Babies born Nov

[Riebee]

Right oh this should be ok this time. I hope I've done it right this time - If not I'm giving up!!!
Posted the thread under pregnacy last time.

Hi mum2ela, would you mind sharing your timetable with me? what time to you give lunch and dinner where do the bf fit in as i really want to start weaning a bit more methodically this week. thanks x

Hello november mums! My Dd is still in her moses basket at the moment but i think she really needs to move into her cot soon as she is starting to look a bit cramped in there. Any mums who have done the move? How did your little ones take to it? should i dedicate a week or so to trying it? I am dreading it a bit as Dd does sleep really well in crib.

buddhamummy - my dd2 went into a cot almost 2 months ago as the moses basket was just way too small - she loved it - no broken sleep - think she was grateful for the room. I just put her straight into the cot - think she also likes being able to see through the sides and check where we are.

A friend of mine when transferring put the moses basket into the cot for a few nights and then moved her daughter into the cot.

Am I the only one not weaning yet?!?! Dd2 is 21 weeks already!!!

Hi All

DD2 is a little poppet. She sleeps well, and I've just started to wean her with baby rice - I'd forgotten how awful it tastes though, so I can't wait until I give her some carrot and stuff.

As for the whether to wean or not debate, I think as mummies we know when our children needs something more than formula. You can really beat yourself up about doing what people say is right, but you're the ones with your little ones day in day out, surely you know what's best for them?

DD2 is not rolling over either but I'm not bothered. She's happy and experience with DD1 showed me that comparing with other children will make you worried (DD1 didn't walk until 14 months old!!). In the end I think they all catch up.

Well it's nice to hear that you're well and enjoying your DS/DD. Does anyone go back to work soon, or has anyone gone back? I go back in 1 months time today, and I'm dreading it!!!

Take care all

Hi all,

Buddamummy DS has lunch between 12 and 1pm, and dinner around 4 - 5.30pm ish, it depends on where we are and I cant be as fixed with times as I was with DD asthis time round we are rarely in the house. Also depends on how DS has slept during the day. He always goes to sleep at 9am, and then usually 12ish, but only for half hour at a time.
I moved DS into his cot about 2.5 mths ago, and into his own room about a month ago. You may find your DD will just move into her cot without any problem buyt if you do have a problem, try putting the moses basket inside the cot for a couple of days amd let her sleep like that, to get used to the adjustment.

Pandabear I am not going back to work. I was on maternity leeave, but let my employers know within the time limit that I had changed my mind. I only worked 2 days a week anyway and it was more for my sanity than financial reasons iyswim. Am debating whether to start a part time masters in September (if they will have me!).

Re: the rolling over. I think the age to start worrying id after 7 mths ish and even then not to worry as such iykwim, but thats the kindof outer window.

I think we should all relax about everything!

Ds has rolled once but sits quite well for a few seconds and that is great.

I am BFing and EBM and weaning. He now has 3 meals a day and loves it! He doesnt sleep well after his 11pm feed but we are surviving!

I moved him into a cot months ago and it is fine and he does like it.

His routine is
7.30am Breastfeed
8.30am Breakfast of cereal
9am Sleep
10.30am Play
1pm Lunch of (today)Breastfeed and then cabbage/potato Pear
Afternoon Play and sleep (tho no sleep after 4pm)
5.30pm Bath
6-6.30pm Tea of (today) Pumpkin then Apple
7pm Breastfeed and Bed
11pm Breastfeed with EBM
And then whatever happens at night with BM feeds

It works for us and he seems very happy.

Webmum, if dd seems happy then I wouldnt introduce formula but keep doing what you are doing.

DS weighs 18.7lbs.....chubby boy!!

mmm was just asking re the weaning out of curiosity, although have had a couple of people tell me it was time to put dd2 onto baby rice at least. She is showing no sign of wanting food - despite dd1 trying to feed her at times

I guess in terms of development - I am lucky - perhaps what stops me from worrying about what dd2 should do when is that I have no idea. Dd1 has down syndrome and so we chucked the development books out the window and just developed at her pace. As long as I saw some change and development I was happy. I also realised that she would do things in her own time.

