APRIL 2008 - We venture over to the 'other side'

[VictorianSqualor]

Our babies.

07 March: Ashton, a fourth child for gemprincess, 5lb 13oz @ 34+6
09 March: Ted, a second DS for Daftmoo, 7lb 14oz @ 36+0
21 March: George William, a first baby for KnitterintheNW, 7lb 2.5oz @ 37+3
25 March: Olivia, a second baby for TheMaskedPoster, 7lb 2oz @ 38+4
28 March: Pablo, a third baby and first DS for vacaloca, 7lb 14oz @ 39+4
28 March: Matteo Alexander, a first baby for Gangle @ 38+0 (?)
30 March: A baby girl, a second child for PortAndLemon, 8lb 15oz @ 39+5
02 April: Jak, a baby boy for rainbowdays, 9lb @ 39+1
02 April: A baby boy, a second child for bunyanvillas, 6lb 14oz @ 37+5
02April: Struan, a baby boy for Donnabels, 6lbs 15oz
02 April: A baby boy for mummyofaprincess @39 weeks
03 April: A baby girl for PippiCalzelunghe @38+2weeks
03 April: Aeryn Daisy, a baby girl for Denny185, 9lb 8oz @ 39+3
03 April: Benjamin, a baby boy for Micegg, 8lb 3oz @ 39+4
03 April: Roelof Grové, a first DS for Sal22, 7lb 5oz @ 38+5
03 April: A baby boy for siikibam, 6lb 8.5oz @39+1wks
04 April: Matilda, a baby girl for AprilsFoolsBaby 7lb @
06 April: Henry Peter, a baby boy for Sheds, 7lb 130z @ 40+4
07 April: Sebastian George, a fourth DS for Peachy, 8lb 4oz @ 41+1
07 April: Jack, a first baby for ThePFJ, 7lb 5.5oz @ 41+1
07 April: Lexie Bea, a fourth baby for babywhiting, 8lb 1oz @ 39+4
08 April: Alasdair, a second DS for bunnyrabbit, 8lb 5.5oz @ 40+3
08 April: James Samuel, a third baby for honeybee10, 6lb 7oz @ 37+2
09 April: Zara Mia Martin, a first baby for V1KK1M, 7lb 10oz @ 41+0
11 April: Kyran for rdk, 7lb 13oz @ 38+3weeks
11 April: Sebastian James, a second baby for Fleecy, 10lb 2oz @ 40+4
11 April: A baby girl, a first baby for CeylonSapphire, 7lb 12oz @ 41+1
12 April: Maya Alice, a first baby for egyptianprincess, 8lb 15.5oz @ 40+3
12 April: Sophia Viviana, a second DD for AussieDivaonaBreak, 6lb 12oz @ 39+3
15 April: Alexander Oliver, a third baby for VictorianSqualor, 10lb 3oz @ 41+0
16 April: Ailish, a first baby for Mollyfloss, 6lb 11oz @ 40+3
16 April: A baby girl, a second baby for elfsmummy, 7lb 13oz @ 41+1
16 April: Zoe, a baby girl, a first baby for ToastAddict, 6lb 10oz @ 39+3
17 April: A baby boy for paranoidmumy, 8lb 9oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy, a second son for lorisparkle, 7lb 12.5oz @ 41+6
18 April: Millie, a baby girl for scorpio1 8lb 9oz @ 41+?
18 April: Cameron, a second baby for munchkinmum @ 39+5
19 April: Oliver Michael, first baby for bashboid, 7 lb 4 oz at 41 +3
20 April: Samuel, a first baby for Velbels. 8lb15oz at 41+1weeks.
20 April: Angharad Mai, 8lb 4oz, 40+6, first for 7monthsplus
20 April: Emilia, 7lb15oz, a first baby for SuzeM, 40+6
21 April: Eve, a second baby for Scampmum, 8lb 4oz @ 39+3
22 April: Sam, a second son for Soph73 @ 40+0
22 April: Molly, a first baby for EllieG, 8lb 8oz? @ 40+5
22 April: Daisy, second baby for AttilaTheHan @ 40 +3
22 April: Zoe Olivia, second daughter for Piccallilli2 7lb 1oz @42+1
23 April: Jessica Elizabeth, first baby for BabyBratt @ 40+1 7lb 12oz.
24 April: A baby girl, a second daughter for christmaspixie, 9lb 2oz @ 40+6/41+5
24 April: Miya Jade, baby girl for ShelleySare at 39+4
25 April: Amelie, a first baby for Dondons, 9lb, 41+3 (i think!)
25 April: Aisha, a second baby for Jaq39 7lb 14oz @ 41+4
26 April: Hope Olivia, a second dd for northeastmummy, 7lb 11oz at 41 .
26 April: Gabriel, a third child for Bainmarie @ 41+5
26 April: Eli Michael, a baby boy for LittleMissTurquoise, 7lb 15.5oz @ 40+5
27 April: a baby girl for Ayomi, 6lb 1oz @ 41+0
28 April: Jacob Andrew, a 2nd DS for Kaybeeand2boys, 8lb 4oz @ 41+5
29 April: Thomas Henry, a 2nd DS for TLSM, 7lb 8oz 40+3
30 April: Harry Samuel, a fourth ds for Chipmonkey, 9lb 5oz @ 39+2
01 May: Sophie May, a baby grl for Annieroo, 6lb 5oz @ 41+4
01 May: Euan George, a baby boy for Jenniejennie, 8lb @ 40+4
02 May: Robyn Olivia, a baby girl for soph28, 8lb 1oz @ 42+1
05 May: Nora Martina, a first baby for Eva07, 7lb 8oz @ 41+2
05 May: A baby boy for Beeper, 8lb 10oz @ 41+0
05 May: Gabriella Summer, a first baby for Mum2babyroo, 8lb 4oz @ 40+6
06 May: Wilf, 8lb 60z for bigbadmom @ 41+6
07 May: James Andrew, a second ds for Moominsmummy, 8lb 13oz @ 41+5
08 May: Ellie Isabella, a first baby for Carey87, 7 lb 8oz @ 42+1
08 May: Robin David, a 2nd baby for Woollymummy, 8lb 11 oz @ 41+3
09 May: 4 kittens for scorpio's cat!
10 May: Astrid Mary, a second dd for sagitta, 8lb 8oz @ 42+0

