APRIL 2008 - We venture over to the 'other side'

[VictorianSqualor]

Our babies.

07 March: Ashton, a fourth child for gemprincess, 5lb 13oz @ 34+6
09 March: Ted, a second DS for Daftmoo, 7lb 14oz @ 36+0
21 March: George William, a first baby for KnitterintheNW, 7lb 2.5oz @ 37+3
25 March: Olivia, a second baby for TheMaskedPoster, 7lb 2oz @ 38+4
28 March: Pablo, a third baby and first DS for vacaloca, 7lb 14oz @ 39+4
28 March: Matteo Alexander, a first baby for Gangle @ 38+0 (?)
30 March: A baby girl, a second child for PortAndLemon, 8lb 15oz @ 39+5
02 April: Jak, a baby boy for rainbowdays, 9lb @ 39+1
02 April: A baby boy, a second child for bunyanvillas, 6lb 14oz @ 37+5
02April: Struan, a baby boy for Donnabels, 6lbs 15oz
02 April: A baby boy for mummyofaprincess @39 weeks
03 April: A baby girl for PippiCalzelunghe @38+2weeks
03 April: Aeryn Daisy, a baby girl for Denny185, 9lb 8oz @ 39+3
03 April: Benjamin, a baby boy for Micegg, 8lb 3oz @ 39+4
03 April: Roelof Grové, a first DS for Sal22, 7lb 5oz @ 38+5
03 April: A baby boy for siikibam, 6lb 8.5oz @39+1wks
04 April: Matilda, a baby girl for AprilsFoolsBaby 7lb @
06 April: Henry Peter, a baby boy for Sheds, 7lb 130z @ 40+4
07 April: Sebastian George, a fourth DS for Peachy, 8lb 4oz @ 41+1
07 April: Jack, a first baby for ThePFJ, 7lb 5.5oz @ 41+1
07 April: Lexie Bea, a fourth baby for babywhiting, 8lb 1oz @ 39+4
08 April: Alasdair, a second DS for bunnyrabbit, 8lb 5.5oz @ 40+3
08 April: James Samuel, a third baby for honeybee10, 6lb 7oz @ 37+2
09 April: Zara Mia Martin, a first baby for V1KK1M, 7lb 10oz @ 41+0
11 April: Kyran for rdk, 7lb 13oz @ 38+3weeks
11 April: Sebastian James, a second baby for Fleecy, 10lb 2oz @ 40+4
11 April: A baby girl, a first baby for CeylonSapphire, 7lb 12oz @ 41+1
12 April: Maya Alice, a first baby for egyptianprincess, 8lb 15.5oz @ 40+3
12 April: Sophia Viviana, a second DD for AussieDivaonaBreak, 6lb 12oz @ 39+3
15 April: Alexander Oliver, a third baby for VictorianSqualor, 10lb 3oz @ 41+0
16 April: Ailish, a first baby for Mollyfloss, 6lb 11oz @ 40+3
16 April: A baby girl, a second baby for elfsmummy, 7lb 13oz @ 41+1
16 April: Zoe, a baby girl, a first baby for ToastAddict, 6lb 10oz @ 39+3
17 April: A baby boy for paranoidmumy, 8lb 9oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy, a second son for lorisparkle, 7lb 12.5oz @ 41+6
18 April: Millie, a baby girl for scorpio1 8lb 9oz @ 41+?
18 April: Cameron, a second baby for munchkinmum @ 39+5
19 April: Oliver Michael, first baby for bashboid, 7 lb 4 oz at 41 +3
20 April: Samuel, a first baby for Velbels. 8lb15oz at 41+1weeks.
20 April: Angharad Mai, 8lb 4oz, 40+6, first for 7monthsplus
20 April: Emilia, 7lb15oz, a first baby for SuzeM, 40+6
21 April: Eve, a second baby for Scampmum, 8lb 4oz @ 39+3
22 April: Sam, a second son for Soph73 @ 40+0
22 April: Molly, a first baby for EllieG, 8lb 8oz? @ 40+5
22 April: Daisy, second baby for AttilaTheHan @ 40 +3
22 April: Zoe Olivia, second daughter for Piccallilli2 7lb 1oz @42+1
23 April: Jessica Elizabeth, first baby for BabyBratt @ 40+1 7lb 12oz.
24 April: A baby girl, a second daughter for christmaspixie, 9lb 2oz @ 40+6/41+5
24 April: Miya Jade, baby girl for ShelleySare at 39+4
25 April: Amelie, a first baby for Dondons, 9lb, 41+3 (i think!)
25 April: Aisha, a second baby for Jaq39 7lb 14oz @ 41+4
26 April: Hope Olivia, a second dd for northeastmummy, 7lb 11oz at 41 .
26 April: Gabriel, a third child for Bainmarie @ 41+5
26 April: Eli Michael, a baby boy for LittleMissTurquoise, 7lb 15.5oz @ 40+5
27 April: a baby girl for Ayomi, 6lb 1oz @ 41+0
28 April: Jacob Andrew, a 2nd DS for Kaybeeand2boys, 8lb 4oz @ 41+5
29 April: Thomas Henry, a 2nd DS for TLSM, 7lb 8oz 40+3
30 April: Harry Samuel, a fourth ds for Chipmonkey, 9lb 5oz @ 39+2
01 May: Sophie May, a baby grl for Annieroo, 6lb 5oz @ 41+4
01 May: Euan George, a baby boy for Jenniejennie, 8lb @ 40+4
02 May: Robyn Olivia, a baby girl for soph28, 8lb 1oz @ 42+1
05 May: Nora Martina, a first baby for Eva07, 7lb 8oz @ 41+2
05 May: A baby boy for Beeper, 8lb 10oz @ 41+0
05 May: Gabriella Summer, a first baby for Mum2babyroo, 8lb 4oz @ 40+6
06 May: Wilf, 8lb 60z for bigbadmom @ 41+6
07 May: James Andrew, a second ds for Moominsmummy, 8lb 13oz @ 41+5
08 May: Ellie Isabella, a first baby for Carey87, 7 lb 8oz @ 42+1
08 May: Robin David, a 2nd baby for Woollymummy, 8lb 11 oz @ 41+3
09 May: 4 kittens for scorpio's cat!
10 May: Astrid Mary, a second dd for sagitta, 8lb 8oz @ 42+0

