APRIL 2008 - The One Where We Step Away From The Psycho Pill and Try Not To Need Pregnancy Tests!!!

[VictorianSqualor]

Our Babies

07 March: Ashton, a fourth child for gemprincess, 5lb 13oz @ 34+6
09 March: Ted, a second DS for Daftmoo, 7lb 14oz @ 36+0
21 March: George William, a first baby for KnitterintheNW, 7lb 2.5oz @ 37+3
25 March: Olivia, a second baby for TheMaskedPoster, 7lb 2oz @ 38+4
28 March: Pablo, a third baby and first DS for vacaloca, 7lb 14oz @ 39+4
28 March: Matteo Alexander, a first baby for Gangle @ 38+0 (?)
30 March: A baby girl, a second child for PortAndLemon, 8lb 15oz @ 39+5
02 April: Jak, a baby boy for rainbowdays, 9lb @ 39+1
02 April: A baby boy, a second child for bunyanvillas, 6lb 14oz @ 37+5
02April: Struan, a baby boy for Donnabels, 6lbs 15oz
02 April: A baby boy for mummyofaprincess @39 weeks
03 April: A baby girl for PippiCalzelunghe @38+2weeks
03 April: Aeryn Daisy, a baby girl for Denny185, 9lb 8oz @ 39+3
03 April: Benjamin, a baby boy for Micegg, 8lb 3oz @ 39+4
03 April: Roelof Grové, a first DS for SalLikesCoffee, 7lb 5oz @ 38+5
03 April: A baby boy for siikibam, 6lb 8.5oz @39+1wks
04 April: Matilda, a baby girl for AprilsFoolsBaby 7lb @
05 April: Ellis, a baby girl for MadameOvary
06 April: Henry Peter, a baby boy for Sheds, 7lb 130z @ 40+4
07 April: Sebastian George, a fourth DS for Peachy, 8lb 4oz @ 41+1
07 April: Jack, a first baby for ThePFJ, 7lb 5.5oz @ 41+1
07 April: Lexie Bea, a fourth baby for babywhiting, 8lb 1oz @ 39+4
08 April: Alasdair, a second DS for bunnyrabbit, 8lb 5.5oz @ 40+3
08 April: James Samuel, a third baby for honeybee10, 6lb 7oz @ 37+2
09 April: Zara Mia Martin, a first baby for V1KK1M, 7lb 10oz @ 41+0
09 April: Jasmine, a baby gilr for Niceychops
11 April: Kyran for rdk, 7lb 13oz @ 38+3weeks
11 April: Sebastian James, a second baby for Fleecy, 10lb 2oz @ 40+4
11 April: A baby girl, a first baby for CeylonSapphire, 7lb 12oz @ 41+1
11th April: Florence, a baby girl for LouMoose
12 April: Maya Alice, a first baby for egyptianprincess, 8lb 15.5oz @ 40+3
12 April: Sophia Viviana, a second DD for AussieDivaonaBreak, 6lb 12oz @ 39+3
15 April: Alexander Oliver, a third baby for VictorianSqualor, 10lb 3oz @ 41+0
16 April: Ailish, a first baby for Mollyfloss, 6lb 11oz @ 40+3
16 April: A baby girl, a second baby for elfsmummy, 7lb 13oz @ 41+1
16 April: Zoe, a baby girl, a first baby for ToastAddict, 6lb 10oz @ 39+3
16 April: Jasmin, a baby girl, a first baby for Eggandketchup, 9lb 3oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy for paranoidmumy, 8lb 9oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy, a second son for lorisparkle, 7lb 12.5oz @ 41+6
17 April: Benedict, first baby for LadyBee 9 lb 3oz @ 41 +2
18 April: Millie, a baby girl for scorpio1 8lb 9oz @ 41+?
18 April: Cameron, a second baby for munchkinmum @ 39+5
19 April: Oliver Michael, first baby for bashboid, 7 lb 4 oz at 41 +3
20 April: Samuel, a first baby for Velbels. 8lb15oz at 41+1weeks.
20 April: Angharad Mai, 8lb 4oz, 40+6, first for 7monthsplus
20 April: Emilia, 7lb15oz, a first baby for SuzeM, 40+6
20 April: A baby girl for SushiMama
21 April: Eve, a second baby for OMaLittle, 8lb 4oz @ 39+3
21 April: A second DD for Monmoo
22 April: Sam, a second son for Soph73 @ 40+0
22 April: Molly, a first baby for EllieG, 8lb 8oz? @ 40+5
22 April: Daisy, second baby for AttilaTheHan @ 40 +3
22 April: Zoe Olivia, second daughter for Piccallilli2 7lb 1oz @42+1
22 April: A second DD for blinks.
23 April: Jessica Elizabeth, first baby for BabyBratt @ 40+1 7lb 12oz.
24 April: A baby girl, a second daughter for christmaspixie, 9lb 2oz @ 40+6/41+5
24 April: Miya Jade, baby girl for ShelleySare at 39+4
25 April: Amelie, a first baby for Dondons, 9lb, 41+3 (i think!)
25 April: Aisha, a second baby for Jaq39 7lb 14oz @ 41+4
26 April: Hope Olivia, a second dd for northeastmummy, 7lb 11oz at 41 .
26 April: Gabriel, a third child for Bainmarie @ 41+5
26 April: Eli Michael, a baby boy for LittleMissTurquoise, 7lb 15.5oz @ 40+5
27 April: a baby girl for Ayomi, 6lb 1oz @ 41+0
28 April: Jacob Andrew, a 2nd DS for Kaybeeand2boys, 8lb 4oz @ 41+5
29 April: Thomas Henry, a 2nd DS for TLSM, 7lb 8oz 40+3
30 April: Harry Samuel, a fourth ds for Chipmonkey, 9lb 5oz @ 39+2
30 April: Ellie, a baby girl for Annamama
30 April: A second DD for luckymummy74
01 May: Sophie May, a baby grl for Annieroo, 6lb 5oz @ 41+4
01 May: Euan George, a baby boy for Jenniejennie, 8lb @ 40+4
02 May: Robyn Olivia, a baby girl for soph28, 8lb 1oz @ 42+1
05 May: Nora Martina, a first baby for Eva07, 7lb 8oz @ 41+2
05 May: A baby boy for Beeper, 8lb 10oz @ 41+0
05 May: Gabriella Summer, a first baby for MommyHasAHeadache, 8lb 4oz @ 40+6
06 May: Wilf, 8lb 60z for bigbadmom @ 41+6
07 May: James Andrew, a second ds for Moominsmummy, 8lb 13oz @ 41+5
08 May: Ellie Isabella, a first baby for Carey87, 7 lb 8oz @ 42+1
08 May: Robin David, a 2nd baby for Woollymummy, 8lb 11 oz @ 41+3
09 May: 4 kittens for scorpio's cat!
10 May: Astrid Mary, a second dd for sagitta, 8lb 8oz @ 42+0

