Oct 07 - this little piggy stayed at home...

[Dalrymps]

Hey guys sorry for the sh*t title, if there's already been a new thread set up please direct me there???

at everybody tired in a morning - dh volunteered to take over this morning for a couple of hours while I went back to bed. Bliss .

Am going to have to train dh in all the tricks I've learnt - he's great when she's in meltdown as she settles much better at the sound of his voice - but there are lots of other things, like this morning she napped while I was asleep and woke up after 45 mins - what she wants is to be coaxed back to sleep but dh didn't realise so played with her and she was then tired and cranky by the time I got up. Anyway, I'm going down to Essex for a day's conference in 4 weeks - a prelude to me going back to work - so I'll be away for a day and a half - am dreading leaving her for such a long time .

Inzi - good news about the new milk - fingers crossed it works.

Stefka - I let Anya sleep as much as she wants during the day, but I always feed her when she's due otherwise she wakes up starving and really angry - so sometimes we have daytime dreamfeeds!

Afternoon all.

Well so much for giving Ben a different formula for the last bottle to help him go through again... I have had the worst two nights from him in weeks. Last night he had his last bottle at 8.45 because he decided he was tired after being awake all day and his last bottle before that was 4pm. He then woke at 12.30 and wouldn't go back to sleep, ended up giving him another bottle at 1am which I haven't done since he was about 4 weeks old, so that made yesterday's formula total 37 ounces He then went through till 8.45 this morning before his next bottle, but he was up at 7am wide awake. I made DH get up with him (with a hangover) as I got up with him at 6am yesterday. He does seem a lot more settled so far today than he did yesterday, so who knows, I'm hoping the past week has just been a growth spurt blip. I am also going to stick with his normal formula and have started the infacol again. Fingers crossed

Ah rats - he had been asleep for 2 hours and twenty minutes so I gave him a few kisses and he woke up. I wish I had left him to sleep now

I am so tired today it's unreal and DH away most of the day too

I also don't let Adam go longer that 4 hours between feeds during the day as I figure i fhe's going to have a long sleep I want that to be at night. Not had to wake him for a couple of weeks though so maybe he's getting the idea!

Congrats MrsFish on the weight loss! Good luck to the rest of you. I am back to my pre preg weight but not shape - Stefka I am with you on the marshmallow belly! And I was a stone heavier than I wanted to be before I got pregnant so it's not as if I'm a svelte yummy mummy or anything!!!! I am not doing too much about it other than eating healthily and walking everywhere... Diets don't really cut it for me - the minute I am not allowed something I want it all the time even if I wasn't b othered before! For me if I stipped the glass or 2 of wine a night I would drop half a stone like a shot but I like it too much - mustn't moan then!

Well done for surviving too EmMcK!

hi all

Shannon was awake before 7 this morning screaming, so i was up earlier than on a week day she doesn't seem wel, she feels really hot to me but her temp is ok, have given her some calpol, but she isn't smiley and cooing like usual, i'm wondering if its from her jabs last week or a cold, poor little thing.

alice-yes will prob be up for a meet in York, i'm not great at finding places though, so it'd have to be really easy to get there!

right gotta go, hugs to all xxxx

ooh all this weight loss talk I too need to get on with loosing weight I have a family wedding and apparently keeping a jacket on all day is not an option. Lily slept 8 hours last night! Ive decided to keep a diary for a few days of her routine to see if we have one. As I tend to feed on demand and let her sleep when she wants to;

hope you are all having a great weekend

Hi all

Well, we were brave and it paid off! We booked Oliver into the creche at the gym and booked a tennis court for DH and myself and just wheeled Henry to the side of the court for his morning nap and played tennis. He managed 30 mins totally asleep and then 10 mins with the dummy. It was great to move around, get some exercise and just have fun with Dh again. He's fab, I'm crap at tennis but it was good to do. We then picked Ollie up from creche and had to do the weekly shop. Dh then took Ollie swimming as the lessons start again tomorrow and we though we'd run through a few things he was doing last term.

Henry has just gone to bed and is now in the middle of a mjor meltdown, he's not a meltdown type of baby but he has had 2 today. I'm amazed how his face can turn from baby pink to furious red in a millisecond! Dh just putting Ollie to bed so hopefully he should sort him out. I just want to pick him up and take him downstairs but he's tired, been fed and is clean. He's also had his goodnight boob which really chills him out.

