August 2007 - milk, mash or puree - take your pick and take cover!

[shrinkingsagpuss]

James - sorry, couldn't wait any longer... hope my link works...

GillL - DD hardly ever smiles, let alone laughs!! I find myself telling people she's very serious baby, she sort of studies people with a big frown on her face, and then she might give you a beam if you are really lucky. Well, she smiles at me lots, but its everyone else she is less giving to!!

She was a bugger last night. I woke her at 10, she could hardly stay awake, and she doesn't do dream feeds, plus if she's asleep she doesn't bring up any wind.

then she woke at 1, for more milk, then 4 because she had wind because she fell asleep too quickly. I got her back to sleep againf airly fast then DS was up at 5.40 and wouldn't go back. At least DD then stayed asleep tl 7.30. I can't work out this night feed thing. It is almost like she doesn't really need it, but I don't understand why the time changes every blumin night!

James found the thread - "flat headed babies www.mumsnet.com/Talk/8/123249 "

why do they never work? i always follow the damn instructions!!

GillL

I have about 3 stone to lose [blush} although if i look at weight watchers it about 5 stone. As i am about 13 st and 5ft 1in and they say i should be 7st 7lb. But i think if i could get back to a size 10/12 i would be happy.

Lizzie - I'm 5ft 2in and 9st 11lb. I haven't read the ww manual for a while but I thought my ideal weight was about 8st 6lb. I'm currently just squeezing into a size 14 and really want to get down to a size 12 but 10 would be great. I have so many nice clothes in those sizes up in the loft that I would love to be able to wear again.

ooh am very of all these babies sleeping well at night - mine is like you wre saying sagpuss - waking a t different times every night. i think he does need the food as he sucks hard for a reasonable amount of time and then goes back to sleep quickly but its still hard for every single night to be broken at least twice if not three or four times.

i feel like i am doing something wrong, but am doing a calm bedtime routine and he's always fine going to sleep the first time - its just the amount of times he wakes in the night.

am also keen to get a bumboo chair - ds loves being propped up. also going to buy a mobile today as his cot finally arrived. hoping that hlps him sleep better.

am trying not to worry about weight and just concntrate on getting the running up to an hour by christmas.

mamamila - i know what you mean about the slings facing out - i'd always read it was better not to, but ds loves facing out in his running buggy, so am thinking about letting him face out in the sling. in think its another of these things that the absolute best thing to do is face them in, but unless your baby has hip problems, you wont actually do them any harm by facing out.

You're not doing anything wrong. I think it's much more common for bf babies to wake in the night for a lot longer than ff babies. My niece was exclusively bf for 6 months. She was still waking twice or more each night at 4 months. And if you're not using a dummy then they will probably be waking up and feeding for comfort. Ds has a dummy and, at the moment, I give it to him once or twice in the night when I hear him starting to wake. He goes back to sleep straight away so I know he's not hungry.

Ok I'll make you all feel better I have about ooh... 11 stone to lose LOL But at least I'm going to be heading in the right direction from now on. you've got to start somewhere! I'd be happy as a size 16 actually, I'm not expecting to get down to a 10. As long as I can keep up with J when he starts running about I'll be pleased.

We're off christmas shopping today to Chester, hope everyone's having a nice day!

Banana

You still do better then me, i keep finding excuses as to why i can not start a diet.

Good luck with your christmas shopping. I am have to finish mine this saturday by myself as (d)H has to go to work.

He sulked last night when he said he had to go work, when i had already asked him to help me with the few last bits. He said can we not do it next saturday.

No we can't DD1 has a birthday party 11 - 1pm and then her nursery christmas party 2 - 4pm.

The following saturday she has another birthday party.

So i am going to have to borrow mum's car and do it myself .

Well popped to clinic to get Caitlin weighed and she'd put on 9oz in a week so I guess that answers my question that she is getting enough food. Health visitor also said not to bother with the dream feed as she was only taking 2-4oz it wasn't worth the effort.

Feel much better now.