oh crap, have just received news of a big earthquake back in NZ. Hope everyone's ok.

oh goodness!

When that plane crash happened, i rang the helpline hting as my sis is an air hostess but she wasnt on that flight, thank god.

Dont worry if phone is busy.

mmm, phones down where DP's mum lives, which is 10km away from where quake was - 5.9 on richter scale, but she's texted to say she's ok.
My family all elsewhere, thank goodness.

Right..off to get ingredients for chocolate ganache. Have never made it before, but seems simple enough, if completely calorific (chocolate and cream heated and mixed!)

I've got big aches again..even my fingers hurt. Back, knees, hips, shoulders, wrists and fingers. I feel like an old lady

Oh phew LadyBee, so glad to hear your family's ok! Same with your sis, Scorpio!

Ladybee, your banana cake sounds lovely!!! (Hmm, and the icing good enough to eat all on it's own...)

MommyHasaHeadache, if you're reading this - I meant to say the other day: I got all nervous reading your pregnancy test post, hahaha. Had to have a glass of wine after that suspense! How would you have felt if positive? I found the time when I tested so strange - first I thought "oh shit!" when I convinced myself I was, and then actually disappointed when not. But then, I am a nutcase.

am now feeling confused, DP has just said lemon icing more usual for a banana cake, but surely chocolate and banana would be better combination?
Bugger it, am not going back to shop for more ingredients, chocolate it is going to be. Possibly with coconut sprinkled on top - feel like I should be wearing a flowery pinny with all this domesticity.