Anyasmaum- Have been thinking about what you asked re helping a depressed person. With Dh and I we have agreed that if I am stressed, anxious or not coping and he has noticed, he is allowed to ask me am -I getting stressed. This is our kind of code password for 'You're acting like you're really stressed' I am not allowed to bite his head off as he has noticed a change in my behaviour. It's a good trigger for me to stop and think and it invariably works. When I start not to cope I can't see the woods for the trees iyswim. I think if your husband is feeling low atm I would let him go with it. My Dh used to say that although he didn't understand how I was feeling he was here if I needed him and he supported me any way he could -making phonecalls, speaking to my friends etc. Is there anything you can do to help him in that way? Dh has also just said it depends very much on what his symptoms are as they may be different from mine. I do think the key is -talk, talk and talk some more.
It must be a stress on you though

Hi everyone. So sorry I havent ben on since I had Scarlett but it's been a bit rotten these last few months.
I had a very traumatic birth which involved a big haemorage (can't spell it) and manual placenta removal. As a result I was very anaemic when I came home.
Scarlett was unsettled from the outset, at her worst crying up to 12 hours a day-constant hard crying. It became almost unbearable. We tried her on Gaviscon and Ranitidine but to no effect. My wonderful GP then suggested Soya Milk and what a difference it has made!She's totally transformed and it was such a releif for us all. No sooner was she more settled though she had a cold a few weeks ago which then went to her chest. I noticed her breathing becoming laboured and had to take her to A&E. She was diagnosed with Bronchilitus and kept in 3 days, poor scrap.
We had to go in again last night as she keeps vomitting- about 20 times yesterday.
I also had my lovely grandad die just before christmas. He fell ill suddenly and I took my nan to the hospital to say goodbye. As we were gonig onto the ward my nan had bad chest pains and had a heart attack. Can you believe it? She was put opposite my grandad on the ward but the lovely nurses moved their beds together so she could be next to him when he died......it gets worse-my mum hasn't spoke to any of us for years. She is an alcoholic with a very nasty temper. I hadn't seen her for 5 years. She turns up at the hospital, drunk, with her new husband and ends up screaming obsenities at me on the ward. Language I can't even type here but as bad as it gets. I was mortified.
We are having the funeral on Monday and I just hope shes not too drunk when she arrives and manages to remain civil. I'm going to stay well out of her way.
We had a phonecall ast night too to say DHs brother had been in a car accident and had to be cut out of it. Luckily hes only got minor injuries.
So you see I've been a bit busy!!Am hoping this is the end of our bad luck. Scarlett is improving but recovery normally takes 3 weeks. MIL is having her overnight while were at the funeral so thats nice.
Haven't had a chance to read through all the posts but I really hope you're all well and enjoying the time with your babies. xx

Oh, Ess....

I am so sorry to hear all of your news. You have had an incredibly tough time. I hope Scarlett is better soon x

Ess hi im new to the thread, but im sorry you have had such an awful time and I hope your mum allows you to say goodbye to your grandad at the funeral. hugs

Winnie -My Hubbie is playing a game of COD 4 with your hubbie -how wierd! Your hubbie has just said that Flashman Curril's wife calls this game 'Kill, Kill, Kill'

stupid question what do you need to take lo swimming? what does she wear, what nappy?

Hi Clu - if you mean Henry -lo I would take him in a swim nappy with a hodded towel. Take the towel in with you. When taking Oliver -3.9 I take his hodded towel which he puts on straight after getting out of the pool and then I use another dry towel to get him dry as the hodded one is always wet when we get to the lockers.

Is that what you menat?

hey ess, so glad to hear from you, so so sorry about all the troubles you've been having, sory about your grandad too . Hopefully this will be the end of what seems to be a run of very bad look and the rest of 2008 will be brighter, my thoughts are with you for the funeral... if you get time come back on and chat, be great to hear all the litle adorable things I bet your lo's been up to

thanks muppet i meant henry as i want to take lily - 11 weeks. I just have no idea what she should wear. should you get swimsuits as well or is a nappy alone fine and do you get the nappy in the supermarket? am i just really thick! lol

Oh Ess what an absolute awful time for you, it really does put everything into perspective. So sorry about your grandad, and nan, how is she doing? Let's hope 2008 is better for you, it really couldn't get any worse. Hope Scarlette is better soon too. {{BIG HUGS}}

clu - you can get the swim nappies in supermarkets, they are called little swimmers, huggies do them. You could just take her in in the nappy, but swimsuits are so cute for lo's too

ess-poor you {{{hugs}}} hopefully things can only get better, am thinking of you xx

clu-you can get swim nappies fron supermarkets or even at the pool itself usually, we sell them for £1. its up to you whether to get a swimsuit, maybe keep lo a bit warmer.

i had a bad night last night, i felt really low, my bf has met a new man and i've hardly seen anything of her, usually we see each other nearly everyday, maybe i sound/am jealous of her bloke but i think i just feel a bit abandoned

well i'm just going to take lo to the emergency doc as i think she may have an ear infection and keeps crying which isn't like her.

