March 2007-Today our babies will mostly be eating.............

[KITTYmaspudding]

ok, new thread, old one full!!

Kitty, I know it doesn't help you much but I remember in baby massage class they were talking about babies grizzling only with their Mums and how it's like when you are upset, you will only show exactly how you feel with those closest to you. So it is flattering, anoying, but flattering.

Bertie does the same to an extent; if he is being babysat, the second I come back he bursts into tears and screams.

Until he gets his gob round a nork that is.

Henry the hoover makes me think of Russell Brand stand-up joke about something a bit rude.

Oh he's awake. Bertie I mean not RB. Back later!!

foxy that feeding pattern sounds beyond a bloody joke
DS1 was like that I lasted to 15 mths and thought sod this, he is truly taking the proverbial.

Yeah I think Monti's problem is he can only drink 4oz at a time - so he feeds often. More than 4oz and he just vomits it up anyway

Mossy - go on you must tell us the Russell Brand joke now that you have mentioned it!!

Teehee I can't remember the actual words but it was something to do with it being unfair to paint a face on a hoover as it was so tempting!!

I must admit, I know it's wrong but I quite fancy RB.

Hi everyone waves

I thought I would pop in as I saw Rosy was asking after me.

Well Deanna is certainly growing up.Shes now crawling very fast and has managed to stand up holding onto the bars of her cot or play pen.Still only the 2 teeth.
We have all had the various colds etc and Deanna was on antibiotics again.
In the past 2 weeks she has learnt to wave,clap and say mum.
We are teaching her to use a cup and putting her on more solid food which is working out okay.Tried cottage pie,sausage and mash,chilli con carne.
As for routine
8am-Wakes up and has breakfast of ready brek etc and bottle of milk
11am -Snack
11.45 Nap for about half hour
1pm-lunch then bottle of milk
4ish-Nap
5pm-Dinner
7.30ish Changed for bed,bottle and put down in cot,she sleeps through till around 7 or 8.

As for no 2 baby,everythings still going well and im 23 weeks already eeeek.

methinks RB is only good for one thing...

Hi shanks, glad everything's going swimmingly

I'm CONVINCED that RB is gay, he just looks so and speaks so.

ok folk i want to ask you something as i know you are a nice bunch . . i am stressed out at the moment with various things going on . . at tea time tonight dd would not eat her tea no matter what i did or how much i encouraged / praised her. mealtimes are an ongoing prob with her i.e. she eats very little and she won't sit on her chair to eat. she nearly 5 now. today i asked what she would like for supper. tomato soup and toast came the reply. so i make it exactly the way she wants. but she won't eat, saying 'there is butter on the toast'. she is ill with a cold and needs to eat. she started messing around totally and refused to sit still, then started crying so the baby wouldn't eat either. i'm also ill and have no voice so couldnt' encourage her to eat by talking / telling her a story / d
istracting as i usually do. i lost it a bit. i ended up banging a yogurt down really hard on the table so it broke (don't laugh) and - much worse - i said she was a horrible child. then i took the baby in the other room as he was really freaked out.

i didn't mean to say that to her - i never say things like that. in fact i am paranoid about self-esteem and the effect you can have on your children. because i'm on my own, the pressure on me is amplified. the stress just got to me.

you probably all think i'm a terrible mum now but the stress of both kids not eating food i'd just cooked when they needed to eat, it was just too much.

have i ruined her self-belief forever?! afterwards when we'd made up, she said 'mummy i didn't think you loved me anymore when you called me horrible'

when we talked about it after we had both calmed down i made sure she understood i didn't mean that and what i meant was that her BEHAVIOUR was horrible not her. i probably reiterated this too much actually! poor love. i think she just took the brunt of all my accumulated stress the mealtime thing is really, really getting to me and i'm worried it will start to affect ds . . any ideas anyone on how to get a reluctant child to eat / not be bothered by it if she doesn't?

trix... I've always just left my kids if they did not eat. Offered them only banana or cereal instead of tea. Never made an issue of it.
Serves us well, and dd eats like a sparrow snacking when under the weather plus she is so tired and precious, we give her space and let her have what she wants when she wants.
so 95% of the time she eats fine in which case the other 5% ...well...

