my theory was wrong BTW. I suspect DD2 has gotten used to coming into the living room during the evening wake-up when she was ill and wants to make a habit of it. Going cold-turkey tonight.

HaveYourselfAJammyLittleXmas · 18/12/2008 15:41

Just realised that DH borrowed a tenner before going out. So not only is he out for lunch (and still not back at gone 3.30!) when I should have been out, it's being paid for with MY cash! The more I think about it the more I am.

Have succumbed to the idea of new pjs for jamlet for Christmas Eve. Upsy Daisy ones from Woolies. Feel lovely and thick, and we'll be at my ILs with no central heating, so that's my justification (if I need any).

TheTwelveDAISYofChristmas · 18/12/2008 16:05

arse. DD has just cut herself trying to cut her fingernails with clippers.

DS has come a cropper at school and has a mahoosive bruise on his thigh.

We are running out of Arnica cream here today!

Thanks for the heads up holly, but I've only just seen it so probably too late.

But, if anyone is interested in nappies I have some information on a forum looking for volunteers/testers. email/fb me if you are interested. It involves getting to Glasgow maybe once or twice a year....so Tallulah? Butterfly?

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TheButterflyEffect · 18/12/2008 16:40

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TALLULAHBELLE · 18/12/2008 16:50

Am interested Daisy. Have emailed you for details. Thanks.

Would love to test double buggies too - is it worth asking my consultant to section/induce me tomorrow so have the necessary weans in time?

TheButterflyEffect · 18/12/2008 17:10

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DontCallMeSantaBaby · 18/12/2008 17:16

Sorry to intrude, but I have a message for Bumper and I know she'll be back here before too long! Bumper, I didn't get round to emailing you back at work, and I've missed you now haven't I? Just wanted to say have a lovely Christmas and hope you can forget about the 'orrible place for two weeks!

WewishyouaBUMPERLICIOUS · 18/12/2008 17:41

Oooh hello DCMB! Just got in from town. Thanks very much, hope you have a good'n as well! Can't wait for my break.

WewishyouaBUMPERLICIOUS · 18/12/2008 17:46

Hi to the rest of you. Foxy, we did cold turkey with dd night before last. She cried for 25 mins . But she'd been up 3 nights in a row and while she wasn't very well she just wanted to play when she was up. Last night was better, though she did cry herself to sleep again.

Daisy, hope you are feeling better.

Butterfly, you are lovely, I wish we were closer.

Ohforfoxsake · 18/12/2008 20:02

Thanks Bumper. that's very reassuring. Good to know its not just us. Its hard though, isn't it? Haven't let her cry before. But I know she's just trying her luck.