Dd2 is rolling over, pushing herself up on her arms, the legs sometimes come up too and she then flops back down. Lots of babbling with the odd shout thrown in, very observant ( nosy!!) loves watching dd1 who makes her laugh. We had our very own version of punch and judy yesterday. Dd2 and dh were sitting on our bed and dd1 was moving up and down the foot of the bed, laughing, pulling faces chatting to dd2 - very cute.

eidsvold

I think maybe we all should chuck the development books out the window . I would if I had one.
I think they will just thingd when they are good and ready, theres no point in stressing about it.
Mind you I think ds3 will be about 18 when he sleeps through!

Ds3 is 6mths this wk, can't believe how quick it has gone. I had him weighed today and he's 20lbs 9ozs....who ate all the pies
I don't know where it all comes from really as he's not overly chubby, I think he's very long in the leg as clothes for his age fit the top half but too short in the leg. Would like to say he get it all from me but sadly I think that would be a bit of a fib.

Hope everyone is ok.

Goodness it's been busy on here!!!
Well despite my best efforts and a few tears I've had to start weaning DS. My milk supply could no longer keep up and on Fri evening I didn't have enough for his bedtime feed.So I had to give him formula, which really upset me! It seemed the longer I managed to BF for, the less willing I was to give him anything else. I decided that I would start weaning that evening as DS didn't settle. He drank loads of the formula from DP but cried the whole time and didn't settle until I went to give him a cuddle . I gave him some baby rice, I think in retrospect I gave him lots more than I was supposed to but it all went down beautifully!

So he is on two meals of just baby rice atm, he eats really well. I'll move on to other foods later this week, I've made and frozen carrots, apples and potato and broccoli. I'm going on a bit of a mission to try and get organic stuff. Not sure how long that will last! Since I started weaning he seems to be sleeping about 10hrs a night straight through.

He is rolling over more again now, although only from tummy to back, not the other way at all. His new favourite thing is to scream, really high pitch, over and over again when he is enjoying himself. He also enjoys stuffing his hand in my mouth while bf and making me pretent to eat it over and over again - only once he has quenched his initial appetite mind!

thanks for all the replies, but things have quite changed since my last post...dd2 seemed happy and content but after a week of sleeping 12 hours a day, she started waking up for a feed again and then ona couple of occasions I found my milk was not enough, and not just at bedtime, and she had 7oz of formula, downed in seconds!!

Like you Flossam I am a bit disappointed that I couldn't b/feed exclusively..anyway, as long as they grow and they're happy!!
SO I think she's really getting hungrier, last night she woke at 10.30pm and again at 2 am!! So tomorrow I'm starting weaning for sure. She's now 22 weeks and last week weighed 13.6

Am not worried about her rolling over, but because dd1 was so early in everything, I am not sure what to expect from dd2.

Hi everyone. I'm new to the webchat thing and I am intrigued to know what DD stands for, can anyone enlighten me? I understand from the context that it means your baby but what are the initials for? It is probably something really obvious and I will be totally embarassed by my stupid question.

Hello again, I have just found the page explaining the abbreviations so no need to answer the last question. I too have a DD!She is now almost 21 weeks old. I am so relieved to find this website for some advice. My DD is a gorgeous, happy little girl until she gets tired. She then thrashes around,cries and screams until she eventually goes off to sleep. She doesn't do this at nighttime fortunately, but it happens two or three times in the day. We have tried cuddles and rocking her but then she wakes up when she is put down and the whole process starts again.I hate to see her so distressed and I find it really stressful when I am out in public and she does it. People look at me as if I am not looking after her properly. She also cries very loudly when she wants a feed.I find myself frantically trying to warm her bottle (I am a failed breastfeeder) before the cry turns into screams. I have tried to get her into a routine and possibly feed her before we go out but she won't take it until she is ready. I see other mums when I go out and they look so in control. I try to go out most days but find myself feeling tense in case my DD starts to have a crying bout.When I visit friends or relatives I can see them wince when she starts to cry. Some friends have suggested giving her a dummy but I have tried this and she spat it out. Can anyone help?

Welcome millymummy! Now you have found mumsnet you will be hooked for life!

Congrats on your dd! You must be v proud!

