APRIL 2008 - The One Where They Can Eat Food!!!!

[VictorianSqualor]

Our Babies

07 March: Ashton, a fourth child for gemprincess, 5lb 13oz @ 34+6
09 March: Ted, a second DS for Daftmoo, 7lb 14oz @ 36+0
21 March: George William, a first baby for KnitterintheNW, 7lb 2.5oz @ 37+3
25 March: Olivia, a second baby for TheMaskedPoster, 7lb 2oz @ 38+4
28 March: Pablo, a third baby and first DS for vacaloca, 7lb 14oz @ 39+4
28 March: Matteo Alexander, a first baby for Gangle @ 38+0 (?)
30 March: A baby girl, a second child for PortAndLemon, 8lb 15oz @ 39+5
02 April: Jak, a baby boy for rainbowdays, 9lb @ 39+1
02 April: A baby boy, a second child for bunyanvillas, 6lb 14oz @ 37+5
02April: Struan, a baby boy for Donnabels, 6lbs 15oz
02 April: A baby boy for mummyofaprincess @39 weeks
03 April: A baby girl for PippiCalzelunghe @38+2weeks
03 April: Aeryn Daisy, a baby girl for Denny185, 9lb 8oz @ 39+3
03 April: Benjamin, a baby boy for Micegg, 8lb 3oz @ 39+4
03 April: Roelof Grové, a first DS for SalLikesCoffee, 7lb 5oz @ 38+5
03 April: A baby boy for siikibam, 6lb 8.5oz @39+1wks
04 April: Matilda, a baby girl for AprilsFoolsBaby 7lb @
05 April: Ellis, a baby girl for MadameOvary
06 April: Henry Peter, a baby boy for Sheds, 7lb 130z @ 40+4
07 April: Sebastian George, a fourth DS for Peachy, 8lb 4oz @ 41+1
07 April: Jack, a first baby for ThePFJ, 7lb 5.5oz @ 41+1
07 April: Lexie Bea, a fourth baby for babywhiting, 8lb 1oz @ 39+4
08 April: Alasdair, a second DS for bunnyrabbit, 8lb 5.5oz @ 40+3
08 April: James Samuel, a third baby for honeybee10, 6lb 7oz @ 37+2
09 April: Zara Mia Martin, a first baby for V1KK1M, 7lb 10oz @ 41+0
09 April: Jasmine, a baby gilr for Niceychops
11 April: Kyran for rdk, 7lb 13oz @ 38+3weeks
11 April: Sebastian James, a second baby for Fleecy, 10lb 2oz @ 40+4
11 April: A baby girl, a first baby for CeylonSapphire, 7lb 12oz @ 41+1
11th April: Florence, a baby girl for LouMoose
12 April: Maya Alice, a first baby for egyptianprincess, 8lb 15.5oz @ 40+3
12 April: Sophia Viviana, a second DD for AussieDivaonaBreak, 6lb 12oz @ 39+3
15 April: Alexander Oliver, a third baby for VictorianSqualor, 10lb 3oz @ 41+0
16 April: Ailish, a first baby for Mollyfloss, 6lb 11oz @ 40+3
16 April: A baby girl, a second baby for elfsmummy, 7lb 13oz @ 41+1
16 April: Zoe, a baby girl, a first baby for ToastAddict, 6lb 10oz @ 39+3
16 April: Jasmin, a baby girl, a first baby for Eggandketchup, 9lb 3oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy for paranoidmumy, 8lb 9oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy, a second son for lorisparkle, 7lb 12.5oz @ 41+6
17 April: Benedict, first baby for LadyBee 9 lb 3oz @ 41 +2
18 April: Millie, a baby girl for scorpio1 8lb 9oz @ 41+?
18 April: Cameron, a second baby for munchkinmum @ 39+5
19 April: Oliver Michael, first baby for bashboid, 7 lb 4 oz at 41 +3
20 April: Samuel, a first baby for Velbels. 8lb15oz at 41+1weeks.
20 April: Angharad Mai, 8lb 4oz, 40+6, first for 7monthsplus
20 April: Emilia, 7lb15oz, a first baby for SuzeM, 40+6
20 April: A baby girl for SushiMama
21 April: Eve, a second baby for OMaLittle, 8lb 4oz @ 39+3
21 April: A second DD for Monmoo
22 April: Sam, a second son for Soph73 @ 40+0
22 April: Molly, a first baby for EllieG, 8lb 8oz? @ 40+5
22 April: Daisy, second baby for AttilaTheHan @ 40 +3
22 April: Zoe Olivia, second daughter for Piccallilli2 7lb 1oz @42+1
22 April: A second DD for blinks.
23 April: Jessica Elizabeth, first baby for BabyBratt @ 40+1 7lb 12oz.
24 April: A baby girl, a second daughter for christmaspixie, 9lb 2oz @ 40+6/41+5
24 April: Miya Jade, baby girl for ShelleySare at 39+4
25 April: Amelie, a first baby for Dondons, 9lb, 41+3 (i think!)
25 April: Aisha, a second baby for Jaq39 7lb 14oz @ 41+4
26 April: Hope Olivia, a second dd for northeastmummy, 7lb 11oz at 41 .
26 April: Gabriel, a third child for Bainmarie @ 41+5
26 April: Eli Michael, a baby boy for LittleMissTurquoise, 7lb 15.5oz @ 40+5
27 April: a baby girl for Ayomi, 6lb 1oz @ 41+0
28 April: Jacob Andrew, a 2nd DS for Kaybeeand2boys, 8lb 4oz @ 41+5
29 April: Thomas Henry, a 2nd DS for TLSM, 7lb 8oz 40+3
30 April: Harry Samuel, a fourth ds for Chipmonkey, 9lb 5oz @ 39+2
30 April: Ellie, a baby girl for Annamama
30 April: A second DD for luckymummy74
01 May: Sophie May, a baby grl for Annieroo, 6lb 5oz @ 41+4
01 May: Euan George, a baby boy for Jenniejennie, 8lb @ 40+4
02 May: Robyn Olivia, a baby girl for soph28, 8lb 1oz @ 42+1
05 May: Nora Martina, a first baby for Eva07, 7lb 8oz @ 41+2
05 May: A baby boy for Beeper, 8lb 10oz @ 41+0
05 May: Gabriella Summer, a first baby for MommyHasAHeadache, 8lb 4oz @ 40+6
06 May: Wilf, 8lb 60z for bigbadmom @ 41+6
07 May: James Andrew, a second ds for Moominsmummy, 8lb 13oz @ 41+5
08 May: Ellie Isabella, a first baby for Carey87, 7 lb 8oz @ 42+1
08 May: Robin David, a 2nd baby for Woollymummy, 8lb 11 oz @ 41+3
09 May: 4 kittens for scorpio's cat!
10 May: Astrid Mary, a second dd for TheShipsCat, 8lb 8oz @ 42+0