by the way, knitter must have ellie's email/ number as she made that blanket for her...

Never? I have since i was about 12, seriously. i wasn't so much when dh asked if we could have a baby (Jamie) but enough to get pg.

With Millie it took 18 months of trying to persuade DH. I literally thought my heart would break if i could not have another baby. It nearly split us up until i didnt mention it to dh for a month and then he said to me he would like another. i htought about leaving him many a time. it felt like i was missing someone all the time - a plate, a pair of shoes, a bed, a washing pile.

I think i may have to persuade him again for number 4, but 'let' him get a vasectomy afterwards. Otherwise i would do it forever.

I just can't imagine that. I always wanted to feel broody for the second one, as I got pg accidently first time. But it was an accident second time too, so I never got to enjoy the feeling of wanting a baby and being pg. Do you think four will be enough, or will you always want antoher?

i am hoping 4 will feel enough, and if it doesnt i think i will have to thank god i have what i have and put that part of my life behind me.

DH would have been happy with 1dc, pmsl!

will he agree to 4?

i think so

Sal, you're right about her needing to feed at night until her supply was properly established
As for weight gain, some babies are slower, as Scorpio said some lose a lot of weight (Lex went from 10lb 3oz to 8lb 15oz) and breastfed babies don't grow the same way as bottlefed babies so there are a lot of different possibilities as to why baby wasn't the weight they wanted.
How long ago was it? She can possibly relactate if she wants you know, it's not a one way street with BFing, hard work to reestablish it, but possible.
No sagitta you're not BU! I was quite shocked DP's brother didn't get anything for Lex tbh, but he came to the hospital and stuff.
Scorpio, I feel the same, my family isn't 'finished' yet iyswim.
I have an eight seater table and if we could afford it I'd fill it up! (5 of us so far, 3 more to go)

3 more no way! though there are 6 of us already, i could do two more.....

you two are crazy

and a saggy tummy forever, lol!

well, at least if you're planning to get pg again, there's no need to work too hard at losing the weight!

ooh but there is. if you get back to starting point then you can expect to get bsck there again, if you dont and are bigger from the start then you will be bigger forever!

shit.

what?

well, I didn't work too hard at getting back to my original weight after dd1 - so does that mean I am going to be 1 size 14 for ever and ever?

