APRIL 2008 - We venture over to the 'other side'

[VictorianSqualor]

Our babies.

07 March: Ashton, a fourth child for gemprincess, 5lb 13oz @ 34+6
09 March: Ted, a second DS for Daftmoo, 7lb 14oz @ 36+0
21 March: George William, a first baby for KnitterintheNW, 7lb 2.5oz @ 37+3
25 March: Olivia, a second baby for TheMaskedPoster, 7lb 2oz @ 38+4
28 March: Pablo, a third baby and first DS for vacaloca, 7lb 14oz @ 39+4
28 March: Matteo Alexander, a first baby for Gangle @ 38+0 (?)
30 March: A baby girl, a second child for PortAndLemon, 8lb 15oz @ 39+5
02 April: Jak, a baby boy for rainbowdays, 9lb @ 39+1
02 April: A baby boy, a second child for bunyanvillas, 6lb 14oz @ 37+5
02April: Struan, a baby boy for Donnabels, 6lbs 15oz
02 April: A baby boy for mummyofaprincess @39 weeks
03 April: A baby girl for PippiCalzelunghe @38+2weeks
03 April: Aeryn Daisy, a baby girl for Denny185, 9lb 8oz @ 39+3
03 April: Benjamin, a baby boy for Micegg, 8lb 3oz @ 39+4
03 April: Roelof Grové, a first DS for Sal22, 7lb 5oz @ 38+5
03 April: A baby boy for siikibam, 6lb 8.5oz @39+1wks
04 April: Matilda, a baby girl for AprilsFoolsBaby 7lb @
06 April: Henry Peter, a baby boy for Sheds, 7lb 130z @ 40+4
07 April: Sebastian George, a fourth DS for Peachy, 8lb 4oz @ 41+1
07 April: Jack, a first baby for ThePFJ, 7lb 5.5oz @ 41+1
07 April: Lexie Bea, a fourth baby for babywhiting, 8lb 1oz @ 39+4
08 April: Alasdair, a second DS for bunnyrabbit, 8lb 5.5oz @ 40+3
08 April: James Samuel, a third baby for honeybee10, 6lb 7oz @ 37+2
09 April: Zara Mia Martin, a first baby for V1KK1M, 7lb 10oz @ 41+0
11 April: Kyran for rdk, 7lb 13oz @ 38+3weeks
11 April: Sebastian James, a second baby for Fleecy, 10lb 2oz @ 40+4
11 April: A baby girl, a first baby for CeylonSapphire, 7lb 12oz @ 41+1
12 April: Maya Alice, a first baby for egyptianprincess, 8lb 15.5oz @ 40+3
12 April: Sophia Viviana, a second DD for AussieDivaonaBreak, 6lb 12oz @ 39+3
15 April: Alexander Oliver, a third baby for VictorianSqualor, 10lb 3oz @ 41+0
16 April: Ailish, a first baby for Mollyfloss, 6lb 11oz @ 40+3
16 April: A baby girl, a second baby for elfsmummy, 7lb 13oz @ 41+1
16 April: Zoe, a baby girl, a first baby for ToastAddict, 6lb 10oz @ 39+3
17 April: A baby boy for paranoidmumy, 8lb 9oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy, a second son for lorisparkle, 7lb 12.5oz @ 41+6
18 April: Millie, a baby girl for scorpio1 8lb 9oz @ 41+?
18 April: Cameron, a second baby for munchkinmum @ 39+5
19 April: Oliver Michael, first baby for bashboid, 7 lb 4 oz at 41 +3
20 April: Samuel, a first baby for Velbels. 8lb15oz at 41+1weeks.
20 April: Angharad Mai, 8lb 4oz, 40+6, first for 7monthsplus
20 April: Emilia, 7lb15oz, a first baby for SuzeM, 40+6
21 April: Eve, a second baby for Scampmum, 8lb 4oz @ 39+3
22 April: Sam, a second son for Soph73 @ 40+0
22 April: Molly, a first baby for EllieG, 8lb 8oz? @ 40+5
22 April: Daisy, second baby for AttilaTheHan @ 40 +3
22 April: Zoe Olivia, second daughter for Piccallilli2 7lb 1oz @42+1
23 April: Jessica Elizabeth, first baby for BabyBratt @ 40+1 7lb 12oz.
24 April: A baby girl, a second daughter for christmaspixie, 9lb 2oz @ 40+6/41+5
24 April: Miya Jade, baby girl for ShelleySare at 39+4
25 April: Amelie, a first baby for Dondons, 9lb, 41+3 (i think!)
25 April: Aisha, a second baby for Jaq39 7lb 14oz @ 41+4
26 April: Hope Olivia, a second dd for northeastmummy, 7lb 11oz at 41 .
26 April: Gabriel, a third child for Bainmarie @ 41+5
26 April: Eli Michael, a baby boy for LittleMissTurquoise, 7lb 15.5oz @ 40+5
27 April: a baby girl for Ayomi, 6lb 1oz @ 41+0
28 April: Jacob Andrew, a 2nd DS for Kaybeeand2boys, 8lb 4oz @ 41+5
29 April: Thomas Henry, a 2nd DS for TLSM, 7lb 8oz 40+3
30 April: Harry Samuel, a fourth ds for Chipmonkey, 9lb 5oz @ 39+2
01 May: Sophie May, a baby grl for Annieroo, 6lb 5oz @ 41+4
01 May: Euan George, a baby boy for Jenniejennie, 8lb @ 40+4
02 May: Robyn Olivia, a baby girl for soph28, 8lb 1oz @ 42+1
05 May: Nora Martina, a first baby for Eva07, 7lb 8oz @ 41+2
05 May: A baby boy for Beeper, 8lb 10oz @ 41+0
05 May: Gabriella Summer, a first baby for Mum2babyroo, 8lb 4oz @ 40+6
06 May: Wilf, 8lb 60z for bigbadmom @ 41+6
07 May: James Andrew, a second ds for Moominsmummy, 8lb 13oz @ 41+5
08 May: Ellie Isabella, a first baby for Carey87, 7 lb 8oz @ 42+1
08 May: Robin David, a 2nd baby for Woollymummy, 8lb 11 oz @ 41+3
09 May: 4 kittens for scorpio's cat!
10 May: Astrid Mary, a second dd for sagitta, 8lb 8oz @ 42+0

