May 07: The one where SOH gets her tweed clothes and LG&T doesn't get any...

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this may be a better option for your kitchen TYG

Well done PJ, we also took DD2 downstairs in the night and when she was 18 months it took 3 nights of her screaming to break the habit - keep at it.

TYG - L is def a 3 hourly feeder - he goes to sleep at around 9pm and goes to bed. He wakes between 2-3am and then again 4-5am - it is very tiring! Had a really bad night with him last night, I think because I had been cutting back on the gaviscon and his pain from the reflux came back . Had to start giving him it again.

L also knocks his dummy out more than it is in. He did suck his thumb for a few days but gave up on that. Don't think we will be giving it up any time soon though.

I am soooo tired I am going to bed now

at the plastic bin.

DH has just said we have to stop spending money. He always does this when the markets tank. Nevertheless, will probably have to keep the dinted bin for a while... He'd have a fit if I spent a ton on a new bin. Going to be sliiiighly embarrassing when the cleaner comes tomorrow.

"Oh, what ggghhhappened to your biiin MrsTYG?" (That was a phonetic Polish accent in case you're wondering.)

Oh and we have one of those posters, TMAM. SIL bought one for DH. Must actually put it up...

Lastly, SKY, has he always been this unsettled? Have you ruled out growth spurt and overtiredness?

It's a bloody bugger when they feed all through the night like that. It WILL get better though. You should be almost over the worst of it now. As I recall, A started sleeping a little longer around 4 months and then was sleeping through by 6 months.

You're not getting up to every sound are you? It's hard not to when they're in the room with you, but I genuinely believe that I was hopping out of bed unnecessarily with A for a while. Once I turned off the monitor she "slept" longer. I was leaping out of bed for a murmur, thinking at least she should go straight back to sleep after a feed, but when I left her, I realised she was just having a mooch around and wasn't hungry.

Anyway, even if it's definitely hunger, it won't last forever. The end is in sight!

Hi all, not having a good week, my Mum rang on Tuesday and said if you want to se your Nana again you'd better get over here. I put the phone down and drove like a loony but she died whilst I was on my way.

She has been on oxygen for ages and was not a well woman but I thought she would be here until christmas or at least until after DDs birthday next week. I saw her on Sunday and we talked about what I had bought from her for DDs birthday. The funeral is next Friday, day before DDs birthday. This morning DD decided she was going to draw a cottage for Nana to live in and put it in her box with her and she wants to bake her some buns as well. The poor child has had too many deaths to deal with I am sure, as I know I have.

There was a record from the nurse in her notes on Tuesday saying she wanted to come and live with her grandaughter (me, I had been trying to convince her to move in with us and I would take unpaid leave) but she was not sure she could cope with the upheaval. I think my Mum might have put her off as she (my Mum) didn't speak to me for a few days after she found out I had asked Nana to live with me.

I am gutted. Apart from DH and the kids she is the only other person I had left that I really give a s**t about. I don't really get on with my Mum. She is the kind of person who left my Nana in a nightie and bed covered in sick and took her wedding ring off her to stop the funeral directors removing it and selling it . I picked my Nana up and washed her down then put her a clean nightie on. My mum and a home help changed the bed whilst I picked her up, she weighed nothing. I had a go at my Mum so she put my Nanas original wedding ring back on (she was wearing a new one as her original had worn so thin.) Is it just me that thinks this is horrific or do all people remove wedding rings?

Just feel so low at the minute, just not looking forward to christmas anymore now. I have had my grandparents round for christmas lunch/boxing day ever since I had my own house. This year I have none left. I know I am lucky to have met all my Grandparents and had three of them until recently but it is still crap.

Sorry just needed to get it off my chest. Hope you are all okay and those babbas are well and staying put in you preggas ladies and sleeping well for the rest of you.

Must go as knackered and DH snoring next to me. [weak attempt at smile emoticon]

Charley, I am so sorry to hear that, especially that she didn't make it to dd's birthday and Christmas. Perhaps your mum wanted to keep the ring as remembrance of both your nana and your grandad, you know as a symbol of their life together? She probably wasn't thinking too straight either. How lovely though that you were so close to your Nana and that you cared so much. Could you plant a special tree to remember her by, in your new garden?

Charley am so sorry what an awful time you are having. I do think its lovely that DD wanted to draw her a picture. Emotions will be running high take a deep breath my love and give your munchkins a little extra squish. x

Oh CM I am so sorry about your Nana. You must be devastated. I wish i could give you a huge hug.

CM - sorry about your nana. Sending you lots of hugs and thinking about you. ((( )))

Thank you, think I would go mad without you lot. Actually perhaps I am mad and I just fit in with you lot.

Mum has rung today and had a go at me, I have been into work the last two days but told her I would be off today. She asked what time I would be visiting her. I had planned to spend the day with DH, we are getting some shopping delivered and the house is a mess as the electricians have been here the last two days and we have had to move furniture and all sorts. I am taking the kids to nursery this morning and getting them after lunch so we can have a nice family afternoon. She was not best pleased so asked me what time I would be over tomorrow and I am driving the van for some friends who are moving house, it has been arranged for ages. So deffo not pleased.

Apparently I am co-executor and have to do half the work. Bearing in mind I wanted to go to the registry office with her and she made the apt at a time when I couldn't get.

TMAM how nice of you to give her the benefit of the doubt , it is just something she does, she took the wedding ring off my other Nana (just before she died) who died last year and I and my Nanas brother made her put it back on.
She has a thing about funeral directors raiding dead bodies.

