December 2006 drag yourselves over here!

[Indith]

Oooops no room to link to old thread!

Lol at AQ forgetting that she is pg Sure the madness will pass. And don't worry about my chocolate supply, I live round the corner from Tesco

Jabber I think you should pop ds in the post and I'll sned him on holiday with all my clibing friends, they do similarly dangerous stunts on a larger scale. He'd have a ball

We tried an Abel & Cole box last week (and some meat etc, but it was SOOOO expensive), it was ok - they give you a free box with first order so dp wanted to give it a go. I did point out that there's a local box scheme but he was seduced by their website I generally get all the basic stuff from tesco online and buy fruit & veg locally, there's nowhere to buy free range meat near me so I buy it from tesco (although we only eat chicken once a week and not much else meat-wise, he gets fish from the shop if he wants it). I do try to get to the local organic shops for milk, cheese, cleaning products etc. DP wants to do more (so do I really) but there's just so little time with both of us working to actually get to local shops! I am trying to NOT buy out of season, high air mile things (like passionfruit which I love!). It's got to be get a greenhouse & produce it ourselves, but we just don't have time at present. Excuses excuses

Indith, I buy chicken breasts because I can't really deal with a whole chicken, I hate going anywhere near raw meat really which is why we eat so little of it. More than happy to have a big fat steak at a restaurant though, I'm such a hypocrite.

Lennied, it's a nice feeling isn't it between the two of you before everyone else knows! WEll aside from us of course. Have 2 of the same sex at the same time of year VERY handy I must say and I'm about to do it again as I'm assuming twin2 will be smaller and thus fit into the clothes from ds1 & 2. If twin1 is a girl, I was thinking of dying the white stuff pink actually, but I suspect cairn's mum would bequeath all manner of girlie things on me as she's dying for a granddaugher (my mum has two already!).

We used Abel and Cole for a while AQ, before we had a local scheme in our area. It was expensive, and as time went on the quality dwindled - I think they had problems with their couriers in our area who took longer to deliver than they should have done. They do have a lurvely website though

If you shop in Tesco you can ask them for an organic box provided by Shropshire's in Norfolk - not as far away as Abel and Cole in London, but a similar company. They supply tesco, but only have boxes in store in certain stores, although you can request one/order online. Also have a nice website Shropshire's

We used Abel & Cole for a while too. I learnt how to cook a few new things when I got stuff I had never bought before. I found the fruit really let them down though. I often got mouldy oranges and bruised bananas. They always refunded without question but it didnt help when I couldnt use the food I had in the house.

I shop at Tesco or Sainsbury's online. I doint buy as much organic as I used to because we dont have as much £ now I'm not earning. But I try and get seasonal stuff and I menu plan and make sure that I buy what I know we will eat. As a result use nearly all the food we buy. A few years ago we always had stuff that had been unused before it was out of date. That's me doing my bit.

I must admit I'm not menu planning much so quite a bit is going unused, which is v.bad it's better than it used to be but I feel like a pretty crap housekeeper most of the time! Don't find it comes easy. Just thought last night that I had better pull my finger out with four kids to feed (budgeting, planning and producing it all!). I just wish I could feel better about the twins, I'm crying my heart out every night now. Going to try to get some counselling this week Frustrating that at the same time I've finally got some energy I'm too miserable to use it!

AQ - this is probably just delayed shock. Having twins must bring so many extra questions and concerns, especially when you have child/ren already. Hopefully the counselling will help you come to terms with it.

I have found menu planning really helps.

AQ, good for you, getting some counselling. It must be overwhelming, and I think you're being fantastic about it all (FWIW )

AQ I also think you are doing well and definately the right thing to get some counselling. I'm worrying about how I'm going to cope with 2 so I'd imagine what you are going through is perfectly normal. I know you said previous you weren't ready for it, but have you considered contacting twins groups or posting in the multiples topic on here? I'm sure many other Mums have gone through exactly the same thing and would be able to help alleviate your concerns.