Men just dont get it VS they think they are the bees knees coz kids generally misbahave less when they r around and have different ways of dealing with it when it does occur. We have to pre-organise how diff behaviours r delt with otherwise it generally ends with us getting at each other once kids out of ear shot. DS got taken to bed aswell yesterday for 5 min time out - done by daddy for a change, for throwing a choc ice on the floor twice and then having an absolute paddy after it was put in the bin. Thankfully hes been much better today and only a couple of minor strops.

Scamp - I did have a good chortle at the whole poo incident. Im going to brave baby clinic tomorrow, I was going to wait till 6 week check (tomorrow) but when i stopped at the gps they are running behind - 12 weeks instead

Oh also wonderwoman 'ere forgot today was baby clinic, so didnt prepare last night, got there, no red book, no nappies to change ds.

whoops, so just added to the day then.

I had no red book either! Through the whole wait I was mildly panicking (not enough to ask again!) that he hadn't heard me ask if it was OK that I didn't have the book and I was going to have waited two hours only to be sent home.

VS - what a wait! I think we should note on the thread what age the other babies get to Alex's birth weight - DD2 now weight DD1 was at 7-8 weeks!

DD1 took her nappy off during nap today (eek) - she is not potty trained even in waking hours. Came down from getting her without noticing, sat her on my knee for a story, friend who had just arrived asked if she was still in nappies and as if by magic the warmth spread over my lap. All my clothes (inc knickers!) soaked through, DD's skirt soaked through (the front - should have rung alarm bells...), no more clothes that fit so had to put bizarre pyjama bottoms/short dress combo on (I don't know the friend that well!). DD2 getting really testy in evenings so bedtime always nightmare, was screaming even in Baby Bjorn so just trying to get DD1 into pjs when some sixth sense tells me to check the mattress (or logic - I woke her up from nap so she can't have taken nappy off at END of it...) - of course it's covered in wee. Cue go downstairs to get travel cot and erect it (a man's job, I'm sure we'll all agree), all with DD2 yelling bloody murder (not hungry, tried that, tired I think as she's fast asleep in the sling now). DD1 was great and didn't mind having her story through the mesh of the travel cot and has gone down fine! I really have to count my blessings about how great she's being.

Wash on now with mattress cover in (sponge bit just airing, assume that's fine?), meaning my dark dress weed on yesterday by DD2 will have to wait until tomorrow!