With the crying when she is tired malarky, do you have set times for naps? Perhaps she is overtired by the point when she cries a lot and is inconsolable, regular nap times might get her into a bit of a routine? Also, perservere with the dummy if you think it might help. Sometimes it takes them a while to get the gist, you might have to hold it there for a bit. Also remember your baby crying is just the worst and most stressful sound to you in the world, but have you niticed how other babies crying doesn't make you feel like this? So I wouldn't think your baby's cry worries other people too much in public. Wait til your dd is a toddler and having those lovely tantrums, you don't care by then what they do! (espec. when they are weeing all over shops and in the case of my dd, biting other children at nursery - tho I care a lot about that one. What must the other mothers think ).

btw, will your dd take bottles at room temp rather than warm? If she will, you may be better off mixing the feed as you need it. Keep bottles of cooled boiled water with you when you are out (no need to keep cold etc.) and just tip in the milk powder as and when dd wants feeding. Avent do a little plastic container with 3 compartments which will hold 3 feeds worth' of powder. They are v. handy!

hth.

x

Hi mum2ela, thanks for the advice. How do you get into a nap routine though? If I think she is due for a sleep and put her down into her moses basket she cries and puts her arms up to be picked up. Also, I am talking about when we are out and she is in her buggy. She can be happily looking around and smiling one minute and having a complete paddy the next.

At the mo I am trying to get DS into a nap routine, tho its more difficult this time round as we aren't often in the house. And he isn't much of a sleeper! He naps at 9am and am going to be putting in another nap time of 2pm to try and make him go to bed a bit later (7pmish, now he is in bed by 5.30 - 6!).

Are you sure she is tired when she is crying? If you have ruled out everything else (teeth, nappy wet / dirty, bored, just wants a cuddle or change of scenery) and she is defo tired, how long do you leave her sry before picking her up? Whaty I mean is, if tyou leave her for a minute or so, does she get bored with the crying and go to sleep?

Just had a thought. She may just be one of those babies that hates pushchairs. My DD hated being in a pushchair, it had to be moving at all times for her to be semi-ok with the situation. Was a nitemare. It did mean tho that she was happy to walk quite a way from a young age.

Also, is her feed time usually just before her nap time? Could you try to re-jig her feeding time a little bit so that when she is starting to get a bit tired she has her bottle and will then fall asleep full up and happy? Or if you cant do that and she won't have a dummy, when she cries cos she is tired, give her a bottle of water to suck? Might take her mind off the crying by distracting her and also the sucking may make her go off quicker.

Not sure if I am being useful or not! But have nothing else to do atm (well, bar the washing, ironing etc ), so will continue to think.

I defo think tho that routines are the key!

Hi mum2ela,
I assume that the crying is because of tiredness because she always falls asleep after the crying bout. If I leave her to cry for a while it just escalates. If I pick her up and give her a cuddle she has her paddy and then nods off in my arms. The trouble is I am then stuck until she wakes (hence my reason for being on this laptop for so long). If I try to lay her down she wakes and the process starts again. I know the crying is not boredom because when she is like it she will not be brought out of it by any of my efforts to entertain her. You are quite right about the movement thing. She definitely likes the buggy or the car to be moving, when we stop she protests. I did think it could be teething because she drools and has flushed cheeks, but she has had this for weeks without any signs of any teeth. Also, as I said before, she always falls asleep aftewards.r

I've changed my ID from millymummy to heffalump as I wanted a fun name like everyone else, hope I haven't confused you all. Thankyou for the advice. Trying today to put DD down to sleep after her lunch (we have just started on babyrice), to try to get into a routine. She seemed tired after feeding but now I have put her into her basket she is crying her little head off. Anyway I will keep trying and let you know how I get on.

pics of dds on the profiles topic if anyone is interested

eids...lovely dd1 got a cheeky twinkle in her eye.dd2 looks very pleased with herself
My boys are on there around 6th March under riebees boys take2,ds3 has changed an awful lot as only 6weeks and very startled looking on that photo!. must update it really.
Poor ds3 is not very well at all and has been running a temperature for two days, I thought it was to do with his teething but now not so sure, I will take him to the doctors tomorrow...I need some sleep!

Hi All.