As for cooking/cleaning etc... DH and I lived off ready meals until DD was about 4 weeks old. And it took me a good 6 months before we were back to homecooked meals most nights. The house remains a tip, although a more organised one thanks to FGS. Your kids won't care how much you've vacuumed and they won't suffer for eating beans on toast when you can't be bothered to cook (scrambled eggs are our favourite lazy meal). You don't have to be superwoman to be a good Mum. Look after yourself, that's more important.

Hi Baby powder!
Hi everybody! how are you all?
Isn't it a glorious weekend?!
Dd is having a nap and Ds is at my parents for the weekend as usual. Dp has gone off to see his 31yo baby now, so it's just me here...got loads to do, but really don't want to do any of it.
Been thinking about having my Mirena removed as I'm sooooo fed up of the almost constant bleeding, but I don't know what else to go for...any recommendations? I've also started to gain weight now and that's leaving me unhappy. Can't get pg again, he'd definitely leave me! and I know we don't even do it very often, but can't take anymore chances!

I feel like a different person (for the better) since coming off the pill. We're a bit stuck with contraception too.

AQ, I'm so sorry that you're feeling so miserable. I think counseling is a great idea. HAve you checked out any of the multiples threads? Talked to Marslady at all?

Still using condoms here. I've been thinking about trying the ring at some point but I never have a cycle when bfing so the condoms are actually overkill atm anyway - but I'm in the same boat as solo. Dh would freak at the idea of another baby, as would I.

I'm so sorry that you're still feeling so down and I hope the counselling works.

Solo - how long has it been fitted? I had one fitted mid-February and had light bleeding until a week ago. The nurse at my check up said that if the bleeding continued, they could scan me to see if it is sitting properly (IYKWIM). I am finding that a Playstation 3 is an extremely good method of contraception .

WRT menu planning, there's a programme on ITV tomorrow evening about how to food shop. I really need help and inspiration (as well as a chef and a washer-upper )

Oh AQ sorry to hear you are feeling down. Hope the counselling helps, even if it is just ranting at an impartial person.

I must say I don't get fruit in the veg box as it just isn't worth it most of the time. I found last year that the only time it was worth getting the fruit was late summer/autumn when we got loads of wonderful plums and very nice apples.

AQ- local organic shops? Bloody hell last time I checked it was all random nationality shops and chip shops round you! Shall have to explore when next around.

Don't think I'm the best person for contraception, pill and I do not get on, mirena fell out. I'm doomed to be a condoms girl for ever.

Ds can stand unaided! Not that he does it on purpose yet but sometimes forgets himself and lets go to clap or something.

Oh AQ. No advice, just a big ((hug)) and a cup of iced milo (is it nice iced? I thought it was too hot to do it properly ). The multiples threads do seem to be very 'close' iyswim, a bit like the AN/PN threads and I bet 99.9% of people on them went through exactly what you're feeling at the moment. Do you think you'd feel any better if you knew what to expect a bit more?

Hooray for DS, Indith .

DS2 has a new word, well, sentence really. Anyone like to have a guess? It's 'Oh bugger' . I'm so ashamed. My 16mo swears. I have a potty mouthed toddler. And it's my fault . He's at that phase where he copies everything you say, I dropped and smashed a jam jar on the kitchen floor, shouted 'oh bugger', cue a delighted little voice shouting 'oh bugger' repeatedly for about half an hour.

Although Dd did look at him when he threw a toy across the room shouting 'oh bugger' and said, "No Ds2, it's not oh bugger, it's oh bollocks."

My children are so delightful .

Might try a veg box and see what it's like then. I set my compost bin up today so at least I'll have somewhere to put it all if we don't eat it!

Hullo all, seems like I'm forever posting on here about what a miserable cow I am. You're all v.kind I am trying really hard to think things through and feel better, talking things through would really help though. I haven't posted on multiples as I still don't feel I'm having them not that I want to lose them or anything awful but just don't see me having two babies yet. Scan on Tues so maybe it will be more real then.