DH still not home and no word from him all day. Poor thing, he has had to go to work whilst I've lazed around at home all day .

Supposed to be popping over to friend/neighbours' tonight - not sure they'll appreciate my outfit!

ps next time anyone tries that dairy line on me I'm going to wonder out loud with a straight face how much milk farmers have to give their cows.

VS - for you. mine play up for me quite a bit at the moment, but dont put a toe out of line for dh, ever. dh is working 7-6 at the moment so i am doing it all pretty much myself - as you say its a novelty when the dc see them! you know you are doing well

i was going to weigh mimi today but didnt feel up to going out. Will weigh her next week; not overly concerned, can see she has grown (had to buy new sleepsuits today)and has plenty of wee and poo so thats ok.

scamp - ds1 still wets himself and he is nearly 6, though i suspect it is to do with dyspraxia in his case. it is very irritating though.

Jamie had mmr & other booster thing injection on monday, today his arm has swollen up around his injection site . got hm checked out and all ok though, tis nearly gone. poor boy.

Scamp youve not had a great couple of days with wees and poos, surely you destined to a couple of 'clean and dry' days

Just spent 2 hours on phone to friend in the states whos 32/40 and fretting over everything that could possibly happen. They test so much over there it think they quite possibly make it worse. Shes off to a labour and delivery antenatal class in a few weeks, it lasts all day, 8 hours FFS what are they going to talk about for that length of time. Anyhow after that im more exhausted than i would be if id got up every 2 hours to feed so im hitting the sack, night all.

So far I have stuck to determination not to take DD to baby clinic or get her weighed apart from 8 week check. I do find myself curious as to how much she weighs, but she's clearly fine so this way I avoid obsession...

Hi everyone! have had very little time to post as ds3 crashed my computer and dh spends all evening on his, and then of course there's ds4 who takes up a lot of time, oddly enough!

Got the fright of my life yesterday. Ds4 was upstairs in his Moses basket, was starting to whinge a little when my boss rang. I was chatting to her when I realised ds3 was nowhere to be seen and ds4 had started to howl! I charged upstairs and there was ds3 ( aged 3) at the TOP OF THE STAIRS with ds4 in his arms!!!!! I grabbed ds4 off him. Poor ds3 was saying "The baby was cwying, Mammy" poor love was only trying to help but it has taught me a lesson!

Ahhh has your heart come back out your mouth yet

Under similar circumstances a 3yo DH picked his sister up out of her cot and carried her to their mother by one arm and one leg^...

chipmonkey, DS1 picked DS2 up the first day DP went back to work, so I'd been home from hospital what 2days? and the phoen rang downstairs, I took forever to get downstairs to answer it (As you do after a CS) and as I put it down heard DD shout 'muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum', '6run^ up the stairs (Whichc after a CS is slower than a normal walk) to find her holding DS2, apparently DS1 had picked him up and ran round the ebdroom with him when DD said put him down.

PAL, I personally wasn't going to get Alex weighed, he was weighed two weeks ago when the HV saw him but I wanted my heel prick test results and she had said to collect them so whilst I was there as it was empty I weighed him, I certainly won't be queueing up if theyre busy to get him weighed, he can wait til his 8weeks check as well now.

denny My sympathies with you after that phonecall.....two hours??? Don't think I've ever had to suffer that long!!!!

Hope DS behaving himself today.

S xxx

P.S. Not feeling so guilty about posting on this thread as strictly speaking I am allowed to as DD2 was born on 30th April .

Hope all you other April ladies are OK today.

From reading all your posts it sounds as if life's going to get a lot harder...So far, DD1 is being great - although ill , and a few too many arguments over who is going to hold the baby- and DH is too. And my mum is here doing everything. And dd2 just sleeps all the time.
I've had terrible stomach pains - I wish someone had told me that you shouldn't pick up your toddler soon after giving birth!
Had heel prick test today, and dd2 weighed. Only 2oz down on birth weight, which seems good.

just lol'd about the thought of PAL's DH carrying poor baby by arm and leg... (obviously not funny at the time of course!) a good thing babies are tougher than they look.