Riebee - hope he gets better soon and you get some rest!!!! Heffalump, I've been reading your posts. My DD2 was also like that at first, she would fall asleep with me and then cry the instant I put her down. I just persisted I;m afraid.... you have to suffer the pain at some point with them, otherwise they'll be stuck with the wanting to sleep in your arms all the time!! I used to put her down for 10 minutes and then go back to her. Then next day I'd leave her for 20 minutes etc etc. Then suddenly one day, she decided just to go off on her own! Now she doesn't cry at all when I put her down for naps... she does suck her thumb though so maybe that comforts her as well.

I can't believe that I've only got 2.5 weeks left before I have to go abck to work. I'm dreading it. I will truly miss my two beautiful girls - but I guess needs must!! In fact, my Mum has got them today, she'll be looking after them when I go back to work so we're getting her, them and myself used to it. I feel a bit lost at the moment, should be doing housework or something but can't be bothered .

As for DD2, I took her to be weighed yesterday for the first time in 2 months and she has shot up from just under the 25 centile to over 50 ... hurrah, she looks like a chubby little pumpkin now, just the way babies should be.

Hope everyone is well. Am I the only one who has to go back to work? Feel a bit sorry for myself on this one and just wondering how everyone else is coping with the idea

I am back at work too but I love it so it isnt a burden. I get my boys all day, put them to bed and then nip next door to work in the restaurant. We have baby monitors in the kitchen so if they wake up I can nip back.

DH has taken over the sleep routine at night as he is very tough! He refuses to let ds2 sleep in our bed and insists he goes in the cot. Last night he slept from 11pm til 6am and woke because of a stinky nappy. I slept with ds1 and today I am very happy!

Welcome Heffalump!

Oooh, the whole back to work thing is doing my head in!! I was hoping to do some agency before I went back rather than just be thrown in at the deep end. I've also applied for other jobs at a higher grade (more money and I have enough experience), that I am waiting to hear back about. The upshot is I have to give 28 days notice, and as far as I know I have 3 weeks holiday minimum still to take! I think my money is going to run out. The holiday pay when it comes should help to make up for it. We're having to move again and all my money is running through my fingers . Think I might end up getting in more debt again to afford the time off. Am beginning to feel ready to return now, dosen't scare me quite so much anymore.

DS is lovely still although into absolutely everything. Getting a picture of him now is hard work as he just wants to grab the camera!! Bless. Weaning seems to be going well now, apart from when he had a cold. He seems to eat quite happily anything that is thrown at him! Trying to do it all organic, although I'm relying quite heavily on the jars atm . We're moving in 10 days and I just have too much to think about. He is also having one bottle of formula a day as I was finding my supply couldn't keep up with him. That seems to be working out well.

I'm back to the weight I was pre pregnancy. Still bigger than I'd like but progress all the same! Determined next time not to pig out all the time... although easier said than done I know! How is everyone else? I think we must be one of the quietest post natal clubs of recent times!! Nearly 6 months and no new thread required!!

no going back to work here - definitely not at this stage - possibly when the two girls are in school... dd1 has therapy and playgroup and other things that would make it difficult for her to attend childcare so I would have to go down the nanny path and it seems silly to pay someone to do what I can do anyway. Childcare is very expensive here in Australia. I was trying to get someone to take care of dd2 whilst I took dd1 to therapy and her sn playgroup and it would cost me over 100 dollars a week for five hours care. It is over 60 dollars for three hours care!!! So dd2 is just being dragged along poor thing...

Dd2 is really really developing a personality. SHe loves dd1 and everything she does is hilarious. She is rolling over to front and back, hates laying down now - wants to be up and seeing what is going on. She is also pushing herself up with her arms.

Don't go to clinic so don't know what she weighs - just get her checked when she has her jabs. WIll probably take her to clinic once a month to get her weighed after this just for my curiosity. She feels heavy and looks sooo long.

Have posted a pic on the Members profile topic under eidsvolds dd2 - not the best but she looks cute.

Had a big week this week - dh went to the doc for a checkup and we learnt he had a congenital heart defect and another defect. what a shock. He will need surgery in the distant future and medication for the rest of his life. Very scary as he has always been so active ( Not allowed to now!!), healthy and well. Anyway we survived the scare of whether he would need surgery in the near future.

Oh well life - what a journey!!