JUNE 07.........PSSSSSSSST over here :0)

[LackaDAISYcal]

came to talk and the thread was full.

[foxythesnowfox]

That's scary JBM.

When LO got sick I was really scared that she'd have one. Its a perfectly natural reaction - the body basically shuts down to cope (DPs sister is a nurse and talked me through it just incase). Seems a bit of a high temp to be a side-effect IMVHO. If you don't mind me saying and sticking my oar in - in a well intentioned way - will you take her to the GP tomorrow? LO turned out to be a urine infection which went to her kidneys at which point her temp rocketed. We are still waiting to find out if any kidney damage has been done. If it has I'll be really upset that I hadn't taken her sooner - especially as I was in two minds about it

[foxythesnowfox]

Hey Fury! Been meaning to FB you, sorry. But it doesn't work well for me and takes an age and then crashes. But have been thinking of you.

[justbeme]

Thanks Foxy - I'll keep an eye on her overnight and see what i think.

[Sputnik]

That sounds very scary JBM, no idea if that was a febrile convulsion, maybe start a thread on it?

Congratulations Natty

[HellHathNoFury]

no worries foxy

My email (if it's easier) is my first name (dot) my surname @inbox.com

I am off to bed now

Sorry I can't help JBM... if she seems ok now I'd maybe check on her in the night and see how she is tomorrow.

[NattyThomasAndEllen]

JBM - does sound scary

thomas did that to me the other day when he got off a roundabout, went all stiff and eyes rolling around.. i think he was just super dizzy! but it did scare the life out of me.

[LackaDAISYcal]

Morning all

jbm, sorry to hear about L. I hope she is OK and that you have had her at the docs.

Natty, big big congratualtions . fingers and toes and eyes crossed for you. Come and say hello on knicker checker's anonymous; we've all been there and know how sorrying these early weeks can be, and how difficult it can be for OHs to understand how scared and worried we are

bumper, I need that book! You sound like you have summed me up to a T. Thing is, I know I have that creative streak in me from the things I've done in the past, but regaining it seems like such an upward struggle as I don;t have the time (or the inclination ) to give it the commitment it deserves. I also have the habit of throwing myself into something with gusto and then running out of steam really quickly (witnessed in the unfinished decorating, failure to get this book thing going well, nappy business still being a pipe dream). I don't think the depression helps, but equally I know that doing stuff and sticking with it will help the depression enormously.

Had a hideous morning yesterday as well and finally DH snapped because I had been nagging at him since I got up and yelled at me (and I mean really yelled; he scared the living daylights out of the kids). Anyhoo, stupid pregnant girlie response and I started crying and just couldn't stop. Cue DS playing up because 1) his dad never shouts and 2) me being so upset really confused him. thing is, I know that my nagging at him is just my way of coping with my own inadequacies

Anyway we ended up going to Brimham Rocks and had a lovely picnic and just a nice, happy, family day, so all's well that ends well. The boys have gone fishing (at 7:30) this morning and DD and I are just puttering. We'll go and find the boys later and then I'm taking DS to the cinema this afternoon/evening as I promised him ages ago.

Hope everyone is having a nice Bank Holiday and that the weather is still holding out.

[Bumperlicious]

Oh daisy, poor you. Hope things with you and DH are ok now. Can you talk to DS about grown-up arguing and getting upset? Spending some time with him sounds like a good idea.

I'm the same as you, I get very excited about things, put my all in then get bored very quickly, but I'm not sure if it is even being bored? Lack of confidence? I dunno.

JBM, hope LO is ok. Can you take her to see a doctor? Sounds very scary.

Damn, as usual I have left my thyroxine prescription till the last minute. And now the doctors won't take repeat prescription requests over the phone, only online, but I keep losing the paper with all the account details on it. And it's a fricking nightmare to get an appointment I'll never learn!

[Bumperlicious]

Daisy, here's more from that book:

'What happens when you stiffle creativity?

...They jump to conclusions about themselves and their abilities and their obligations that they think will help them avoid conflict. They make certain choices that they think will prevent others from being disappointed, shocked or angry....

[Something about lock their dream, an ember, in a steel box, hoping to suffocate it] But the ember won't go out. Instead it heats up the steel box and...the feeling turns to pain. So they reach for an anaethetic [drugs, booze, TV mass culture, destructive behaviours]...
...We speed through live wnting to get on to the next thing, unable to take pleasure in the moment...tickin goff experiences as if hey were chores [this is so me]. We seem distracted and spaced out, unable to hear what our family members say [yup] always preoccupied with some other space and time...society portrays artists as dreamers. But those who suppress their creativity are the ones living in a dream...Creativity doesn't mean just making things up out of thin air. It means seeing and feeling the world so vividly that you can put together connections and patterns that help to explain reality. It means you see the beauty in the world rather than trying to hide from it.'

(Danny Gregory - The Creative Licence)

Story. Of. My. Life.

[Sputnik]

Sounds interesting Bumper. Sp, what's the solution [hopeful]

[Sputnik]

So

[foxythesnowfox]

That's interesting Bumper. Had to read it a few times, but I think its saying don't stifle it, but don't force it?