Deanna sounds great Shanks, just like Finn (aside from the night sleep ) Finn crawls relaly fast now and he is climbing up on anything, including 5yo dd, who he topples quite easily bless her.

She is fianlly back to school tomorrow, she seems better. Phew.

Now I've got another cracking sore throat
ARGH

Finn has his 5th tooth through properly now. Came through without a peep

He is a dancer! Have ipod on in kitchen most nights and downloaded my brothers MP3's ready for xmas - loads of crap, macarena etc
Finn dug it! Was rocking from side to side. Well funny, even when DP hummed the tune later, Finn did it again. Very cute.

Am covered in bruises and stuff from Finn climbing on me, he is like the terminator, rough and mean!
Right must go, am tired and throat ow ow ow

oh FWIW would go for RB as well
I love a man that can talk more than me. Not met one yet though

Deanna really loves High School Musical as soon as she hears the music she starts rocking and clapping her hands.

Trixa {{{hugs}}} to you.
My advice on the food front would be always to let it go. If you make an issue of it it will get worse and your dd will know that it matters to you and will use it as a means of attention seeking there is no doubt.
If she doesn't eat say nothing, nothing at all, pay attention to the (hopefully)eating baby.You need to reduce stresses seeeing as you are dealing with it all alone, don't sweat the small stuff and chose your battles.
It is very hard for you as it all falls on your shoulders but if it helps I have done a lot worse to my children and I'm sure I will in the future,
none of us are perfect and you know, sometimes, it is good for them to see that you are a human, with feelings that can be bruised.
Ahe will recover easily.
Remember :Pick your battles carefully and don't be so hard on yourself you're doing a fab job

oops, matronly advice over with!!!!

Trix-what Kitty said This is a problem for me too.
My dd (almost 5) is similar. She can not sit properly in her seat while ds2 (age 3) sits politely and eats everything.
She usually spills something, she often falls off her chair because she wriggles and dances about....I now ignore it all. I let her eat what she will. I give her as much ketchup as she likes .
I won't let her drink her fruit juice until she has eaten something or else she just fills up on that. If she is really picking I say she can eat 5 mouthfulls because she is nearly five and I feed her a spoonfull of tonic which she likes.

As for ds1 (age 16) he is a total nightmare. He never clears his plate and then eats bowls of cereal all evening. If I make him sandwhiches and he feeds them to the school cat. He avoids the train inspector and spends his fare in kfc most days. He won't eat fruit. I have failed miserably with his eating habits

It's not totally the same as being a single parent but I am on my own most of the time with the kids. Dh lives /works in cork and when he visits us (for a couple of days every 2/3 weeks) he is usually not about at tea time or if he is, he goes and eats in front of the tv and leaves me to it with the children.
Sometimes I have bad days too. It sounds to me as though you are doing really really well.

Shanks great to hear your bizz. Deanna is one great sleeper isn't she! That's brilliant.

Hasan loves music too. He sings along when anyone sings.

Last night he was playing chase with ds2 who was crawling fast around the floor and Hasan was chasing him, catching him and trying to eat him. Hasan was squealing with delight.
They are so funny. Ds2 isn't much bigger than Hasan and they are always grabbing each other and rolling around like puppies.

We have sore throats too. dd is still in bed unwell and missing school. That's why I'm sitting here breastfeeding and writing a whole essay

Rosy...
I was that kid at 15, used to walk 4 miles and spend lunch money on fags and fast food.
Now I am a mentalist about healthy eating and am a stunningly good cook (I've been told)esp of indian food from scratch (you will slap me down LOL)

I love good food
Eventually the kids get nosey and says what's that
I say oh you won't like it to dd who is 5, she always argues so reverse psyhcology this years success was beetroot and mushrooms...
To ds1 who is 13 if he says ugh I say, it's not for you anyway, thse are far too special and expensive and exquisitely prepared for the likes of your 5 donuts for 50p eating self kiddo... so he now loves king prawns, spinach and rocket

See, now Finn, the further away I place it, the more he wants it... fresh coriander and basil,he loves the leaves....

I parent like that

But like Kitty said
Pick your battles... no kid ever starved themselves to death really at age 5. Be calm and blase, be really careful about what you offer as an alternative if anything. And just act like it's no biggie. No attention will freak her out, if she figures she has to eat to get it...
they don't hold out long....

walk 4 miles and save the bus fare...

sorry to piff and rosy - that sore throat doing the rounds is horrid Get well soon .

