March 2007 - where the babies all get feisty and we "make rods for our own backs" or develop arms like a trucker!

[Mossy]

Couldn't help it!

yes, Foxy... I would love to meet up during half term.

Forgot to add that my wee girl started crawling last night!! To say she "took off" would be an understatement - but she had a look of determination as she coordinated her hands and her knees .

exam is part of ou degree-am having a year off now, thank goodness- mind really gone-forgot ruler-not so bad- but realised had forgot calculator for the finnace part-had to blag the ratios

baby has horrid cold and wheezy chest. he is sweating a bit as well. he is sleeping but KNOW he will wake up again.

am watching le crunch

Me too Sponge, alongside making long MN posts... this one not included.

Dolly, loved grout face. I have an image... Am home alone tonight as DP out with long=lost mate from uni, and it's brilliant. I wish he'd go out more often - bet there's not too many women who say that about their OHs!

Evening

Have spent the day on a quest to find an identical cuddly toy to the one DS already has so that he can have one at nursery too. Of course, mothercare have discontinued them so had to go to three different stores but finally found them! Felt ridiculously pleased with myself

Have spent evening furiously ironing on labels onto every item of clothing Elliot owns. So he is ready and that is 9/10ths of the battle I reckon. Thanks very much for the advice foxy and dolly - pmsl at grout face Hope work wasn't too bad for you today.

Kiwi - when do you have to make a final decision about work? Could you maybe do some supply teaching every now and then if you fancy it? Not sure how feasible that would be.

Why are our babies waking up so much at the moment? Elliot is wailing again too now. Better go ...

Hope we all have better nights

sorry to hear babes and others are not well. Exhaustion reigns in the eidsvold household, dh and I are still trying to catch up sleep from last week when we had the storm and he was out til all hours and I could not sleep. Then friday night could not sleep again added to dd3 being sooky. Yesterday out for a training day and then home to get ready and head out to 21st party. I cheated and bought a new black dress rather than try and sew a 1920's outfit - time just rant out. Party was fab although dd3 would not settle to sleep - too many people and too much stuff going on. She finally dozed off when it was time to leave.

Once home though dd3 wanted to sleep with dh and I - I fed her at midnight and put her in her cot - she screamed the house down until I got he, put her in bed, fed her and must have fallen asleep - only to wake in fright wondering where dd3 was - right between dh and I. So I put her to bed again - screaming starts all over again. Not a good night.

I did have a strange dream the other day though - early morning remember thinking whilst slowly waking up - right I am organised for my training day in London - then slight panic as I had no idea where it was, felt better when I reassured myself I could call colleague and find out where it was. Then I could organise train and tube.

At that point, dd2 woke me up - I looked at her as if to say who are you, then said I needed to call X ( colleague) about training in London. DH just burst out laughing and I realised I had been dreaming!!! very very strange.

Piffle - I saw on another thread that you're looking for some peek-a-blocks. I've been collecting these for Toby and have got quite a few duplicate ones I'll be looking to sell soon (was going to Ebay them, but just as happy to sell here). How many are you after? I've got about 20 here, plus probably a few more as there are some at my parents' house at the moment which I'll bring back next weekend.

Hi everyone

Im feeling a little unliked and sad at the moment.
Recently I have noticed the other mums in the baby group making arrangements to meet without me,never mentioned them to me but will openly talk about them in front of me.Like all putting money in for a childs birthday present to get something bigger between them or going to the Baby Show together.
I created a Facebook group for the baby group specially so we could keep in contact with events and organising things.
Well last night I discovered that one of them has created another group and its for arranging their social lives and Im the only one not invited.
So Im now hurt and wondering what I ahve done wrong.I have mailed the person I feel closest to there to tell her how I feel but not heard back from her yet.Its really making me feel I dont want to go to the group anymore and its all unfair on Deanna as she has made friends there.
Well just wanted to vent...please nobdy mentino this on Facebook as they are all on there.
Hope everyone else is okay...talk soon

Shanks
Do you like these women when you go to the group?
Have they known each other for quite a while?

God I hate cliquey groups and I know what you're gong through.
You could give it a little while and see if things improve.

Sometimes it takes a really long time to be 'included' into an established group. How about suggesting going for a coffee or something with the mum you like?
Or how aboutfinding another group. Trust me Deanna won't notice the difference!!!!

Shanks I bet they don't even know they are doing it! If they wanted to exclude you they wouldn't discuss it when you are there. Next time, why don't you say "ooh,can I join in?" or "I'd ike to get a it more involved I feel a bit estranged from you all at the moment"

A Mum in DS1's class said that - she's a bit stand offish (not suggesting you are) and so no one really talks to her. So she had to atually say "I feel a bit estranged from all the other Mum's". I always make an effort to talk to her now - although to be honest she's a bit of a snobby cow LOL!!

Seriously I bet they haven't even thought about it and you need to push yourself back in there a bit?

