APRIL 2008 - We venture over to the 'other side'

[VictorianSqualor]

Our babies.

07 March: Ashton, a fourth child for gemprincess, 5lb 13oz @ 34+6
09 March: Ted, a second DS for Daftmoo, 7lb 14oz @ 36+0
21 March: George William, a first baby for KnitterintheNW, 7lb 2.5oz @ 37+3
25 March: Olivia, a second baby for TheMaskedPoster, 7lb 2oz @ 38+4
28 March: Pablo, a third baby and first DS for vacaloca, 7lb 14oz @ 39+4
28 March: Matteo Alexander, a first baby for Gangle @ 38+0 (?)
30 March: A baby girl, a second child for PortAndLemon, 8lb 15oz @ 39+5
02 April: Jak, a baby boy for rainbowdays, 9lb @ 39+1
02 April: A baby boy, a second child for bunyanvillas, 6lb 14oz @ 37+5
02April: Struan, a baby boy for Donnabels, 6lbs 15oz
02 April: A baby boy for mummyofaprincess @39 weeks
03 April: A baby girl for PippiCalzelunghe @38+2weeks
03 April: Aeryn Daisy, a baby girl for Denny185, 9lb 8oz @ 39+3
03 April: Benjamin, a baby boy for Micegg, 8lb 3oz @ 39+4
03 April: Roelof Grové, a first DS for Sal22, 7lb 5oz @ 38+5
03 April: A baby boy for siikibam, 6lb 8.5oz @39+1wks
04 April: Matilda, a baby girl for AprilsFoolsBaby 7lb @
06 April: Henry Peter, a baby boy for Sheds, 7lb 130z @ 40+4
07 April: Sebastian George, a fourth DS for Peachy, 8lb 4oz @ 41+1
07 April: Jack, a first baby for ThePFJ, 7lb 5.5oz @ 41+1
07 April: Lexie Bea, a fourth baby for babywhiting, 8lb 1oz @ 39+4
08 April: Alasdair, a second DS for bunnyrabbit, 8lb 5.5oz @ 40+3
08 April: James Samuel, a third baby for honeybee10, 6lb 7oz @ 37+2
09 April: Zara Mia Martin, a first baby for V1KK1M, 7lb 10oz @ 41+0
11 April: Kyran for rdk, 7lb 13oz @ 38+3weeks
11 April: Sebastian James, a second baby for Fleecy, 10lb 2oz @ 40+4
11 April: A baby girl, a first baby for CeylonSapphire, 7lb 12oz @ 41+1
12 April: Maya Alice, a first baby for egyptianprincess, 8lb 15.5oz @ 40+3
12 April: Sophia Viviana, a second DD for AussieDivaonaBreak, 6lb 12oz @ 39+3
15 April: Alexander Oliver, a third baby for VictorianSqualor, 10lb 3oz @ 41+0
16 April: Ailish, a first baby for Mollyfloss, 6lb 11oz @ 40+3
16 April: A baby girl, a second baby for elfsmummy, 7lb 13oz @ 41+1
16 April: Zoe, a baby girl, a first baby for ToastAddict, 6lb 10oz @ 39+3
17 April: A baby boy for paranoidmumy, 8lb 9oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy, a second son for lorisparkle, 7lb 12.5oz @ 41+6
18 April: Millie, a baby girl for scorpio1 8lb 9oz @ 41+?
18 April: Cameron, a second baby for munchkinmum @ 39+5
19 April: Oliver Michael, first baby for bashboid, 7 lb 4 oz at 41 +3
20 April: Samuel, a first baby for Velbels. 8lb15oz at 41+1weeks.
20 April: Angharad Mai, 8lb 4oz, 40+6, first for 7monthsplus
20 April: Emilia, 7lb15oz, a first baby for SuzeM, 40+6
21 April: Eve, a second baby for Scampmum, 8lb 4oz @ 39+3
22 April: Sam, a second son for Soph73 @ 40+0
22 April: Molly, a first baby for EllieG, 8lb 8oz? @ 40+5
22 April: Daisy, second baby for AttilaTheHan @ 40 +3
22 April: Zoe Olivia, second daughter for Piccallilli2 7lb 1oz @42+1
23 April: Jessica Elizabeth, first baby for BabyBratt @ 40+1 7lb 12oz.
24 April: A baby girl, a second daughter for christmaspixie, 9lb 2oz @ 40+6/41+5
24 April: Miya Jade, baby girl for ShelleySare at 39+4
25 April: Amelie, a first baby for Dondons, 9lb, 41+3 (i think!)
25 April: Aisha, a second baby for Jaq39 7lb 14oz @ 41+4
26 April: Hope Olivia, a second dd for northeastmummy, 7lb 11oz at 41 .
26 April: Gabriel, a third child for Bainmarie @ 41+5
26 April: Eli Michael, a baby boy for LittleMissTurquoise, 7lb 15.5oz @ 40+5
27 April: a baby girl for Ayomi, 6lb 1oz @ 41+0
28 April: Jacob Andrew, a 2nd DS for Kaybeeand2boys, 8lb 4oz @ 41+5
29 April: Thomas Henry, a 2nd DS for TLSM, 7lb 8oz 40+3
30 April: Harry Samuel, a fourth ds for Chipmonkey, 9lb 5oz @ 39+2
01 May: Sophie May, a baby grl for Annieroo, 6lb 5oz @ 41+4
01 May: Euan George, a baby boy for Jenniejennie, 8lb @ 40+4
02 May: Robyn Olivia, a baby girl for soph28, 8lb 1oz @ 42+1
05 May: Nora Martina, a first baby for Eva07, 7lb 8oz @ 41+2
05 May: A baby boy for Beeper, 8lb 10oz @ 41+0
05 May: Gabriella Summer, a first baby for Mum2babyroo, 8lb 4oz @ 40+6
06 May: Wilf, 8lb 60z for bigbadmom @ 41+6
07 May: James Andrew, a second ds for Moominsmummy, 8lb 13oz @ 41+5
08 May: Ellie Isabella, a first baby for Carey87, 7 lb 8oz @ 42+1
08 May: Robin David, a 2nd baby for Woollymummy, 8lb 11 oz @ 41+3
09 May: 4 kittens for scorpio's cat!
10 May: Astrid Mary, a second dd for sagitta, 8lb 8oz @ 42+0