Hopefully denny the fact that she is aware will stop it being likely, was there any birth trauma last time?was she young?bad financial state? abusive relationship? single?etc
Most of the time it is a reaction to everything around you as well as the baby iyswim.
With DS1 I was totally different, besotted by him, same this time round, it's the interaction with baby that will show the difference between PND/Bbay blues to someone close, try to advise them not to suffocate her though.

That rash that moomins mentioned earlier.. it is normal and its called 'milk rash'. Normally triggered by dribbling and sicking up milk.
I think it was moomins that mentioned it.?

Jack has to stay in hospital even longer to be kept under observation. Then they have decided to check his kidneys again twice, once a week. One of these tests involves putting a wire tube up Jack's willy and and and... ok I was fainting and feeling sympathy for him at this point and missed the rest of the proceedure...
And the second means putting a slight radioactive dye in his blood and watching to see were it goes etc.

Bugger.

ouch poor bugger good job babies dont feel pain like us (apparently)

the thing about my friend that surprised everyone is he was a much wanted baby, tried 6 years and 2 mc, financially sound, good supportive family/dh etc. luckily they sought treatment v quickly but she was still on ad's for 6 months. this time round shes going to have a 20 month old to contend with as well.

That can often trigger a problem in itself -- "this baby was so wanted that I ought to be enjoying every moment, and if I'm actually finding it really hard there must be something wrong with me, so clearly I am just a bad parent".

PFJ - so sorry jack has to has more tests - at least he won't remember all this (unlike you and your DP who will have worry lines etched on your face forever )

DS2s rash got worse so I went to see HV at baby weighing clinic (why? why? why?) well firstly DS2 has put on a whole lb in the last week so my enormous boobs seem to be doing their job. then showed her the baby's rash - HV very shocked and told me to get to GP asap - looks infected and is probably fungal (major problem for us as means DH won't be able to touch the baby as his immunesuppressed status makes him very susceptible to such infections). I then mention the night sweats - HV says I must talk to GP about this too as will probably need a blood test.

So i see the GP later this pm and he says rash is usual and although infected is not worth doing anything unless baby becomes unwell (temp, off food etc). he examined me and said night sweats are not common but it does happen and not to worry.

health visitor = drama queen

oh yes she does sound like a drama queen - but fantastic weight gain!! just boobs you say?!

DH has grovelled big stylee.

My armpit lump really hurts and has got bigger. i had a shower and rubbed it down and hard. Breasts are fine though

Think id get that one checked out by your gp then (that will be easy with 4 kids in tow) could be a cyst or ingrown hair or anything really, better to be safe. Hope DH grovelled sufficiently.

Well just saw Britain's Got Talent again tonight.. must say I am rooting for Signature all the way!

Just thought I'd say it to keep the conversation flowing. Am thinking about getting some sleep. Called DP at hospital and Jack's rash is slightly worse. It seems to be on the move alot with some areas clearing up a bit and others getting more and more covered o.O

pfj - it sounds really difficult, poor you and poor jack. Can we help at all, send you anything, whatever?

Armpit still tender but not as lumpy. Wonder if i puled it or something breasts are still fine. Weird.

I am going to kill dss (not literally btw ) he just DOES NOT listen. he goes on about fighting and killing all the frigging time, his mum lets him watch all sorts which mine don't. i told him this morning enough of it now. he waited till i ws out of the room and then started again, but he looked over his shoulder to check first the little shite.he lied yesterday as well. he goes tomorrow am. DH is pissed off with him and i just think well why do you have him here then FFS, but i know it aint that simple.

Last day of 4 kids for me i do want 4 of my own though. get my bugaboo 2 weeks today hopefully

ooh btw - saw that britain's got talent thing on gmtv this morning - PHWOOOARRRRRR those men!!!! the darky one though, dont do blondes. actually i have never even snogged a blond man. ever.

