April 2007 - Ange got a new hair cut (creeeeeeeeeeep)

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too tired for big catch up, hopefully this makes up for missing Ange off the last 2

Lol Maveta - dp says were there!!

dh is scared the exchange went like this:

dh - how do you know she´s not a psychopath?
me - well she´s met other girls on here..so.. unless they´re ALL psychopaths..
dh - {nodding agreement, eyebrows wildly raised}

POTC - let´s try and work something out. We´ve not planned anything for his bday yet, May is probably best so you avoid clashing family gatherings (and oh believe me you want to do that). the pool won´t be open so early i don´t think but you could go to the beach (again by car or into palma and then about 30min bus ride.. bit of a hoof by our lazy standards but once you´re there i guess you´d make a day of it). um.. what else.. we´d move N into our room so you could have his, there´d be a (small) double bed and a travel cot and we´ve got a couple of single mattresses we can chuck on the floor.

HELL, Come on out all of you, let´s resurrect the commune by the sea

IF you do think of coming early when the pool (and therefore the main entertainment) is shut, do think about getting a car for a day or two at least so you can get out and about (I think we could sort that pretty cheaply though)

just asked DH what type of wine he wants with tea
"White, to go with fish"
What is he having I hear you ask...
tuna and cheese toastie
I think he has ideas above his station!

lol t your DH maveta

lol at dh Katy

go on ellie - you said you wanted to try and meet everyone!!!!!!!!

Lol at wine to go with fish Katy!!

Maveta, very funny that you should be talking about having visitors! I have been looking at holiday brochures and am seriously considering Majorca as I have been there before, twice to Palma Nova which was lovely. I wanted to ask you which resorts you would recommend for us. Dh is talking about Alucdia, yes for family holiday? It would be useful to have a little insider knowledge, and also if you know where to get a hire car cheaply then I am there!!!!!!!!! Would be grateful for your thoughts anyway. We would probably be coming in June.

For Oooggs - Veg Lasagne (eventually!)

1 tbsp olive oil
1 garlic clove, crushed
1 red onion, diced
1 large carrot, sliced
1 red pepper, sliced
1 courgette, sliced
200gr broccoli, broken into small florets
200gr mushrooms, sliced
400gr can chopped tomatoes
2 tbsp tomato puree
1 tsp Marmite
1/2 tsp mixed herbs

For the cheese sauce

25gr sunflower margarine
25gr plain flour
400mls semi skimmed milk
1 tsp English mustard
125gr mature cheddar, grated
8 sheets lasagne verdi

1. Heat oven to 200c/fan 180c/gas 6. Heat the oil in a frying pan and fry the garlic and onion for 2 mins until they start to soften. Add the rest of the veg and fry for 5 mins until tender.

2.Add the canned tomatoes, tomato puree, Marmite and mixed herbs and season to taste. Half fill the empty can with hot water and add to the pan. Bring the sauce to the boil, then simmer for 15 mins until the mixture has thickened.

1. For the cheese sauce, put the margarine, flour and milk in a saucepan. bring to the boil, whisking continuously, then lower the heat and whisk until the sauce thickens. Stir in the mustard and three quarters of the cheese. Season.

1. Fill a lasagne dish with half the veg mixture, then top with half the lasagne sheets. Repeat with a second layer of veg and lasagne. Top with cheese sauce and sprinkle with the remaining cheese. Bake for 45 mins until the cheese is golden and bubbling.

Not the way I would normally make a cheese sauce but it seemed to come out ok! Would never normally just chuck it all in together!
Dont know what your ds is like with his veg, but I cut these up quite small and my ds still wasnt keen. When I make it again I plan to virtually puree the sauce down so that he cant see all the veg sitting in it!!

cheers mammyjo - it will be on my menu plan next week. DS (infact all of them) are great with veg and will eat it in big chunks - except mushrooms .

I made cauli cheese with brocolli, bacon & pasta for tea, it was ok, but went down well with dh & ds1. Dts have got it tomorrow

ideas above his station indeed Katy

I don't know what to do! The cheapest time to come out in September would mean M missing the first week of school. On the one hand I'm thinking they won't do much in that first week, but on the other I'm thinking it's when they'll all be getting to know each other and making friends so perhaps the worst time possible to take him out?

Why did you have to suggest it, I'd never have thought of it at all otherwise!

I would be inclined not to take him out for that first week, because they do tend to make their friends quite quickly. I remember ds having his little clan of friends within that first week, and they are all still friendly now over a year later.

Oh my goodness, I don't know when I last posted, except that it was ages ago. I'm struggling a bit with life at the moment, finding juggling work with everything else a bit much. Coupled with the fact that dh is a grumpy bastard and I feel very little joy when I'm with him, it's all a bit rubbish. Actually work is OK now and feels like a respite from all the crap I think about when I'm at home. I actually think my boss is more astute then my husband though - he asked me today if I felt I might be starting to feel like I did after having Emily, i.e. is the PND creeping back...I do wonder as I seem to be constantly ill, tired, my sense of taste has gone haywire, headaches, shaking....

Oh crikey, sorry, I pop back and all I do is moan and make you all feel depressed .

Anyways, hope all is good with you all. Maveta, I feel like getting on a plane and joining you right now. Anything to get away from the drudgery that is my life.....

Right, sorry, will try to be more upbeat when I post again.... promise.

What about going out a bit later, maybe the beginning of October. I am sure the weather will still be significantly better than ours!!