Not sure if anyone has any experience of this seeing as most of you are first timers, but if you could take a look at my thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/29/455813?stamp=080113082203 to see if you have any ideas would be helpful. Probably alicet might be best able to advise

Ooops try this

Mrs Fish your poor boy! The amazing thing is that he still smiling!! He's very cute by the way x
Can't add anything sorry but when Ollie had dry skin -not anywhere near as bad as tat though - we were given a massive tub of aquieous cream (sorry sp?) in case it was exema (sp?) it wasn't and it did clear up.

Clu - I didn't use a swimsuit with Ollie as we only went once as it was far too cold for him but he swims in a full swimsuit now - like this

this is the swimming towel with hood we have

Where we go now the baby pool is very warm and Henry is a fat chubber so he won't need a full cosutme to get him warm

little swimmers here

Well, Henry slept till 6am this morning!!! Three nights now he's slept through so fingers crossed. He's still asleep now -he does like to sleep - so I actually need to go and wake him up. Dh and Ollie are off to Ollie's swimming lesson adn I'm off to the Outlet centre as Ollie needs new jeans as he's grown again and H needs 6-9 month babygrows (we aren't dressing him yet) and vests. Looking forward to quite time with Henry and will go for a coffee too then come back and pick DH adn Ollie up.

Ess - still thinking of you, keep in touch x

Muppet - thanks for the advice. I do try and do more things when he is feeling down, like little things around the house. I've discovered too that he's happier when he's got a project, however small, (maybe it's a man thing?) - our cd player blew up yesterday so he's been hunting for a new one, and he's still on the search for some windchimes since I mentioned them the other day. It is a man thing - hunter-gatherer . He went to the football yesterday with some friends, and last night he suggested we go to the garden centre today - such a middle class thing to do on a Sunday but they have a fabulous cafe - whether or not he'll remember today I don't know, but I think these are signs he's improving. When he had a really bad day last week, which was when I got quite worried, it turned out he had a migraine but didn't tell me until it had gone because he didn't want to worry me. Warped logic. A relief though that he probably hadn't slipped back as far as I thought.

Meant to say before Muppet that you looked great when we met up and I would never have guessed that you had suffered with pnd.

Can sympathise with Henry's meltdowns. Hope he's better today.

ess - what a rough time you've had - hopefully things will get better now and Scarlett is ok.

J2O - you're bound to feel a bit left out if your friend suddenly has other priorities. She probably just needs time though to get over the initial honeymoon period - everybody abandons their friends briefly when they're in the first flush of love - things will get back to normal soon I'm sure. Hope your lo is ok.

Had a lovely bedtime routine yesterday - bottle, bath, massage, book, bed. Only a very short bath so that she didn't cry too much when she got out. She loved the massage - lots of cooing - she wasn't sure about having her arms done though as she would rather be waving them about. Had her favourite book too - pictures of baby animals. It would have been perfect if she hadn't then taken half an hour to settle to sleep, but you can't have everything. Definitely going to try and do that routine every evening. We'll ignore the fact that I didn't get to eat until 9:30...

Anya saw horses for the first time yesterday when a couple of riders stopped on the grass banking opposite our house as we were coming back from a walk. She seemed quite mesmerised but she wasn't scared even when one blew down his nose at her.

hi all, well it turns out hannon's got an ear infection, bless her, i knew something wasn't right.

mrsF-Shannon was like that for the first few weeks, i hate some of her early photo's cos her face looks awful, have you tried swapping your wash powder? apparantly some non-bio's are better than others.

Anyasmum-i absolutely love the name Anya, i forgot about it when i went to name Shannon, would have liked it for a middle name but then her initials would have been S.A.D!
re my friend, its more that she keeps telling me she's doing her uni assignment and then i find out her bloke has been round, and she's sneaky about it, she doesn't lie but doesn't volunteer the imfo either, i have to actually ask. i feel a bit like i'm having a bloke that she's known just over a week but before me plus the fact that i met him first and am a bit dubious of him, things don't seem to add up, but thats for her to deal with i suppose.

well i'm on my own all day again, if lo wasn't ill i might have took her for a walk to the pub for sunday dinner ;)