No, just may take harder work. i dont really know, i am one of those annoying people. dont get about it, it will happen & our baby's are not very old at all!!

And you can't diet while BFing .

Right, off to get some sleep and lunch.

you can do slimming world whilst BF-ing, my friend has both times. she went from a 20 to a 10!!! safely too.

VS - it must have been about a week or two ago - I only just found out about it. Do you think that is too long a "break" (and because of the pills, her body doesn't make ANY milk at the moment anymore). If not too long, how would you re-establish it - baby just sucking again every so often?? I'm so annoyed for her, because she lost her first two babies around 4 months into the pg, dd1 was healthy, and now with dd2 they just freaked her out a bit (I feel unnecessary). I mean for heaven's sake, would it have killed anyone to at least try mix feeding then if that would have made her feel better and baby still healthy? She could have topped up bf with formula if baby still hungry, couldn't she?

Lol at you 2 feeling broody again. I would def try for at least one more (secretly maybe two, but don't tell dh just yet), but think I might have a break inbetween

Rant alert!

Sagitta you are so not being unreasonable and nor am I think when I tell you how upset I am with my own brother who didn't even lift the phone to call us to congratulate us - he just sent a text message. I am still upset about it. He sent flowers the other day - 3 weeks after Gabriella was born, and I guess I should be grateful for those, but I am not, I would still have prefered a phonecall (he lives in Dubai so not expecting a visit). I called them both times when their two were born, sent pressies, cards and flowers (immediately - not 3 weeks later like an afterthought). And not only that, everytime we go to SA (or anywhere actually as we fly Emirates and they go via Dubai) we stop off in Dubai to visit them (otherwise we would never see them as they never make any effort to come to see us at home when they come to the UK), and in fact we are going to see them again in Feb next year on our way back from SA. But behaviour like this makes me wonder why we bother. Oh and another thing (may as well while I am getting it all off my chest hey! lol), they neve ever remember my DH's birthday!!! My brother made a big song and dance about remember his DW's birthday, and I do every year - a card, a call and a present all get sent - and nothing for my hubby! This year I am boycotting her birthday!!

Sorry rant over.

BTW Scorpio - I will be trying that tip later!

Sal - That is SA all over for you. The easy way out every time - I mean how pro c section are they there? Every friend I have there bar one has had a c section! And the friend who insisted on giving birth vaginally was treated like a minor celeb at the hospital as it is such a rare occurance! Shocking!!!

It shouldn't be a problem AFAIK, I'm not sure what effect the tablets would have had on her long term productin/prolactin levels.

If she wants to restart she is best to have as much skin-to-skin as possible and get baby to start latching again, I don't know that much about re-lactation, just that it is possible, maybe post a thread in breast and bottle feeding?
I know Tiktok has advised on it before.

Have a look here and here and on the kellymom site.
It may be hard for her to re-establish a full supply, but if she wants to bf rather than FF then I'd imagine mixed feeding would be better than nothing?

Brilliant, thanks VS. I'll start investigating now!

M2BR - soooo true!!! When I was adamant that I wanted a v birth, I was told all these horror stories (ok fair enough, not by drs, but that was the general concensus - never mind body being "made" for vb!) Oh, and then I decided I wanted a home birth - I might as well have said I wanted to give birth on the bus while eating NikNaks the way that went down!!! Then when I ended up having to have a cs anyway (but this time for an actual reason, so fair enough), you could just hear the collective sighs of relief. Bloody hell. Oh, one doctor did actually say the following in reaction to my home birth plan: "They will mop the blood off the walls". Morons. (Disclaimer - obviously not all of them, I think one of the first / best advocates for water birth was a South African doctor, but the ones that crossed my path was def so very very "medical")

No problem, I hope it helps her.

VS: DD weighs 4.43 kilos. When given expressed milk do you know how much she should have in a feed. I'm told with formula it's 30 mls per kilo and a bit more for bf babies. So would 140mls be about right for DD? She has a hard time taking that much