Sal, that's quite odd of R - poor little chap..and what a good humoured one not to kick up a huge fuss
Here's hoping that R just decides one day that he doesn't need his midnight snacks, huh?

One of my RL postnatal group has offered to do some ad hoc minding so I've taken up her offer and asked her to watch B while I attend my PND counselling sessions (counsellor asked me if it would be poss. not to bring him..good incentive). Spent some time today with her, so that she could give B a bottle, get him used to being in their house etc. It all went really well, so hopefully should be ok on Tuesday. It'll be the first time I've left him with someone who isn't family. Am feeling very brave , but she's lovely, so gentle and calm. She has a baby girl the same age as our babies, and a boy who is about 18 months I think, who will be in nursery while she minds B.

That sounds good ladybee, he will be fine, and you need to use that time just for you

Hope you're OK scorpio xxx

Oh dear, snuffly is awake. Off I go....

Now that I won't mind, Ladybee!

It's great that you have the friend to babysit. You'll see it'll be fine and then it's going to be so much easier as you might take turns for eachother every now and again. I find it incredibly good to be able to spend time with dh alone every now and again. Not that we don't love being with R obviously.

Hope babies get over their colds soon and thanks 4 the science lesson ladybee think u might be right about tesco's not stocking that one.

Just looking at this when dh walked in and looked over my shoulder enquiring why i need a thickener - how did he know what it was??

I had no idea what xanthan gum was either! I'm guessing if I use 'normal' flour I won't need the xg?

I was just thinking about it in the bath, and was half wondering if it was anything like xylitol... that's good for diabetics. It's like sugar but doesn't send your sugar levels soaring. Seems it's nothing to do with that though!