Sal it must be the day for buying bouncer chairs! My gran sent us some money when Gigi was born and today we bought her a gorgeous fisher price one with the money she sent! She loves it and looks so cute in it!

Evening all.

Have had the most lovely day. DH has had DD1 all day and Elena and I have been shopping this morning , met my dad for lunch and came home to chill out this afternoon. Feel like my old self again - amazing how something so simple can chill you out - although going to bed at 8 pm last night must have also helped!

mum2BabyRoo Elena is 13lb so pretty hefty so I'm not worried about the bath seat - she certainly seems very comfortable in it. On ours there is a guide for the water depth but I have to say that I have it a good 2 inches deeper than that as she's in for quite a long time (probably 10 -15 mins) and I worry that she'll get cold if too much of her body is out of the water.

Scamp I can't believe your DH. Hope he's mafde it up to you today.

Am off to wrap father's day pressies. Enjoy the rest of the weekend

Thanks elfsmummy - Gigi is 10lb4oz so not too small - might try her on it tomorrow night. There is no guide on ours so should the water reach as far as their belly or is that too high?

I'd say belly, I guess it comes up to her tummy button roughly. She loves it, kicking away, arms thrashing!

Mum2babyroo, that's gorgeous, so girly! We got Roelof this one.

Denny, R's quite noisy at night as well, especially now that he's got a stuffy nose. I'm not sure whether it's really bad hayfever or a cold, but at least he seems to be fine otherwise. The paediatrician we saw the other day said that the reason he breathed so noisily was an underdeveloped something or other (can't remember the name, but the cartilage in your throat when you breathe), but that it didn't bother him (R) and that it would resolve itself within 18 months. So by the time he's sleeping alone in his own room he'll be quiet. Timing, hey.

scorpio - v jealous about bugaboo, keep looking at them and trying to think of reasons not to get one (apart from obvious cost one). Must be strong...