Popped into clinic on my way back from post natal exercise class that I'm doing with all my NCT class. Really enjoy the aerobics but hate the toning section but we all go for coffee and cake afterwards so that makes up for it. They have a creche and Cait seems to have a good time. All the creche helpers are oap's who seem to love looking after all the babies. Very funny.

hurrah - am now in law free!

had so little sleep in last 2 days! ds1 had sickness bug and spewed all over our bed 3 times! - have a huge washing mountain. ds2 gone back to new born feeding - last night woke for 1st feed at 1.30 after dreamfeed (awake) at 11. helpful mil suggested he might not be getting enough milk - as he looks like budda i'm not thinking this is the issue!

just got him off after 4.30 feed when the other 2 started running around - even ringing father christmas didn't make them go back to bed!

banana - i'm getting loads of those loving gazes too - I'm enjoying them loads before he morphs into an evil school child who tells me that i'm a poo head!

am also going to be dieting, need to lose about 3 stone hoping to lose about 2ish. dh has also been pigging out with me for last year so we're doing it after christmas - think this is backfiring though as i'm seeing this as an excuse to stuff my face until then!

This weekend i'll be mainly trying to make a hedgehog outfit for dds nativity play - was just going to dress her in brown but found out yesterday that school are expect slightly more of me than that!

hiya, lo weighs 8lb 1oz today seems ok after his injections jest a few crying periods, we went to witherspoons for luch and was so embarassed because ds2 tantrumed and cried the whole time i ended up having to wait outside with him until lunch was ready as everyone was staring. but ive got him some bonjela and calpol which seemed to brighten him up a bit.
bought my christmas tree today so i have to put it up tonight cause i cant wait till the 1st.
poor you sagpuss sounds like you had a hard night, hopefully you get a bit more sleep tonight.
well off to tidy before dp gets home from work to help with decorating.

morning, ds2 is trying to pull the tree down just as i thought, but they both got really excited when they seen it bless, even last night lo was loving looking at the light but it wasnt wrong before he got grumpy again. i dont understand why my hv keeps telling me to get calpol as lo cant take it, as soon as he tastes it he starts to push it back out with his tounge then it goes down his nose then he starts panicking and choking and ive tried everything. how was everyones night?
i didnt get to bed until 2am and then lo was up at 4 then 7.30.
just gonna tidy up today boring (i sound soo enthusiastic)

Well my plans for yesterday went astray to say the least. As you know I was going to go straight home to exercise. However, mum phoned me at 2pm to say that dd wasn't well. She kept saying she was cold and was laying on mum's lap for ages - that is definitely not like her. When I got there she was asleep and really hot. She slept for 2 hours and then had some food as she didn't want any lunch. I got them both in the car, drove round the corner and then the traffic was completely stopped. It took me 25 minutes just to get down one road. I didn't get home til 20 to 7 Luckily dh had made the dinner as I was starving. Ds went to bed at 8:30 but dd didn't go til 10. I was just about to get into bed at 11:15 when dd called me saying she needed a drink. I'm so tired.

I missed out on having to work on xmas day by the skin of my teeth (we're a 24x7 helpdesk and open all bank holidays). Because I've only just got back to work I was last but one supervisor to be consulted. I had the choice (huh) of working xmas day 12-8pm or new years day 12-8pm. There was no way I was missing out on xmas day so I opted for new year (which I don't really celebrate anyway). So I have lots of catching up to do on all the new processes that I don't even normally have to know about, just in case any servers go down or something like that. Fortunately I don't have to work from 24th - 27th so I get 2 free days off anyway

That's good news Hersetta. Did you skip the dream feed last night? How did Caitlin sleep?

Dh said we're not having our tree up for a couple more weeks. The cats will destroy it while we're out. I'm looking forward to decorating it with dd. We're going to make some decorations together.

Tasha, have you ever tried using a medicine dummy. Dd would never take medicine on a spoon so it was the only way. Gets it right to the back of their throat and because their sucking anyway they automatically swallow. There's a plunger on it so you push it in rather than them having to suck it in.

Tasha, have you got a syringe to administer the calpol with? Don't know if it would help but it's so much easier with James to squirt it in rather than spoon it in- he manages to get it on his top, then stuffs his hands in it and grabs my hair, all within 0.3 of a second.

