June 07 PN - Christmas is coming, and our little puddings are becoming cheeky monkeys. Will Santa come?

[educatingRia]

best I could come up with on my enforced alcohol limitation

Exactly fairy, that's what I told him. It's his fault for leaving the bag in the living room. He drew all over the Mac with a Sharpie the other day, luckily it came off with nail varnish remover, but it took me over an hour to get it all off. That was my fault, I left the pen on the windowsill, he climbed onto the computer table and fished it off! He is a little bugger!

I shan't be posting on the bf/ff boards again.

Not sad at all to be in bed at 7. I wish I was! Sorry you've had a bad day.

Butterfly, that site with the bath bombs on is brillo! I'm buying dd some little bits and bobs from there so we can make some Christmas pressies. She'll love it!

holly, it's a shame your thread went loopy; they all do in the end when it comes to choices. I also can't understand why it has to get so polarised and would never knowingly criticise anyone's choice (I say knowingly as I did upset someone on a thread about bedtime formula a while ago, but I didn't mean to iyswim?)

sorry you've had a bad day natty.

and that your thread went the way of all threads where there is someone who knows better holly. BTW I forgot to add that DS1 also had hungry baby milk, but as I'd starved him for 6 weeks I'm not surprised. He was a seriously porky toddler but I have been trying to fatten him up for a couple of years now. That probably has no bearing on your argument. Will your actual debate get nasty or are they level-headed, open-minded types in your group?

thank you for having lovely manners MMR.

I don't think I'm brave enough for bath bombs.

Would it be wrong to text my mum and teach her the word "wanker" in reference to David Van Day???

Hi fairy, glad the crayon came off.

oh, and holly, fwiw I was totally swayed by Aptamil's "closer to breastmilk" line when I switched to FF with DS. That and the fact that it was more expensive than the others said to me that it was obviously better ...and that was based purely on the consumer aspect of the advertising. I think the vague and fluffy advertising should be banned and be replaced with factual information available at a HCP level. The targetting of HCPs by the formula companies should also stop. VS's post on your thread is very good and I kind of agree with what she is saying.

Aptamil's message is still getting across as well as a few of the women on my nov thread are using it as it's....."closer to breastmilk"

and sorry for your bad day Natty. God knows my two are testing enough at times without the added challenges of SN

When the HV was in earlier today, DD was doing her utmost to get all the attention focussed on her.....and was always putting herself in between the baby and the HV. We've spent a bit of quality time together this evening though and she went off to bed in a much better frame of mind.

I think i need a break from the pooter. what with allmy Mneing and the patting and rubbing of the baby trying to get some wind out of him, my right hand and arm are aching. I think I have RSI from all the baby rubbing!!

daisy, when did you get leaky??? I've only just noticed!

lol ria.....I changed it when I changed back from MRR earlier

wondered how long it would take someone to notice

long enough!

I am off to do some xmas planning with my catalogues, in the hope that one day soon we will go into town.

Have a good break jammy

night all

brrrr, it's cold today, and there's a big black cloud lurking

DH off to the docs this morning (phew).

its is really really cold.. im shivering in my living room lol
still no washing machine.. not till monday now..
but im sure on monday it wont be till wednesday, and on wednesday it wont be till friday..

Bloody freezing here too Natty.

Holly, I didn't see your thread. I fucking hate bf/ff threads and have hidden them following being patronised and dismissed. I know nothing about bf apparently

FWIW I don't think formula should be portrayed as poison. I think it should be promoted as an alternative. Its not giving Absinth to a baby, its processed cows milk ffs. By banning it you are essentially saying there is something wrong with it, when in most walks of life (I think MN is the exception) it is perfectly acceptable. Only on here is it the devil's own spew.

My real arguement comes with medical professionals being too ready to recommend it. To me that takes away an element of personal choice. Advertising gives you a choice, makes you aware of brands and what is available. A HV tells you to 'get her [the baby] on Aptimil' is where the problem is IME. The vast majority of mother's will not question that advice - and rightly so - we should be able to trust our HPs.

Perhaps Formula companies could put less money into advertising and more into education. Let people know of the benefits of bf, address the balance a bit. Of course this is a contradiction.

Just read your thread Holly. I actually thought it was going quite well until the 'expert' arrived

No one around then? Oh well, LO removing my hands from keyboard - v hard to type

she is walking. and pulling every thing off the shelves. and posting throu
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and dancing. points to the stereo to put music on she's utterly adorable

I am full on into Christmas

Just read your thread Holly. I actually thought it was going quite well until the 'expert' arrived

No one around then? Oh well, LO removing my hands from keyboard - v hard to type

she is walking. and pulling every thing off the shelves. and posting throu
GH T
HEFLoorboards

and dancing. points to the stereo to put music on she's utterly adorable

I am full on into Christmas

still here. had an excellent idea for PILs xmas. DH said, "taht'll be alright". why couldn't he say "what an excellent idea, they'll love it"?

off to the supermarket shortly. Just getting DH to apply for 2 new jobs first. I need an xmas fund boost

hi foxy. baggins playing with a plug switch. why don't socket guards cover the switch too?

must go, back later.

can't believe I've got time to while away on here and no one is around! I've been busy for ageeeees, and now there's no one to chat to.

Guess Daisy is getting ready for her close up

fuck it. will tidy up then.

Hey Butterfly

Yes, Channel 4 news are filming at hers with her doula - something to do with doula tax??? did I understand that correctly? Might not be on tonight, but I have set my Sky+ anyway

I got flamed for thinking diet affected bm ages ago. I'm not convinced that it still doesn't, but wanted to understand why it might not. What she said makes sense to some degree, but I still don't accept that nutrional quality of someones bm who eats well and conscienciously is the same as a woman in a third world country, as I was told before.

How are things with you?

Now I have to dash to do the school run! gah! I'll be back later as DP away again this weekend

Hey Butterfly

Yes, Channel 4 news are filming at hers with her doula - something to do with doula tax??? did I understand that correctly? Might not be on tonight, but I have set my Sky+ anyway

I got flamed for thinking diet affected bm ages ago. I'm not convinced that it still doesn't, but wanted to understand why it might not. What she said makes sense to some degree, but I still don't accept that nutrional quality of someones bm who eats well and conscienciously is the same as a woman in a third world country, as I was told before.

How are things with you?

Now I have to dash to do the school run! gah! I'll be back later as DP away again this weekend