i've been having a horrible time yesterday, ended up shoving poor lo in dh's arms when he got home last night, running to bathroom, locking the door and crying my eyes out on the floor... such a drama queen, i feel very embarrassed about it today. luckily dh was brilliant, calmed baby down eventually (after about 4 hours of crying ALL THE TIME the afternoon). he still cried on and off all evening (baby, not dh, though he might have felt like it after that welcome!), but eventually slept ok, and this morning i fed him in bed while sleeping next to me for a couple of hours. i'm still not sure if it's some kind of colic or if he was over tired or what. he's back to normal this morning, feeds well, nappies ok and now sleeping on my shoulder. i dread this afternoon, keep your fingers crossed for me please, i panic if he seems to be in agony for hours and there's nothing i can (or know what to) do. i've got the cry-sis (i think that's what it's called, next to the phone now) number ready - it's really for help with colic babies, and i'm not sure that's it, because ok today, but this time i'll call, if only to cry in someone's ears! phew, i actually feel better now, sorry for having to listen to all this!

Scampmum, IIRC cows natural food in nature is cheese, think they prefer it in the form of babybel, though how they get that wax off with those feet I will never know.....

Ds1 has had a few try to grab baby incidents as well- and he cant get it into his head he cant which has frankly left me with a messy house and a sleeping abby but no ability to leave room to do anything on several occasions. Doubly so, as ds1 did similar with ds3.... took him into his ned at 3 m, a bunk bed... got sick of him, pushed him out, onto lego- ds3 permanently scarred from fall, and there's a tiny bit of us alwys wondered if it conributed to his SN

Got a good letter today- DS3's DLA has been dropped by 312 a week but that's Ok, more than amde up for the fact that I have not got to reapply until he grows up (019 to be rpecise!0 Thank goodness! HTE those forms.

Still got to complete ds1's, and spend a fiver on photocopying documents.

£312 a week??
How the hell can you sound so calm on knowing your household income is going down by that much?Wow, you really are making wine aren't you?

pmsl- £12 a week

though it will be a bit more with the wtc element, i guess.

Am pleased that its until he is 16 but just had a report from SALT saying that although he will talk (yay), hemight not ever talk well and understand much (sob). And although we managed to get him drained (ie he doesnt need nappies nowbut we have to take him to loo hourly), he may never be able to ask for the toilet.

Bet BAs's first words arew 'Ds3! potty!' LOL, its all we seem to say

following my post on "James sleeps all the time" he now does not sleep at night - cannot get him to settle at all - until we tried him on his side and he sleeps much better. have tried propping him up alot on his back but still doesn't work - he just won't sleep on his back. am i being v naughty letting him sleep on his side?

i'd like to know too, moominsmummy. roelof sometimes seems in agony when on his back (despite winding and everything), but fine on his side after a while. and (but we watch him ALL the time while doing this) - sometimes the only way i can get him to sleep is by putting him on his tummy, and then only turning him over to his back once he's actually asleep. i reconed as the paediatrician had him sleeping on his tummy for 3 hours when born and struggling with breathing, it must be ok as long as we watch him all the time for breathing. hope that's ok, but it seems to help with any discomfort.

i didn't even ask health visitor, i'm afraid of them (for no good reason, they've only been lovely)

Sal -- your bad day is, almost word-for-word and including thrusting baby at DH as he walks in the door, the same as a fictional case study they had us discuss (in a "be prepared for this sort of day" way) in NCT classes when I was pregnant with DS. So don't feel that you're in anyway atypical!

Maybe that "Cravendale -- so good the cows want it back" campaign is because the bovine HVs have told the cows that they need to drink milk to make milk and made them all insecure?

Not sure about the sleeping tbh, I know the big issue is sleeping on their tummy, not sure about side, I think they are more likely to roll over onto their tummy when on their side though so that could be the issue.

Where are they when asleep? Are they swaddled?

Thanks, PAL, that makes me feel better. Felt like the worst mom in the world. He's been doing quite well this afternoon - no crying without known reason etc, but has been spitting up milk every now and again (and every time he sleeps). He doesn't seem to be in pain, and I'm wiping his mouth to avoid it burning him (probably won't anyway, but just in case) and putting something dry under his head every time it happens.

With regards to the sleeping - yes, I always swaddle him (or have tried his growbag a couple of times - worked on some occasions, but lately he's been waking himself up with his arms, so will wait till he's settled before trying again). In the day he's in his cot in his room or in moses basket at my feet, and at night moses basket next to our bed. As it's just me during the day, it's quiet. Have tried singing him to sleep, but in all fairness, can understand how that might upset the poor fellow! When on his sides (and when on back) I always use those shaped things that stop him from rolling over, but when on his side I'm always in the room with him anyway, just in case.