George has been having a good stab at sitting over the last few days, getting better every day. He can do it for maybe 10 seconds at a time now, or until he spots something to one side of him and topples over! His other new thing is standing up like a meercat on our laps. He looks so grown up!

standing up holding our hands, obviously, not by himself!

He's trying to crawl too, and can get across the floor if someone puts their hands where his feet are so he can push himself along.

Sitting? crawling? standing? My lazy lump just stays where shes put not showing much interest in anything she has to physically partake in. Still shes v cute

Ah yes, but your 'lazy lump' does sleeping at night time doesn't she?! Maybe they can give each other tips when we go to the trafford centre!

Hello all! We've had a nice weekend. Spent Sat at Sal's learning how to save our LO's lives if ever need be (please never), eating Sal's delicious home cooking, and watching Gigi take over R's toys! Thanks again for a lvely day Sal!

Today we went to Bluewater for a childfree lunch and a movie (thanks mom for babysitting!) - so nice to have some us time - have to agree with you there Sal!

Also had a bit of a fright with Gigi this evening - she wailed a bit, was quiet then started wiling again. Went to check on her, after also considering just leaving her a bit, and found her on her stuck on her tummy, face in the bedclothes. My poor baby!!!

Oh, also, she has a rash on her tummy. Little red raised bumps. No temp and seems fine, but taking her to the Dr tomorrow to get her checked out anyway.

LadyBee and Sal - you are so lucky to have regular babysitters. DH is not keen on strangers looking after Gigi, but then again wasn't too keen for my mom to either! Hence my lack of social life!

cool! I haven't tried the hands behind feet thing, might give that a go tomorrow and see whether B can start going forwards instead of backwards.

B just woke up howling, went up and he's got terrible trapped wind, did leg cycling etc he managed to release a stream of farts and sighed in relief
New food today was banana. Is this a common reaction to banana?

I used to love going to bluewater when I lived in London, although I did like it less when the camper shop (shoes not tents) disappeared.

A few of our RL postnatal group have been talking about starting a babysitting circle, but I won't be much use at the moment cos G won't take a bottle, so I can't leave him at home with DH and go to babysit somewhere else. Similarly they won't be able to come and babysit here either as he's still waking up quite a lot. We're going to tackle it when the spare room's sorted and he goes in there.

Does anyone know how to actually do the PU/PD technique? I've borrowed the baby whisperer book from friend but can only find references to having used the technique on different babies, not how to actually carry it out. I get that you pick them up til they stop crying then put them down again, but how long do you leave it til you do it gain? Straight away? Or leave it a few mins longer each time like with CC? I need to get the plan of action set in my head before we go for it, I can't bear to hear him cry. But he is a little monkey and has me wrapped round his little finger, and is getting worse at going to bed.

Banana makes George quite bunged up, so it could very well be that that slowed his insides down. Apricots are fab at getting them going again!

oh, must type faster am several posts behind

• poor gigi with rash , hope it's nothing serious MommyHAH. And also hope that today's outing has eased your DH's worries about your mom babysitting and can do it a bit more.

Is your mom visiting or is she based here permanently?

Oh poor Gigi! Hope the tummy rash is nothing. Seems like all the lo's are on a mission to give us all heart attacks!

at B's farting. Never thought burping and farting could cheer you up so much pre-baby!

Knitter, sorry, don't really know re pu/pd.

knitter there's a babywhisperer website/forum thingy, that might have more detail.
I have a feeling that there is no waiting, you go in and comfort immediately, put down as soon as baby is calm again repeating whatever 'time to sleep' phrase you choose, eg. 'time for sleep now, you'll feel better when you wake up' or whatever. If baby starts crying on the way down, you touch them to the mattress and pick up again.
God knows where I picked that up from though, sleep thread??

MommyHasaH - I've also thought we might sucker our dh's into looking after G and R and then run off to do the Big Ice Cream Tasting when I'm back as that won't tecnically count as childcare

Ladybee, so you continue until he doesn't cry when put don't anymore? Sounds interesting, might go and search for that website now.

Baby whisperer site appears to be broken. I suppose I could search the MN archives! I always forget to do that.

Knitter, what I do is go in and pick E up, hold her for a few minutes until she calms down and stops crying, but don't say anything except shh in her ear to calm her. I then put her back down in her cot, go back in 5 minutes if she is still crying, pick her up but don't engage her, and repeat as needed.