Samuel normally goes to bed at around 8.30 when dd and ds1 also go up to bed... I always like to tuck them up with him in tow so he can see them settling down and closing their eyes... they think it's hilarious pretending to go to sleep in front of him... I have no idea whether it helps him learn that it's sleep time... prolly not!
He then screams for anything from 20 seconds to half an hour... depending on how he feels... and wakes about 3am for a scream and 5am for another scream.
I try to hold out for as long as poss b4 he comes in with me now for boob!

dd put some little wellingtons on him yesterday and he "walked" down the hall holding hands with dd and ds1... very cute but i find all these developments are tinged with sadness as I honestly had totally forgotten what hard work they are as toddlers... oops

Piffle yummy, I make a good curry from scratch too, which all the children do eat so I need to do it more, but I'm not highly motivated to cook, I'm so sick of my efforts being picked at and wasted. I much prefer being cooked for, I'm a lazy cow.
And I'm all for reverse phsycology too .
Oh well maybe ds1 will grow up into a healthy eater then. I hope so.

yes trix... second what kitty and piff said... I've been there with ds1 who was rubbish at eating at times... I'm pretty certain i threw some bolognaise up the wall once ...

... didn't work...

... all you can do is check they are still drinking and limit snacks between meals...

... as soon as their little tummies are properly empty they do tend to change their minds about whether or not toast has butter etc

Hi Muppet, Samuel walking, that'll be the next thing. I wonder who'll be first. Dd was walking at 10 monthsdon't think hasan will be that quick-hope not eek!

Finn is able to stand alone, would say he is still some way from walking though, but his cruising is taking off, suspect he will do it before he is 1, but you never can tell
ds1 walked at 9 mths ARRGHHH scary stuff
dd at 26 mths

ho hum

afternoon everyone. hate not having computer as after weekends i have so much to catch up on!!!
in regards to sleep Hayden goes ot bed between 8 and 8.30 usually as if he sometimes he falls asleep in my arms and goes earlier. he will wake several times in the night but they are feeble whinges and he is usually half asleep still, he wakes up between 5 and 6 and i will bring him in with me if so for a feed and to fall back asleep.

and he had cheesy scrambled egg the other night and loved it. one of hte only 'grown up' meals that did not go to the dogs! (i finished it!!!)
last night saw dp and we had romantic slow sex, would not let him og down there as if you remember in an earlier post i was on strike in shaving and so therefore i was a bit embarrassed in him seeing the state down there though i had managed to shave my legs in the bath while Hayden was having his bath!! just hope he was not covered in my short hairs after!!!

oh ans Hayden is standing too, he actually prefers to, using anything near for support even a dog sat minding its own business. he (baby not dog) can walk wiht those vtech speak walker things iykwim!!

bethoo I'm very

I had 2 walking at 9 months, the others all at 10 months. I honestly don't think it makes any difference. Once they can move they can move iyswim.

I went for Ronnie's physio appt today.

Brighton has a brand spanking new children's hospital, only been open 2 months so everything is CLEAN, no toys are broken. It looks like a space ship on the inside, it's truly amazing.
The old hospital where dd1 spent some time was Victorian and crumbling but had some charm too.

Anyway they didn't tell me anything I hadn't looked up .
I've got to try and get him to look to the right and stretch the right side of his neck. Easier said then done with a bad tempered baby.
She (physio) said "We usually see them younger than this"
Me (after a few secs thought) I must be a neglectful mother then

Bethoo may I borrow him please for my birthday?

Trix - echo what Rosy and Kittwise say. If she has a sore throst she will not eat. DS1 didn't eat for a year as he had throat infections. Let her drink and nibble bits of yogurt, soup, even ice cream.

If its any consolation, my local thread will tell you how - when they were at my house for a meet, my DD called someone a little bastard. I went very red as I could clearly remember calling DS1 that in a fit of exhaustion/frustration

Give her a big hug - as long as she knows she is loved its Ok for her to see mummy gets a bit upset sometimes - you are only human and kids need to know they can only push you so far. If you are ill yourself, you will feel a bit down anyway.