Hi IDOC You have been mentioned a couple of times lately with people wondering if you were ok.
Do you feel as if things are going the same way as they did before? Do you have a good gp/hv/close friend you could chat to about things? I feel for you as I know what it is like to feel that crap, but dont apologise for coming here to offload. Thats what its here for!

Evening all.

Ooohh a great big party out in Majorca!! Fabulous! Alcudia is a great family place MJ

How are we all tonight?

Al ok here, although K puked this evening. Dh seems to think she choked on her bedtime bottle as it wasn't much, but I am now in a panic (I have a real phobia about sick )

Apart from that all grand.

IDOC, sorry cross posted with you there.

I am really sorry you are feeling so down. As MJ said, pease come on when you have the time and let off steam. I totally empathise with you re the juggling of work/childcare/housework. I am finding it utterly draining, although I have to say since the weather has been better coupled with taking a vitamin C chewy sweet, things seem a bit brighter.

As you missed the last meet up, should we try and arrange another one???

oh sol I wouldn't wish sick on anyone - especially having both of them at it for nearly 5 days [yuk] two of their baby friends have had hospital admissions this week (one today) with dehydration from d&v.

hi idoc

ellie - could you get the money together for May? I wouldn't take him out in September due to the friends issue. October maybe?

Hi MJ. I don't know really, with Emily it started immediately after I had her and it was like a big black cloud had descended over my life. It took months for me to start feeling like I could look forward to anything again. Now I just feel empty, tearful, sorry for myself. I think the main problem is feeling as if I have a complete lack of empathy from dh. Yes he supports me, does the school run when he can, helps bath the dcs etc., but he's just so off towards me. He can't be bothered to make conversation (when he is here), he is grumpy towards me as I know he wants sex and, quite frankly if he can't even be bothered to talk to me he can flipping well forget it.

I do have friends I can talk to. I think my problem sometimes is that when I see them they always talk about their own issues/problems (I'm told I'm a good agony aunt). I think I need to be a bit more selfish when I see my bf tomorrow, although I know I'll descend into tears (but it won't be the first time she's seen me like that).

Dh and I never seem to get any time to ourselves, dh works long and stupid hours (was at work all weekend for example), and I just feel like our relationship is non-existent IYKWIM.

Don't really know what to do, where to go...not sure about HVs, never leant on one before, not sure if I want to go there really.

Hi Oooggs, are you lo's all better now? I hope so!

IDOC, how is the househunting going, dare I ask???

IDOC, what days do you work?

hi girls!

lol at your dh spb

hope you have an uneventful evening SOL (re. K and possibly - ahem - ´returns´)

Mammyjo - yay! another mini meet up on the cards? Alcudia is very touristy and very english but great for a family holiday I would say. SIL bought a summer flat there and dh, N and I went at the end of summer and had a great few days, felt like we´d gone on holiday (it´s a 30min drive away)! LOL

Ellie it´ll be much the same if you come in May or October tbh, price wise, weather wise (and the pool will still be shut ) but I do agree you probably don´t want him to miss his first week. email me, we shall plan

oh IDOC - sorry I xposted there, took ages to write mine , I´m sorry to hear things are hard. Would you be able to talk to your gp? At least hope you can offload to your friend and that she will help you sort through some things weighing on you. Thinking of you.

Got to go pay attention to dh now, night everyone, idoc don´t be a stranger..x

Maybe having a good cry with your friend would be a good thing though? I know its hard to admit that you are feeling rubbish again, but I am sure you remember from before, it really does help to offload to others. At the time I had pnd I had a fab HV who helped me immensely. She isnt there anymore and I certainly wouldnt want to confide in the one I have now, so I think that is just a personal choice. You have to really get on with them and trust them to be able to talk about really personal issues.

With your dh, does he understand how you are feeling. I know that mine was hostile with me until I admitted how crap I felt and that I needed help. When he understood why I was angry (because I was a lot of the time) he almost ignored my stropping and just tried to be nice to me! He was brilliant once he knew what was going on. Dont know if yours would be like that, just wondered how much he realises you are struggling just now. Men can be dense creatures a lot of the time!

sol - seem better no sick for two days [hurrah] but clingy & grumpy

I had a bit of a hissy fit this evening as ds1 pushing the boundaries and dts screaming whenever I leave the room, so shouted at dh "I didn't ask for two babies". It is hard when they are both sick, both want cuddles, both want attention, ds1 keeps saying "mummy has only got one pair of hand" not sure where he has got that from .

Also ds1 would rather stay at nursery than come home so I am having to bribe him to come with me, it is sad and embarassing and I don't know what to do. Is home that bad?

Maveta, what about the other resorts? Is there anywhere that you would particularly recommend? If they are all touristy and similar then Alcudia sounds like a good bet!

SOL, hope the milk remains where it should be tonight. Didnt realise you had a thing about sick. Must be awful to have a phobia like that, especially with young children to look after. Am thinking you never did getting so drunk you puke then?!

Oooggs, ds does that to me too when he has been to my mums/his aunt and uncle's house/nanny's house. I get a performance and stropping because he doesnt want to come home.
I got really angry with him one day and asked him if he would like it if I said I didnt want to come home with him. He said he would be sad, and so I asked how he thought I felt when he did it. He has been a litte better since then! He is quite good for understanding consequences when they are explained to him.

Home is definitely not that bad, he is probably just a bit jealous that your attention obviously focuses on the twins a lot, and not so much on him. I feel bad sometimes that F gets much more from me than he does, but I think that it is inevitable until they get a bit older and less dependent on us.