Eids/Scarey/Piffle - Monti keeps waking every hour and I have tried a bit of controlled crying - me lying with pursed lips in bed with my back to him. Him kicking me and crying. It lasts about 5 minutes, then he drops off to sleep and I don't hear from him for about 4 hours. Its quite hard but I am knackered and I know he is not hungry, but just wants my boob in his mouth constantly and can't do it.

Kitty are you still up for a meet up in Brighton on 24 October? Is anyone else up for it apart from Kiwi and I? It would be brilliant to meet everyone and all the babies at last. Piff, I can give you a lift if you want I would have 3 spare seats.

yeah, Shanks I agree they probably don't realise. I would definately try other groups. Cast your net wide. It's murphys law that once you are busy elsewhere they will start including you!
Be kind to yourself and arrange to spend time with people you are sure of if you are feeling a bit vulnerable at the moment which is totally understandable, you are bound to be a bit hormonal!

I should be screaming and jumping up and down at the take that concert tonight but I gave up my ticket because I wasn't ready to leave Hasan for an evening and anyway I've got a sore throat and headache but Oh boy I am feeling dull at the moment. dull, dull, dull, dull........

Rosy darling you could never be dull . I am glad you are here rather than at take that. They are now men in their 30s, with partners and kids. And paunches. Not the objexts of lust they once were. I am obviously as gorgeous as I was in my twenties

Shanks, I agree with Foxy that if people want to exclude you they tend to do it behind your back! They would not talk about events etc in your hearing - people don't work like that. I agree that you have to be proactive, or even pushy, and collar the mum you know or like best. Ask her for coffee / lunch / play at yours one day and see what she says. I often wondered if I was on the edge of my mummy group at the start with DD1 but I know now that everyone was feeling a bit unsettled after giving birth and coping with a newborn. With DD2 I am brazen - I have made 5 new friends since DD2 and all because I have been a bit pushy. Ok, very pushy. The worst that can happen is you feel a bit embarrassed and that soon passes. If you are rebuffed, try someone else. Foxy is right, as ever - Deanna won't notice the difference. IME babies are about 2 before they start asking for partcicular friends. Til then, DD1 had to like who i liked.

Something of breakthrough here. DD1 is sleeping in her cot for the first time in a week! I am in the hall on the laptop, but it's a step up from having her in my bed where she has been for the last 7 nights since back from holidays! Result!

Sazzy I know you are back to work tomorrow and am going to text you in a minute.

Good to see you Kitty - it's been ages that our paths have crossed. Hope all is well with you and yours!

Hello everyone else, hope all well.

Diva must be getting married next weekend. I remember as it's my wedding anniv then. Is she ever coming back?> I miss her . I am not brave enough to do Facebook.

Off to my mum tomorrow. See you in the morning XXXX

Hi Dolly (waves)

Fuck me (excuse language) had ds1's 9th birthday party today, shared with one of his mates 25+ boys aged 7 to 10, climbing the bloody WALLS literally. I've had big drinks tonight .

Foxy. of course i'm up for it! I've got loads of room here for anyone who wants to sleep over ( now i've got no bloody au pair!). The only rule is that if you stay you have to have a drink

hiya, only skimmed the thread, sorry

Shanks - big hugs

Kitty & Foxy - alas I am away for half term so can't join you in Brighton

Not much to report here. Looked at houses on Saturday. DS fell in the pond at house no 2.
MIL arrives Tues for 2 weeks

I received a mail back from the mum Im closest to and it was a nice long one.She told me that she doesnt think any of it is intentional and maybe I was just forgotten to be added to the group
Its harder for us as all the other mums were there a couple of months before we joined so we are the newbies.Their little clique was already established.
Anyway she asked if I wanted to meet up over the park tomorrow so I guess we will talk about it more then but I feel happier now knowing that one of them knows how I feel.

That's great news shanks

The blonde, must admit I'd be covering up a pond if I had one, even though they are nice, far too risky for little ones I reckon.

Kitty I would love to come for a piss up! Ooh and I'd love to be off to Divas wedding next week too! Oh well.

Dolly come on facebook, it's not scarey! It's fun! You can throw sheep at Diva and nag her to come back to mumsnet like a few of us are doing!

Bertie has a terrible cold at the moment so I only ever get odd snatches of time here and there, enough to post a tiny comment but not enough to properly catch up.

Shanks I'm really glad you got everything sorted out at the playgroup and that it wasn't intentional.

Kitty you must be knackered from the birthday party ... are you hungover as well then ?

Dolly yes I think Diva will come back after her wedding she is currently on FB ranting on all the Claire Verity threads after all that saying she wasn't going to come on here to get wound up by ranty threads!! Yes it is her wedding next Saturday, me and Bertie are going, looking forward to it!!

Foxy I pmsl at your idea of controlled crying, it's hardly the same as that leaving them in a dark room for five, ten, fifteen minutes and so on, is it? Once Bertie's cold is over I am tempted to try that with him. Did try him in a cot but it was spectacularly unsuccessful!!

Eids do you have a photo of the dress then?

Piffle let me know how you get on with the close baby carrier, I have made a wrap but it is a bit tricky so might consider asking for it for xmas prezzie, depends how big Bertie gets (is still titchy atm bless him)!

