April 2007 - Dippy's mum may be Gordon Brown, but at least her babies can't get man-colds

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just for you my lovely

Morning all! Everyone absolutely and completely stuffed full of cold here - yuk, not nice. Apart from that, all ok - it is sunny and rainy here so there might be a rainbow soon - I like rainbows & so does DD2, so she will be very pleased.

Have a friend and her 4 week old DS coming round for BIG hot chocolates in a mo'. I feel we both deserve them.

I will probably get gunned down, but my advice on the night sleep thing is to leave them ...... I know how hard it is and how that is easier said than done; but just leave them to it - Getting up in the night just becomes an ingrained habit in the end - a habit that needs to be broken imho - I know it is A LOT harder when you have older siblings, especially ones that don't sleep v.heavily - but that is just my opnion ..... We've been leaving P recently when she wakes up at 5am and for the last 3 mornings, it has been more like 6.30 / 7am ... don't know if that is because of leaving her to it or her cold or a combo or the two; but it is nice indeed.

Morning all.

Liath, bonny Scotland sounds lovely weather wise ! Hate to say it, but it is beautiful and sunny here today.

Elkie enjoy your MN meet up.

Sorry to those who have had crap nights.

I am somewhat in the Dippy camp and tend to leave B and K, unless of course they are crying hard. K was awake last night, sort of moaning and chatting. I didn't go in to her, as normally if I do, she gets so excited to see me, which tends to wake her up more iyswim, and 5 mins later noise had stopped and she had dropped off again. I do appreciate though that if they are sobbing or yelling for you, it is a different matter.

K is stuffed up with a cold still and a horrid chesty cough poor lamb. Doesn't seem bothered though.

Need to head as angel baby has woken up!

xx

Have been researching the ole controlled crying and I think wee Charlie is gonna be in for a shock tonight...Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Have been researching the ole controlled crying and I think wee Charlie is gonna be in for a shock tonight...Ha ha ha ha ha ha

ooops..

Morning all

Sorry to all those suffering with the bad nights.
I also agree with SOL and Dippy I tend to leave Izzy at night unless she is really screaming, she generally settles herself within a few minutes!

GMM - Be thinking of you and C tonight. Hope it goes ok.

Dippy enjoy the hot chocolate...mmmmmm
Sorry you won't be able to come to the SE meet up, I totally understand why though, but you will be missed.

Ellie - How is J today?

I do always leave t for a few minutes (mainly because I'm too lazy to drag my bum out of bed ) but after that he's definitely moved on to the "come and get me" cries, which would wake us both up
Think I'll give it a few more days then think about cc

I think dp is gonna have to sleep downstairs for a few days... I always -drag my arse- hop out of bed cos dp needs to get some sleep to go to work. OI feel guilty letting him cry as we are both wide awake listening to him.

Plus I don't mind getting up for a feed in the night if he needs it, or two, but three??? Plus the major problem is that he can't settle afterwards, but I have a feeling both are linked
gmm I know what you mean about lying awake listening to them cry

Phew - I do love you guys - I'm sure if I'd said that elsewhere on MN I'd be shot down in flmaes!! Totally understand about DP / DHs needing sleep for work & how hard it is litening to them cry.

For sure, it is not easy. I just think as they get a bit older, they start to wrap us around their gorgeous fingers! Cheeky monkeys!

Good luck with the cc GMM. It may not work straight off, but ime wth B, it worked a treat.

[sol scuttles off before being hounded out of her house!]

why are you being hounded out sol?
Well, still sat here in the polar bear suit, is it worth me showering and getting dressed?

For my opinions on cc. I know lots are anti.

Well I would much rather not do cc. I'll have to see - if he is becoming used to waking up when he doesn't actually need to I'll need to do something

The thing about cc is that it isn't nice but it really does work if done right. My feelings are that I am a much better mother if I'm not on my knees with exhaustion. If I'm tired I get snappy and have to my shame once or twice smacked dd for something fairly trivial, and IMHO that's a lot less nice than cc.

Anyway, I tend to ignore ds ynless he's crying properly but once he's eating more solids and not ill and DH isn't on nights (so that'll be 2009...) I'd potentially use it to try and wean him off the night feeds.

come on I really need help - and this time its not dts!!!!! or really ds1

well last night J woke at 10.15pm then 5am and back to bed to sleep both times. E woke at 1am, fed and back to bed then I had to get the little buggers up at 7.30am. So I feel like I have had loads

10.15pm, 1am, 5am then up at 7.30am - which for us is fantastic

Hello! Been crazy busy at work so no time to catch up except I've seen that a few of us are suffering and yes, GMM, I do think it makes it seem a bit easier knowing others are going through it. Maybe because we are reassured that it's NORMAL and we are not atrocious mothers

We have contemplated cc but I'm not sure, I mean he really REALLY screams, not just whimper, whimper, moan, you know? N has actually slept 7pm-7am the last few nights, with only about - ooh - 3 wakings in between before he was waking that many times (or more) and up for the day at 5.30-6am so the fact it's pushed back to after 7am has to be a good thing, right?

Except last night he would NOT settle after his feeds, which is very unusual. I got up at 1am, fed, put back down, he screamed, I picked him up, repeated. In the end I lay on the sofa with him and conked out for 2 hours! woke up at 3am, put him in bed, he woke and cried, dh got up, settled, put down, cried etc etc. In the end HE also fell asleep on the sofa with him for an hour or so.

This is new. This is wanting cuddles and to sleep on someone NOT wanting a feed. I think cc may come into play soon...

maveta that's the problem I'm having!!
sorry you are suffering too

6 month old won't settle

not read anything yet, just to say that Joe was awake every 2 hours from going to bed at 6pm last night
damn this psychic thing they all have

Won't be doing cc here, I know he sleeps well, and I know he must have reasons to be waking, the illness and cough aren't helping. If it continued for months and I knew that there was no other reason for it, then I would do it, I did with Matthew because I knew he could sleep through, and that there was no other reason for it, so was willing to try it. Joe isn't just crying, he's really distressed, and I am no way gonna listen to that!

Hi Ellie, sorry you had a bad night too

I agree that cc should only be used if you are pretty sure there is nothing wrong or that they don't need a feed. All babies are different some still need 1,2 or maybe more feeds during the night.

Go to tell somebody this and no-one else is answering their phones.

You all know the stress I had last week with Izzy's weight gain. When I got back from HV last week I weighed her on our scales and there were an ounce different to hv ones, well I have just weighed her again today and allowing for the difference, she has put on a whole pound the dream feeds and all that food I've been shoveling into her has obviously made a difference
Now I know it's an unprecise science but it looks better. I'm sooo pleased I didn't listen to the tosser GP

fab news Ange

you never rang me!

Rang you??