Also had lovely day, had friends around and made use of the stash of frozen EBM and drank lots of lovely wine through the afternoon & evening. Benedict also went to sleep at 8:30 - amazed! Only problem is I'm now really full..and don't know whether I'm ok alcohol-wise to feed him now or if he'll wake up, or whether I should express some off for my own comfort or what. Am in state of indecision...and some discomfort.

Think I'm just going to have to get rid of some it. Feels like there'll be plenty if he does wake.

also..remembered Scorpio's description of thrush nipples - brown on areola and pink nipples...so that's not normal? is there any way to know for sure whether you have it or not? my nipples are still quite tender, and definitely pink/red-ish whereas areola are brown (not dark though, I'm quite fair). I haven't noticed any white marks in Ben's mouth though. D'you think there would be any harm getting some cream from the pharmacy and using it to see whether that helped tenderness or would it be A Bad Thing to use it if you don't know for sure you've got thrush. Does that make sense?

Peachy, if you're around: I saw on another thread that you recommended the Closer Baby carrier. Would you mind helping me with something, please:
Firstly - is it easy to get used to using a wrap (I've only ever used a Kangoo Pouch - similar to the Baby Bjorn)?
Secondly - is it in essence only one long piece of fabric, or is there anything else to it? I'm tempted to look for one of those as the pouch style carriers are great, but hurts my back after a while. However, I then saw this and wondered if I could make it myself (easily being crucial here though ).

Ladybee, if you were drinking wine at a leisurely pace you should be fine to feed. The alcohol doesn't stay in the milk either, it reduces as the alcohol in your blood reduces. Might be no harm to express for comfort though.

Ladybee if you do express, keep it.

If you drink whilst BFing unless your baby is very poorly or premature then you would need to drink a hell of a lot for it to affect your baby.

Tiktok has posted about this loads but you'd have to be a bloody good drinker to be able to drink the amount it takes to affect baby, if you feed after drinking yes it does g into the milk but in such small amounts.

Also it comes out of milk the same rate as blood, so 1 unit and hour from the time you started drinking so if you're worried and want absolutely no alcohol to go through to baby that's how to work it out.

Had a nice day with DD yesterday, left DS1 at home with DP and went into the City shopping, spoilt her rotten, bought myself a few bits too and had an ice cream, life is so much easier without a 3year old hanging around!! I think he enjoyed having Daddy to himself without a baby around too.

Sal -- a wrap is prtty easy to get used to, but it takes a bit of practice to get the hang of the various ties and carries. And you generally need to retie/readjust whenever you put the baby in or out. One advantage with the Close Baby Carrier is that as it's not a proper wrap it's a bit quicker to put on and take off and doesn't need adjusting so much, but then it's not quite so versatile.

The thing to remember with wraps is that the stretchier the fabric the easier it is to use, and the more comfortable it'll be for a small baby -- but also the stretchier the fabric the less suitable it'll be for a heavier/older baby.

I expect you could make your own wrap pretty easily -- just bear that in mind about the fabric.

well I did end up expressing, 5 oz came out of one side, 2 from the other but I tipped it out as I hadn't sterilised my pump beforehand (v lazy). Didn't seem to matter though, Ben slept through until 3am so by that time we were very much ready to go again - and again at 5:30 am and again at 8:30.
Was v impressed with Benedict's sleep - wonder what (if anything) prompted the earlier bed. Maybe more stimulation/being outside in day? or maybe he got more milk earlier because we were feeding him with the bottle? Will be interested to see what happens today.

Sal, I have a hugabub sling which is just a long piece of cotton jersey fabric, and can get into fairly quickly now that I've had a bit of practice (also have wilkinet and brightspark coorie). The hugabub has a bit of shaping at the ends of the fabric and an extra non-stretchy square of fabric in the middle which I think gives a bit more support behind the baby's back. I think it would be pretty simple to make something similar though. Could bring to meetup if you wanted to take measurements/try out?

thank for the info about alcohol processing - good to know. Felt so nice to sit around not worrying about whether I should have just the one that I did sort of lose track of how much I'd had..felt it a bit this morning

Thanks for the info, PAL and Ladybee. I'll try and make up my mind, but if still in doubt by the time we meet up, I might ask you to show me your hugabub, Ladybee. Thanks for the offer.