Sazzy good luck in work... what is it you work as btw? [nosy emoticon] I always imagine you as some kind of big shot city type!!!!

Bugger gotta go hello and goodbye to everyone I've missed (sorry bella, sponge, lunar, evenhope, everyone else too) will try to come back asap and catch up properly.....

Well things are still going on with the baby group.
Now the creator of that new facebook group has made it all invisible so I cant get into it to request to join or see it.
So I messaged her and said that I knew there was a group and just wondered why I hadnt been invited yet.
Will also have a good chat with the other mum this afternoon about it all/

Hiya
Shanks - it deffo sounds as though that Mum wants to be friends with you - sonds like she feels a bit left out to and would lke an ally. They may have had another reason to hide their Group on the internet - maybe just for anonymity ?

Mossy - Well it took a lot of control on my part ot to turn round, cuddle Monti an latch hime on LOL!! It has WORKED though - he is now sleeping for 4 hour slots - whereas he'd ben waking me hourly for weeks and weeks. And now when he waked he as a good feed. If he oesn'tdrink, I take him off and plonk him back to bed {assertive looking emoticon}.

He's getting everso cheeky - when I put his wooly hat on he pulls it off and throws it as far as he can

I miss Diva

So here we go

Wed 24 Oct Brighton met up:

Kitty
Kiwi
Foxy

Roll up Roll up!! Any more taker

Rosy I agree with Dolly you could never be dull

Dolly R U on for 24th?

well a crap day here - coming home this afternoon - gone to walk down the back garden whilst carrying dd3 - gone over on my ankle off the side of the path, fallen in a heap and dropped dd3 on the side of her head.

Poor dd3 she was screaming - covered in scratches and with two bumps fast appearing on her head, me crying cause she is hurt and cause I hurt myself and the other dds just looking at me.

Took her off to a and e - because dd3 then went all silent after a short cry - had me worried.

checked out all over - told to monitor her for up to 6 hours after it happened - the third degree from two nurses and three doctors as to how it happened etc.

Finally they said they were happy with her - at this stage she is laughing and chatting and so on - no trace - other than her bruises/lump that anything has happened.

Boy it gave me a fright - I just went down in a heap onto my shoulder which caused dd3 to be banged out of my arms and there was nothing I could to to stop it. I have a sore arm where I fell and a sore ankle.

Good news - she has her first tooth!!

glad to hear you got to the bottom of the playgroup situation shanks.

Mossy - we did not take her camera and despite a roving photographer - I think I missed out. It was a georgette stretchy sort of fabric - twists crossover style across the bust empire line there, then fell slightly aline to mid calf. Had shiny seqinned hghlighted straps - low v neck. Description does not do it justice but it looked good.

Shanks - i no how you feel but persevere and you will get to the bottom of it though i hope itis all a misunderstanding. i always feel alienated here as i live on an army camp and everyone is already in htere little clicks and once they have a click every one out of it is a threat! i guess that i am probably stand offish aswell but then i do not have much spare time as the stay at home mums as i get bored being stuck in. once work is finished at 2 i pick up little man, go home get changed let dogs out and then tootle to the gym. when i get home i have a bath, sort out little mans tea then mine and we settle for the evening. i am off to see a mate after training though as her son was born three days before me, even though he has teeth already!!! oh and i am on facebook too!

Eids, poor you What a horrible shock for you both. babies are mighty bouncey things though.
It must have been very annoying to be so closely questioned by the hospital. I know they're only doing their jobs, but it still makes you cross, doesn't it? Hope you are both feeling better now.

Bethoo you go to the gym?

I like the way you talk about "the little man" - it sweet. DS1 used to call Monti, "the little fella"

Eids that must have been so scarey when she went all quiet. Kitty is right though - babies are very resilient and have soft bones too I'm sure she will be alright and [hugs] to you

I have period pains!! Haven't had a visit from AF for over 16 months now an I had forgotten how crappy periods make you feel)

BLLUUUUEEUGGHHH!!

better have another baby quick then foxy

I have period pains too. It's bloody annoying isn't it? I am using my mooncup for the first time too and am struggling a bit with it. It is very uncomfortable (verging on painful) to take it out - I think I'm doing something wrong.

I'm glad you have had a nice reply from the other mum shanks - it's really horrible to feel excluded isn't it? Perhaps you should just ditch the rest of them and hang out with the nice one.

Ooh eids - your poor thing. Sounds like you both are a bit bashed and shaken up. Sure she will be fine and make sure you look after yourself too.

Elliot had his first proper day at nursery today and it went pretty well - he had 3 good naps and drank all his milk. Didn't eat any lunch though which I was slightly pleased about as I can never get 3 meals down him and so it's quite reassuring to know it's not just me! He slept at my friend's house yesterday in her DD's cot without a dummy and was so knackered last night he fell asleep without it. And he slept right through!!! So that's been ditched - it's obviously been waking him up rather than helping him sleep. And one less thing to worry about.

No teeth, no rolling over, no crawling But he can say mamamamama. So I'm happy!