Scamp - hope today is looking better for you. I think getting someone to do at least oe night for you is a great idea. You missed a night or two of sleep when you were in labour, didn't you? I found that really made things worse last time - you never catch up. Can you get DH to do one night, and mum do to another? Anyway, let us know i there's anything we can do...

I keep sleeping through the night feeds - ie with LO sucking away, and then I wake up and its 2 hours later and she's still there, sucking away. Is that a problem? Should I try to be awake , do you think? So I know what she's had and she doesn't get used to sleeping on me? Or should I just be grateful I can sleep through it?

Anyway, DH has given me a load of jobs to do today, so must get on...

I'd go for "be grateful you can sleep through it"

me too

fair enough! I still feel like crap though...

god i am starving today, seriously.

and millie seems to feed for shorter times now but same intervals iyswim....normal?

I am soooo tired.

Went to Reading today(to see VacantlyPretty), bus to oxford, train to reading, got on the train with some help (two huge steep steps up) and noticed there was nowhere I could put the buggy
Left it by the toilet and buggered off to sit down

Got to Reading, went to the park where they have an outdoor free paddling pool, what does Bobby do? STRIPS OFF NAKED and jumps in.

Thought as he was already wet I may as well let him carry on, so let him wear his pants in there, and Ella took her skirt and leggings off, I told her not to get her top wet though, then I notice her SWIMMING
So, miles away from home, Luckily I had a vest top under my jumper, so I tied the straps up behind her neck and made it into a top for her, dried them with Alex's blanket and decided to come home.

Got to the train station, train is delayed, so decide to get a different one, ended up back in Oxford 20minutes late, no bus home for nearly an hour so I thought Fuck it.

We went to MankyD's and got DP to pick us up, now I just want to sleep!!!

@ mankyd's

sounds like a good day out lol @ ella swimming (sort of lol sort of on your behalf)

I didnt do much today, am bit knacked after the week and mimi decided to wake up at 340 and 510 last night...both times for feeds but 510 was top-up cos i think i re-settled her too early iyswim.

have sent dh to do the weekly shop and i have a bud here

My parents are in France today, looking at property

Bloody hell I thought my day was busy with parties and shopping but nothing compared to yours. BTW VS how come youve gone all purple?

Aeryn has only fed 4 times today (good long ones though) think I might pay for it and shell be up loads during the night. DH just finished 12hour shifts though so hes doing first feed tonight so i should be able to get more than 5 hours tonight.

Extra bonus DD1 out for whole day tomorrow with her friend to a theme park (friends bday treat, not reg occurance) so peace and quiet for the day

Zac goes home tomorrow. as mean as you all might think i am, im happy. back to peace.

Gone purple?

Thanks for offering to help Scorpio, but there's nothing I can really think of asking for other than you lot keeping your fingers crossed. I saw a story on the ITN news tonight about a baby who died and was later discovered to have ecoli which Jack is recovering from. The story went on to say that they are researching why some babies succome to bacterial infections like ecoli (and mrsa I assume) and others don't. Not sure how I feel about the news story but I am so so glad I got Jack back to hospital when I did.. DP was sure it was colic and was reluctant to get Jack to the doctor.

Also the solictor got back to us and said unless the hospital screwed up on their treatment of Jack's MRSA, even if they gave it to him originally there isnt much chance of a good court case as Jack made a full recovery with no long term health problems. They have told me to write a letter to the hospital demanding an ex-gratia payment in compensation and hint at possibly going to the press.

What do you girls think?

Its up to u what course of action u decide to follow the only thing i would say is infections like MRSA are carried by lots of us and lay dormant, they only become a problem in v young/old or immune system compromised. Its quite possible that the lady or visitors to the next bed brought it in. If you and all the health care professionals who came into contact have been tested and come back clear Im not sure that u will get anywhere with persuing legal action - sorry probably not the answer you want to hear.

VS your name comes up purple everuone else is black

Thats because you have clicked on VS's name before.

The only way Jack could have contracted his 'full blown MRSA' was via an open wound like his umbilicus which is where he tested positive (it was full blown because his blood and urine tested positive and also the swab of his bellybutton). The hospital consultants told me this. They said the only way he could have contracted it would be if someone carrying it stuck their finger into his belly button or inspected the cord as it was coming off. You have to be a bit disgusting to transfer it 'into' someone's body .. a bit like HIV. Yes 30% of us are transient carriers at some stage but we dont give it full blown to the people we come in contact with.

The only people to handle Jack's cord where me, my DP and the nurses/doctors/MW's at the hospital.

MRSA is known as the hospital super bug for a reason. It is most commonly contracted at hospitals via patients or health care workers not washing hands enough.

You know, I really think I've made up my mind now. Thanks for making me think about it Denny!

I wouldn't be demanding compensation, but I would put in an official complaint about how he presented at A&E with what you now know to be classic signs of MRSA but was sent home again. (also complain about their giving it too him in the first place, but you don't know/can't prove exactly who infected him and when, whereas it's a matter of record which muppets managed to misdiagnose him in A&E so at least you could get some extra training for them out of it.

If thats how he contracted it then fair enough, would agree with PAL though the issues of misdiagnosis in A&E need to be addressed and Id be after an official appology.