Ellie, hope Molly feels better soon.

Probably won't be on here much in the future so all the best to you and your beautiful babies, and thanks for the chat over the last year.

yup, I think you just continue putting them down awake but calmed, if they cry you wait just a minute to see whether they're 'settling down' cries or whether they 'winding up; cries, if winding up pick up and comfort however, when they calm down, put back down...repeat until baby does a settling down to sleep. I think the theory is that baby will eventually learn to settle to sleep from awake.
I think if you were going to try it, it would be best to try it on daytime naps first though, could imagine it could be quite exhausting at the end of the day or middle of night.

Hi everyone (it's Soph28 BTW)

Can't believe 6mo have gone. Well Robyn isn't quite 6mo as she went into May, but almost. She can sit by herself for quite a long time before faceplanting. She loves being on her tummy and will flip herself over as soon as you put her down and roll all over the place. She's very good at playing and picking things up. She finds her dummy and picks it up, turns it round and puts it in.

Denny, dd1 was like that- she did NOTHING for a whole year! (well she could sit up) It's quite nice having a baby who can't go anywhere.

I'm trying to decide whether to wean Robyn off the dummy as she wakes up through the night for it. Only trouble is she cries for ages and my other 2 are in the room next door.

Oh I think the baby whisperer website stopped when Tracey Hogg died (a couple of years ago- she had cancer). I have the book but I lent it to someone.

I did PUPD with A when his night time naps went everywhere.

What is G sleeping like in the day Knitter? I found that once I sorted the daytime naps then A went much better through the night. He is still having a dream feed at about 11ish but then he doesn't wake until 5/6 for his 'early morning feed' and sleep until I get him up, usually about 7:30/8:15ish.

PUPD is basically what LadyBee says. You put baby in the cot, and pretty much as soon as they cry (we ignored whinging, A whinges in his sleep) but if they cry you go in, pick them up, soothe them (we did hold him upright, pat his back and say 'shh''shh''shh'..but it seems to work better now if we sit in the rocking chair and go back and forth saying 'shh''shh''shh') then once you think they are calm enough to go back to bed (If A is properly calmed he'll settle for about 20 minutes and then moan or go straight to sleep, he only really kicks off if we haven't calmed him properly) you put them back down and say the same thing every time. (We say time 'for sleep, nanites now darling' stroke his head and give him a kiss and a smile - this went totally against everything I knew as I was a 'no eye contact' sleep person with the other two and they slept great). If they start to complain when they are going back down you carry on til they have touched the mattress and then start again.

As I was associated with food DP did it first and it worked really well. Now he doesn't settle straight away roughly one night in four and DP usually goes to him and sorts it out, we are at about two/three PUPDs now before he goes to sleep. Night wakings are constant at one early morning one aswell.

Thanks for that Suze, Ladybee and VS.

Knitter, I've got the Baby Whisperer book but never got around to reading it and now just can't be fussed to be honest. If you mail me your address I can post it to you.

Love your (halloween?) name, Soph/thatsnotmymonster.

Denny needs to be tracked down as I think she must have toe cramps by now: R only woke once last night!!! Thanks, and feel free to repeat the crossing everything tonight

Anyone knows whether Oma left / on holiday / busy with her two? I miss her, but don't want to stalk her if she's just busy with rl.

Don't you just hate waiting for the phone to ring?
We got a call quite late last night, DP's grandmother has been rushed into hospital. His grandfather tried to wake her and couldn't rouse her so he called DP's mum and when she got there she called an ambulance. The docs think that her kidneys are failing and the medication she had used for them to keep them working has stopped working now. It's not looking good. She hasn't really regained consciousness since yesterday and the docs said that they wanted things to get better quickly but there has been no change.

Thing is, though I'm worried about her, it's nowhere near the amount of emotion DP is feeling right now and I have no idea what to say to him.

I'm quite hard-hearted in a 'what will be, will be' way and tbh quite annoyed that his Dad rang him so late when it was his first day on duty today. His mum knew this, which I'm 100% sure is why she didn't call but his Dad is so fucking melodramatic, he would have enjoyed making that call.

Now I feel shit cos I know how tired I am after being up half the night, and I've not had to go anywhere, yet poor DP has a 10 hour shift ahead of him, his first ever shift and on top of that the worry about his nan, on about 4 hours sleep. I just wish there was something I could do to help him