That's my interpretation anyway.

Is there anything wrong in acknowledging there's more to give, but accepting that perhaps nows not the time? Don't beat yourself up if creativity doesn't flow. It can't be forced. There are many, many ways to be creative. Everyday I'm creative with the truth

I'd love to take up my art again, but I can't. I know that if I do pick up a pencil and pad I'll be bitterly disappointed with my efforts, and also I won't have the time to develop them all over again. So I'm going to leave it, draw and paint with the kids. Perhaps I'll do some doodling one day. But now's not the time.

The pressure to achieve comes from within. Let it go and free yourself.

[HellHathNoFury]

Foxy it's really interesting that you say that, I used to be the schools star art pupil, I used to be dead good, but I am so afraid of starting again for the reasons you mentioned.
It's why I turned to photography - it's similar in some ways, but the gratification is more instant and I beat myself up less when it doesn't go to plan.... because you can just take another.

[annobal]

Happy bank holiday everyone.

Sounds really interesting Bumper. I like to think of it as just putting creativity on hold for the moment until I have a little more time. Is that delusional??

All's well here. Had the first taste of spring today but back to winter tomorrow. DS1 is going for his hearing aids on Weds (or bat pods as we like to call them). It is pretty amazing the amount of support from the 'official channels' ie kindy and school are.

I had some really sad news yesterday - my sis and her husband are separating . She has 3 ds' as well. She is a really lovely person and really deserves to be happy.

[Bumperlicious]

I'm the same foxy and fury.

Sputnik, not sure yet. The book focuses on drawing but I think it can applied to any creative pursuit. The first few exercises make you draw with looking at the paper, just at what you are drawing, he says sometimes the problem isn't that we can draw (for draw I guess you can substitute write etc.) is because we don't see things properly. Haven't got very far through it yet. He is very into illustrative journaling too.

[Bumperlicious]

Hi annobal, DD crying so go to go but just wanted to say hi, and sorry about your sister Is she back over here? Glad DS is getting sorted with his hearing. Is he nervous?

[annobal]

Thanks for your message Fury

[foxythesnowfox]

oh your poor sis Annobal

Glad to hear you have good support there for DS.

And it was lovely to see your face on your FB profile Made me smile to see you.

[Sputnik]

Annobal, was just thinking of you this morning, and wondering if you'd abandoned us for good, glad you haven't.
Sorry to hear about your sister, that must be awful. So how are you settling in?

[annobal]

Hey Bumper, hey Foxy

How are you and your lovely children Foxy? How was the olympics for you? Do you want the recipe book for the bread maker? LOL re the photo - it was taken just after I had DS3 and am looking a bit of a bloater...

Dsis is here and is coping amazingly - it has only been a couple of days. They made the decision on Friday night and told the kids yesterday. It is just so sad

Fury, can you email me - I've lost your address (bloody mac hard drive died AGAIN!!) and wanted to give you some info on Adelaide.

[annobal]

Hey Sputnik! How are you? Did you get your apartment in Rome?

It has been really lovely being back but definitely not all easy. Think I have a tendency to look at things with rose coloured glasses and being back here has defintely taken the glasses off. We've given ourselves 18mths and figure we'll make a decision after that. Besides, I really miss internet shopping - it is really crap here. No m&s, gap, john lewis...lucky I stocked up before we left otherwise the kids would be naked (or actually having a reason for not wearing any clothes )

[Sputnik]

Our apartment hunting is on hold again, as we're betting on prices coming down soon. I'm fine with staying here but the uncertainty is a pain.

I think there's pros and cons wherever you live tbh, apparently you have missed the crappest British summer since, er, last year

[DKMA]

Evening ladies!
Have I missed much?
Hope you are all okay!

[FrazzledFairyFay]

Hello everyone. Have had a great bank hol here - Dh and I went to a spa for the day . Am now 'playing' on our new Wii Fit. We started it last night and I'm totally hooked so far.

Hope everyone is ok

[LackaDAISYcal]

aaaaarrrrrgggggghhhhhh SHIT....literally

Watching telly eariler and DH was lying on the floor; DD puttering around at the side of the sofa). DH sits up saying Em have you had a poo? He went to pick her up and there was shit everywhere....all over her feet and one of her toys and trampled into the carpet. He had a quick look in her nappy from the back, no poo in there that he could see. So, he took off upstairs grumbling about "your effing sodding cat has had a shit on the floor" I looked; cats generally don't do orangey coloured poo with carroty bit in! When DH went to take DDs nappy off, it was undone at the front, so all we could think of is that she had undone the velcro herself and when she pooed it went down the leg of her trousers and landed on the floor whereupon she trampled in it. there was a huge skidmark in her trousers, shit all down her leg and only a tiny bit of poo in the nappy.

Looks like we might need to put a vest on her to foil her nappy undoing prowess as she has taken a nappy off before....or offer the potty for a bit after teatime.

anyhoo, hope we've all eaten this evening