Roelof has a terrible cold, so I'm off to cuddle him, poor thing. Except for the cough and nose, he doesn't seem to be in any pain and is feeding well. Will try and keep him upright today, it seems to help.

Just for future reference, Ladybee, so long as the pump is clean, it doesn't have to be sterile. In the USA, no-one sterilises breast pumps. And the "rules" about sterilising are really more relevant for formula, rather than EBM, which has antibacterial properties anyway.

i can only ever get 3oz at absolute most from expressing, what am i doing wrong?

If i express in the morning its ok and i can get 3oz easily but any other time of day and im forcing it tbh. i can never ever get a whole feed in one sitting iyswim.

Just make sure i express in the mornings then?

Mimi is sleeping really well still. Had a nice day out walking, its lovely here. Going out to the cinema tonight.

its a tommee tippee hand pump btw.

i discovered you can hire those medela double ones for £40 p/month, worth it? I need to leave Millie for nearly a whole day soon so need to stockpile, lol.

Hello all - sorry to come on here just to moan, but I really need to talk to some friendly people

I am in London as Rob had a heart attack on thurs. It was only a minor one but still scary, and since he needs an angeogram and they can't do them at home he has been taken to St George's Hospital. Me and Molly have come too. I am trying to be really brave and strong and not scared for him but I am so miserable and I am scared for him and for me and the girls. They have been lovely here - they put him in a private room so Molly can visit without worrying about infections too much, but I still am. I feel so guilty about bringing her but I couldn't think what else to do - there was no one to look after her at home and she is so very little I thought she was better with me. But am so worried she will pick something up, though am being really careful. Rob is OK, very down, and I am trying to be really positive. The proceedure is tomorrow, and hopefully they will find his arteries are clear, if not he might need a bypass which they will do there and then.

And this is obviously selfish and stupid, but we were supposed to be getting married on sat and all cancelled. I am just glad that ROb is ok but still, it would have been such a lovely day and is a bit shit really.

That's all. Am bit down in the dumps. Have not cried at all and now am snivelling in an internet cafe in Tooting. Bloody hell. Am going before someone notices.

Sorry to moan.

Oh and scorpio - I have had to stop breastfeeding as milk dried up after stupid midwives bad advice - you can have my medala pump if you don't need in next few days. I was going to come on here and offer it to someone is only a little one but still good. If you want it I will give you my email and you can email me your address and I will send it.

Oh silly me, just read that you have one and need a double. If anyone else wants it is up for grabs though is electric one. I could never get on with the hand ones

Ellie, I'm so sorry to hear you're having such a rough time. And it's understandable that you're disappointed about Saturday, anyone would be. I think having Mollie with you is the right thing - for all of you. I'll think of you and your family and hope that all is ok tomorrow. Big big hugs.

Thanks sal x

So sorry to hear your news Ellie - sending positive vibes your way. I hope your DP gets better soon and that he doesn't need a bypass. Totally understandable about being upset about your wedding - I am sure your DP is as well. Def having Molly with you is the best thing - I am sure she will be fine. for you]]

Ellie -- really sorry to hear that.

St George's is pretty close to me (it was one of my options for where to have DD) so if you have time when you can't be hanging around with Rob and want to snivel on a real live shoulder just let me know. If I can find your email address I'll email you my phone numbers.

Poor Ellie! Hioe he's better soon.

Scorpio, if you express at the same time each mornong you should gradually start to produce more milk at that time. I've always used Avent pumps and find them great but have never tried Tommee Tippee so can't compare. If you're looking for a double, look for an AmedaLactaline on ebay, They're hospital grade and better value than hiring.

Ellie

So sorry about Rob, that must have been really scary! And i was thinking today you must be a Mrs now keep brave Can i still try your pump please? Is an electric better than a hand one? I will pay you for it email stephaniematthews943 at btinternet dot com

Chipmonkey - i just never seen to have much time, she feeds at 8am then its boys to school, then my brekky etc, guess i could just fit it in after brekky or something? its just remembering i would like to have enough just to go out once a week or something.