Yes, MommyHAH I also did a bit of a doubletake reading your post, was convinced we were going to have another two under 18 monther.
My periods still haven't come back yet at all, although this weekend my acheyness did extend a bit to feeling a bit crampy, nothing has eventuated.
Am not sure if I'm brave enough to click on the mooncup link. Do I really want to know?

my period is AWOL, too. i had one 10 weeks ago, nothing since. Think the waking in the night held it off; expecting one soon now she has been sleeping through last 2 weeks. (or to be pg, lol)

Choc & banana, deffo.

my dh is working today.

My local cafe does chocolate ganache on banana cake and it's yummy. Can't see lemon working so well, really. If your DH doesn't like choc/banana then you can eat it all...

I think choc would work really well, or something cream cheese-y. I'm drooling as we speak.

[not eating cake emoticon]

[diet a miserable failure emoticon]

i would love some cake actually. have none in the house though.

Afternoon all... how different our August bank holiday is now we have a baba! Different in a good way though! Not been up to much this weekend - just did a massive tidy up and clear out of our lounge - it really needed doing - we have done nothing bar the odd dust and vacum since Gigi was born Things are looking good again - now to keep it that way! I wish I was more intrested in things like that (cleaning, etc) but I'm not, it is just SOOOO boring to me!

The cake sounds good LadyBee, and I agree, def the chocolate ganache. I've been baking loads since before Gigi was born (I think it was my form of nesting - much more fun than cleaning) and my fav cake was a really yummy and moist chocolate cake, with chocolate ganache and flake sprinkles - delish! However as my butt is growing wider by the day, the time has come to put my cake books and tins away

Sal - it was a bittersweet feeling finding out that I wasn't. In one instance we were both so excited that I might be again, but then in the other, the realities of having no. 2 so close to no.1 are a bit too much for us. However, if I had been, we would have just had to deal with it. BTW - you are so lucky that you have someone close by that you can rely on to babysit. The only person that has babysat Gigi so far is my mom, but she doesn't live close by and is a carer, so is always somewhere around the UK helping some old person. So it has to be carefully planned to fit in with her schedule. I guess I shouldn't really moan - it is better than nothing hey. I would like to try sitters.co.uk, but the whole anxiety leaving baby with a stranger thing kicks in - would I really be able to enjoy myself?

VS - thanks for posting about your book and your summarised version - I think that will be very useful in the years to come. How is it working for you?

PAL - hope your DS is okay now?

I'm kind of convinced by the Mooncup - I have also read 101 things about it, I suppose it is change to what I am used to and have used for the last too many years to bear thinking about. Honestly - is it comfortable? Can you feel it in you?

I am also considering jumping on mooncup bandwagon, thought about it a few months ago but never got the courage up to order one. I decided to wait until I got my period back but it is still strangely absent - and Amelie has been sleeping through the night for about 13 weeks. I am totally certain that I am not pregnant though.

VS - your book sounds very good - I have copied your extracts out!

MommyHasaHeadache - yep, Mooncup is surprisingly comfortable. First use I was sure I felt it (must have been my imagination), but then I used a tampon because the idea of it all (trying not to go into too much detail here...) freaked me out a bit, and I could actually feel that a lot more. So I switched back, and now forget about it most of the time (when not thinking, that is). I quite like the idea of not having to faff around on airplanes and stuff trying to stuff a tampon in my pocket etc when not wanting to carry my whole handbag to the ladies etc. I bought mine at boots - actually went to buy Lilletts, and this was next to it, so I thought what the hell, I've read about it so often, might as well try. And at just under £20 it's not that long before it's paid for itself anyway.