She has rung me up almost every other day to moan about how many times Nana rings her up or wants a visit or wants something doing and has already said it now means she might be able to go away at Christmas. Unfortunately although she did actually do a lot Nana was a burden to her and she let everyone know it. Now she is going to do the weeping orphan thing and claim her life has been on hold whilst she cared for my Nana. She told me the night she died. I've lost my Mum, remember how you felt losing your Dad, thats how I feel now. Thanks for that Mum as if I needed reminding my Dad is dead when I am grief stricken about my Nana. She seeks attention and she is already asserting her role as chief mourner.

Oh god I sound like a right bitch don't I, sorry. I have just been biting my tongue the last few months as she moaned about Nana as I didn't want Nana to know how she was moaning about her and I didn't want to fall out whilst Nana was still here. Realistically though I am fuming with her.

G still in bed he was up last night coughing in his sleep.

Will go and get him up now or he wont sleep tonight. as I don't think it's sunk in yet.

Thanks for your words of comfort Jam have squeezed the DCs big style, and thanks for the hug Gin.

Sorry charley...I think you will have to leave your Mum to react however she wants and concentrate on getting yourself through it.When someone is intent on seeing things all their own way the best course is to ignore ignore ignore as far a humanly possible.You cant change the way she is going to be.Try not to give it any headspace.(I know is easier said than done)

Please give me a ring if you need to cry,or scream or talk about your nan or anything else..I think one of the worst things about death is how lonely the people left can feel when they are coping with their grief.Here if you need me..

Charley I'm really so sorry for you. I'm also close to my nana so reading your post really tugged extra hard.

Deaths, wills and how arrangements are made are such a big factor in enormous family fallings out. It's incredibly hard, but try to take a step back and only worry about the really important stuff. Let the other niggles and annoyances go. You're upset enough already without having to deal with crap.

Lots of love to you and your family.

CM- I'm so sorry about your nana

Charley, I am so sorry to hear about your Nana. What a lovely thing for your dd to want to do. Sending you and your family lots of big hugs xxx

SOH is here - just not posting on our thread. Come back SOH!

hello all. just had a quick skim,
CM so sry about your nana (and mum situation)

thinking about the sleep/nights thing.
do our LO get a growth spurt around this time?

F is eating a lot better at nursery im told BUT he still screams for milk at 5am (has 9oz and ofter necks it and asks for more.
He does the same in the evening tbh....had 9oz just before bed and asks for more.

tiz a lot of milk for a 18 month old but..if he wants it i dont want to deny it.
nursery say he eats and drinks well.
(and he often has a second tea at my sisters about 5.30. with water too.)
he sleeps around 2 hrs at nursery and doesnt go to bed til 7.45.
but STILL wakesup at 5.10 every day!(so thats when our day starts which isnts doing me any favours working full time and sure it cant be good for freddie either)
also driving to devon tonight after work from herts....at least dh can share driving coz we both shattered.

oh and laughing about the bin! you must have given a right good shooing!

Charley - really sorry to hear about your Nana I can sympathise about your mum situation as well. My mum and I have a awful strained rl and its the sort of thing I can imagine her doing (she's obsessed with money etc )

MID-Shooing!What an excellent word!
Lily woke up at 5 am daily until about 3 months ago.Now its more like 6-6.30.Mae still up at 5, like clockwork every morning yelling for her milk.There is nothing you can do about it.Some kids are up with the lark..no amount of feeding, cutting back on naps, drugs will help it, (I know.I have tried them all.Not the drugs obv).You just have to hope and pray they grow out of it and be resigned to being in bed yourself by 9pm to have any chance of
not collapsing with exhaustion.You have my sympathies indeed.Do you get the noon lag like me?Get to 12-1pm, you've been up for 7-8 hours and could easily go to sleep but then you realise with horror you've half a day left at work, plus a bedtime to get through and you've nothing left in the tank?

I have a bad back today (my trick back is as you will all remember, my nemesis)I was finding it hard to move this morning.DH said he would finish work early to help me out as I would struggle with the kids, not being able to lift, walk around with any ease etc..He has just now walked through the door.I beg of you!I truly hope he never gets a bad back.Because if he does he will get no sympathy from me and I will leave him with two rambunctious toddlers and a mental cat to deal with.Grrr.

goes off to dose self up with codeine and paracetomal and Ibuprofen.Wonders why she feels slightly spaced out

CM; I'm so sorry about your nana, sounds like you and your Mum need some space for a while if possible but be careful it's not too long. Lots of Love and hugs to you and your family. xx

CM - I am really sorry to hear about your Nana. It sounds as if you made her happy towards the end - the fact that you had asked her to come and live with you will have made her realise how much you cared and loved her. Your mum might be feeling uncomfortable that you were clearly closer to your nana than your mum was. Your DD sounds lovely - what a sweetie. x

MID, F might actually just be hungry at 5am. My SILs middle boy is 6 and she's lucky to get him to sleep til 6am. He eats like a bird and is starving by 5 or 6. Try loading F up with protein and fat just before bed. Bath and then "supper" right before bed. Try it for a couple of weeks though, because he'll be in a waking habit as well.

The only other thing is that if he's drinking more than about a pint of milk a day, he might be full of milk, so not able to "bulk up" on other foods.

Otherwise, I'm afraid as Scoot says, you'll just have to go to bed early.

When he's a bit older, you'll be able to leave a banana and a drink of water in his room at night, to have as soon as he wakes, then he can play til its time to get up.

FWIW, 7.45 bed is quite late if he's waking that early. Most children need 10-12 hours at night, so he definitely really needs his daytime naps, IMO.

I'm cross i think i may even flounce.

In the meantime, before I flounce, I want anyone who wants to do secret santa to email me before MONDAY. The list is lacking... stephensonkuk at yahoo dot co dot uk

PS Charley I hope today has been a bit better. xx

bloody nora you cant flounce whats up love.