I was up til 2am working on a drawing I need to do for a MNer because I never get time to do it during the day as dp won't mind him for long, so I have to wait til lo is asleep (which cuts into my sleep!) So of course J woke up at 2.20am, and I thought "no, you had two feeds at bedtime, you don't need a full feed now" so I bf him instead, and the little sod fed for nearly an HOUR. Gah.

Then he had me up at 4am for a bottle feed, then dp's radio alarm came on at 6am (he slept on) and to make matters worse it wasn't tuned in so I was listening to half static half cheesy pop. As usual he was nasty when I complained, and said "What it is you want me to do?" so I snapped "Set your alarm for the time you actually want to get up, NOT half an hour before, and then GET UP instead of lying there ignoring me!" but he just called me a miserable cow.

Last time we had a major row and I was thinking about calling it a day I cited this as one of the reasons why and he swore he'd change. He doesn't realise how wearing it is on me every day- I'd get more sleep as a single parent. I just don't know what more I can say to him on the subject, bottom line is he just doesn't care. He thinks he gets less sleep than me because he works (despite never waking for any night feeds ever) so he's jealous and has no sympathy for me, and actually I think sometimes he does this out of spite so that I "know how he feels"

Anyway sorry for moaning! Need to throw some cold water over him!

aww gill how is she today, i hate when they get sick i always feel so helpless.
have you ever heard of the haberman feeder, well thats the type of bottle he has its hard to explain how it works but it has a very long teat which goes far back then becuse he doesnt really suck you have to squeeze it and it has different speeds but ive tried putting it in his bottle and he done the same he has even turned blue on a couple of occasions, i seen them dummies your talking about in smiths yesterday ill get one and give it a go.

morning james, poor you, and at your dp, they are all the same my dp sets the alarm for like an hour befre he gets up too and its on my side of the bed but im much too tierd to care but i remember my dp after i had ds1 (different dp) it used to annoy me alot more as once i was awake i found it really hard to get back to sleep and as if the alarm wasnt bad enough his mum would ring to make sure he was up? lol have you tried changing the time when hes asleep
i hope you get it sorted.
i have tried a syringe and it doesnt work, ive tried all different shapes and sizes too.

there i go again, not meaning that your not tierd cause after the night you had im sure you are meaning really that i find it easier to get back to sleep now

im soo sick of washing and sterilizing bottles feels like ive been doing it for 3 years.........wait i have!

That's awful James. Maybe you need to wake him up everytime James gets up in the night just to prove you're up and get less sleep. He'll soon get fed up with it. I have to admit though that I sometimes press the snooze button for up to half an hour but it doesn't wake dh up anyway. I wonder why it woke him up when I was on mat leave but not now?

Ds seems to have got himself into a routine of waking at 6:30 every morning now instead of me having to wake him up. I need to get up at 6 in order to have a shower so I'm finished in time to feed him. Dh is responsible for getting dd up and ready to go. He's not too impressed at having to get up half an hour earlier than he used to but it's tough.

I know how you feel about bottles tasha. Dd has only just had her bottles taken away from her and she's 2.8. If I let her she would have had up to 6 bottles of milk a day even now. Now I've got ds's to do. Fortunately it's only 2 a day in the week and 5 at the weekend when I've got more time. My mum's good to me and washes and sterilises the 3 she gives ds in the day.

thats good gill. ds2still has bottles but hes only one and i dont sterilize them any more he has one at night one in the morning and 2 throughout the day or he starts to tantrum

Sorry tasha. Forgot to answer your question. Dd seemed fine this morning. She didn't complain of being cold and her temperature had gone down a lot. She seemed to be back to her normal self. I told mum to call if there were any problems but I haven't heard from her so I'm assuming that no news is good news.

aww thats good mabe just a 24 hour bug.

Dd would insist on milk in a bottle when she was tired which is why she could have had 4 or 5 bottles from about 2pm til the time she went to sleep. She would scream if I said no so I did it for an easy life especially when I was pg.