On the babysitters - why don't you try them one day when you're actually close by (e.g. going to a local restaurant or something, somewhere where you can be home in 10 minutes). With sitters I think they try and offer you the same person if you liked them before, and that way you can build up a good relationship with someone? Hmm, this does sound as if I want to get "rid" of Roelof on a regular basis, and that's not the case, but it is nice to know that there is someone if you need to or want to do something that's too late for the babies. I haven't used them, but when I first started looking I thought they looked pretty impressive, and all the reviews (there was quite a lot on MN when I looked) were all good. Since lots of the sitters are quilified nannies etc, I guess you can state that as a requirement from the start?
Btw, first time I went out when G (cleaning lady) looked after Roelof, I only relaxed for about 5 minutes. But boy, were they great! And then, when I saw him perfectly fine, sleeping, her in perfect charge, it got easier, so the next time I relaxed a little more, and now I'm fine.

Our SA flights are booked!!! Whooo hoooo!!!!! I'm flying out two weeks before dh, and then he'll join us from mid Nov. I can't believe I'll be in SA for a whole month!!! Would be nice to see the family and have some winter sun though. I do worry a little about this plan of mine - my first ever flight on my own with R will be 11 hours, followed by a 1 hour connecting flight, followed by my dad picking us up and another 4 hours drive home... I'm crazy, aren't I? [very nervous face] But it costs so much that I decided to do a proper visit now, not sure when we'll go again.

Gosh, so many messages. Not sure have energy to read all but have seen gist and feel very inadequate at all the good parenting and cake-making

I have read How to talk but am a miserable failure at putting it into practice in real life, where I nag like a fish wife and tell DSD to go upstairs when she's being naughty 'just cos you're being annoying' [bad bad mummy]

Though I have been trying to be a bit better recently and have more patience etc, which is probably making her behaviour better. A bit. Today she had a Big Sulk over the fact that she couldn't sit in between DH and me on the sofa as there wasn't room, but she wanted to sit in the middle. And I didn't blow up, but explained that I did not want to be all squashed, it had no reflection on her importance to us and suggested that perhaps sulking was not the most mature response, and then Ignored. And ignoring worked cos she got bored and did something else. Hurray for me. Am learning to be better mummy see?

Molly has rolled a bit. I put her on her tummy and because she doesn't like it she rolls back. Not sure that counts though.

Just read your posts about bad dreams sal - are you OK? Can you get a night off feeds and get your DH to do them? Sleep in spare room for a night to catch up?

Mol slept through again last night! But only cos she went to be late as she wouldn't go to sleep early, so am not sure that counts either.

Anyway, sorry to ramble on.

Where is knitter these days? Has anyone seen her?

I think if you can feel your Mooncup you generally haven't got it positioned high enough.

Btw, I don't know anyone else that's that grossed out about periods as I am - I know it's normal and natural and all that, but still. So for me to be impressed enough to shout from the rooftops says something about it. However, it is not the prettiest thing in the world. Then again, not sure if sparkly stars and flashing lights would have been appropriate

i am yet to be converted to a mooncup.

LOL Ellie at the annoying thing. Good on your explanation though

soz am bfing

Ellie, thanks for asking, all's back to normal now, I don't know what it was. When I just got home from hospital with Roelof I cried in my sleep for about a week too, but then I actually woke up sobbing. At least this was only in my dreams. I think I get a little bit "depressed in denial" sometimes. You might be right about tiredness too though, because I struggled sleeping a bit, but the sleeping during the day (which I can't normally do) helped loads.
Molly sleeping though - hurray! Whatever the reason, a sleep through is a sleep through! and

Sal - when im exhausted i dream vert strange things. i slept walked when mimi was having a growth spurt

That's a relief, Scorpio! (Not that you're having strange dreams of course, but that at least it's not only me, and I am relatively sure that you're sane - not 100% sure about myself lately!)

The Keeper used to come in a little spangly bag covered in stars (no flashing lights though)...

That counts as rolling, Ellie!

I think Knitter has been on holiday -- at least, she's just uploaded some "First family holiday" photos on Facebook.

DP talks swedish in his sleep when v. tired or stressed. He did it the other night, woke me up chatting away in some weird language and when I told him the next day the only word I could remember apparently meant 'Polish' as in to polish not from Poland. maybe he was telling em to clean up?

lol PAL. Oh, how the standards have fallen!

PAL, has there been any activity on ThePFJ's facebook?
I do worry something rotten about little Jack.