Indith, yes two organic shops (cnr Ella & Newland Ave & one on chants so just near me and it's got a veggie cafe too). Hull's moving up in the world, I guess! Congrats on ds, it's the beginning!

DS2 officially started walking today, bless him! So pleased with himself, but absolutely knackered after crossing a room! He got up at 6.30 this moring, had to put him down for a nap at 9 he was so tired. And then another 90 minutes in the afternoon. Maybe he'll stop porking up so much now, none of his shorts will do up round his middle!

at Oli's ds (snigger). Be pleased with his language skills if nothing else! DS2 coming up with a few a week but they're only used for an hour (e.g. daisy, again) so dp doesn't believe me!

ZeMNetter, It's been in since mid April last year! I had the spotting for around four months I guess, then I had very little bleeding for several months and then a period or two...THEN in November I started bleeding and have literally only had 5 weeks bleed free. Doc said it may be that I'll have a three week period, then nothing for a while(this was back when I saw her in December)I haven't been back since, as it seemed like no one really knows what they are talking about with it anyway.
I told Dp that I think I'm going to have to revise my contraception and he's ok with that, but I know that he'll want to be totally safe with that. He did say(after Dd was born)that he'd get a vasectomy done, but tbh, I didn't want him to do that...thought I could be the one to ensure the safety on that front, but now I don't know. I'm 44 so I don't think the pill is really an option and I really don't fancy the injection or implants...Am a little lost over this I'm afraid...sigh...

Do they have the ring in the UK?

Jabber - I dont know what that is. Maybe we call it something different?

Solo - Its so hard isnt it

Olihan - at your DS and DD. DD2 just learnt No yesterday. She says 'doh' like Homer and shakes her head. Have had yes for a while but I love it when new words come...

Flylady Babysteps day 24 - Swish and Swipe I love this one. Dont often do my bathroom intensively now iykwim.

PMSL at Oli's dcs

Yay for ds2 AQ! Must be very proud of himself indeed crossing rooms!

Ds took a whole 2 steps this morning! Let go of my hand just before the coffee table an wobbled the rest of the way there himself He couldn't even stand 2 days ago!

Lol Indith. The hard work starts now !

Too much to catch up on here but LOL at cheeky little monkeys. Your DCs sound like mine Oli When DS was about 2.5 and my mum was changing DD1's nappy, DS was watching and when she got some pooh on her had DS exlaimed "oh buggery bollocks". Oh the shame. This morning the cashier in Sainsbury's asked DS why he wasn't at school today. He replied "Because I'm not" Still as amusing they just learn to omit the swear words thankfully.

All been wiped out with a vom bug here. Yee ha. Dontcha just love it.

Congrats to any new ANers, sorry can't keep up and feel a bit blurry at moment.

Hugs to AQ. It'll be fine. Went to visit my friend with twins on Friday and she is just cruisin'. They are so adorable: 2 sets of beady eyes following you everywhere, 2 sets of wiggling arms and kicking feet. She's been quite strict with a routine (esp the evening bit) and that has really helped.

ROFL at the potty mouth babies
Of course that means my turn will be coming soon...

Here's the ring

It's really cute when they learn anything new but I'm kind of ticked off at dh right now. He decided he might as well teach ds2 to climb up and down the little ladder in the playhouse. He was doing just fine climbing the ramp and now I have to stand right there b/c I'm terrified he's going to fall plus he can't get from the ladder to the platform by himself anyway. I mean we only have one more week here, FFS!

Okay, rant over

lolol - they're all cheeky monkeys!

at all naughty mums who have been teaching them bad words.

Just saying hello and LOL at the naughty words! We are getting a bit more talking now, but not loads. DD understands so much now though - am really going to have to watch what we say

Oh and Congrats on the walking Indith - although as FGS said, you'll soon be looking back on the non-walking days and thinking how calm and tidy your house was then Although it is lovely to have them pottering around outdoors in this weather.

Yes, congrats Indith! Just in time, too. It's probably going to get tricky hauling around ds and bump