March 2007 - where the babies all get feisty and we "make rods for our own backs" or develop arms like a trucker!

[Mossy]

Couldn't help it!

Bethoo, it could be teething or it could be habit. It isn't always obvious with teething.
And its not how old you are (30 is really young compared ot some of us!)that's important. Important is that you are happy..... hmmm, must say I have been looking at myself throuhg the eyes of others recently though and I feel like a slightly overweight, shabby middle aged housewife !!

Bethoo - 30 is so young!!

Leo - oh dear - I bet they wae each othr up too, wth the crying, don't they? I have similar issues wth Monti, but ot in stereo like you!!

Nice to hear how they are doing though!!

Rosy - PMSL!!! I don't have speakers so watched it slently - ROFL at the "a day in the life of an Irish woman"!!! Will watch at work tomorrow so I can hear it too!!

Ooops- keep losing letters on my keyboard

HI All! Bethoo 30 is young! your ex's new bird may be 25 but 5 years? theres nowt between it- as my old gran would hav said.

Mornin all!

morning to you...
gawd here we back to 2 hrly feeding Think Finn might have the kids bug but a milder version

dd was going back to school today but has got really bad headache am v worried about her - her temp has gone but she is very lethargic and tired.

Have had to carry Finn all day yesterday as he has been so clingy, my back is soooooooo sore... I have a Coorie sling but rather than sit nestled in it he fought so had to have 2 hands all the time
consequently we did not get dinner til 9 and the house is a tip...
Oh well c'est la vie
I am now researching hands free slings...

Fox, Toby wakes Leo up because he is louder and Leo is more sensitive. Toby is the worst sleeper so very often they are in stereo and these babies are getting LOUD!

Piffle, is she dehydrated? Get some soup and a sweet drink down her. If she doesn't improve take her to a doctor.

Yes I was going to say is she dehydrated too. poor mite, I hope she is back to full health soon.

Leolady - been up since 4 as he just whinges and he felt hot to the touch on his head. he just seemed not to be able to get comfortable, seemed very restless, he even refused the boob once! he is ok this morning but i am starting to get tired again as i am working now so cant lie in and compensate!!! shame i cant sleep at my desk!!!

hope dd improves piffle

these poorly babies make life doubly hard don't they... feel for all of you back at work who won't get chance for a cat nap.

gave dd some nurofen and she has perked up and eaten well today, a trip to the shops (we had to get milk and bread) wiped her out though.
Think she is off til Monday....I think as she has been watching a lot of tv... and she has not had her glasses on, that could have caused the headache maybe?
She has been drinking loads of water, she is the model patient

Aww - your poor DD piffle. Hope she perks up over the weekend. We are still trailing snot here but E is very perky considering how many times he wakes (me) up in the night with his hacking cough.

Leo - nice to hear from you I don't just look like a shabby slightly overweight middle-aged housewife, I am one!

I am worried about trying to look a bit tidy when I go back to work on Monday. Anyone got any good tips about getting out the door? I'm planning on not changing his top in the morning so just nappy and some joggers, getting all my clothes ready and showering the night before and possibly leaving breakfast until I get to work. Any other ideas? Luckily they will give him breakfast at nursery so I don't have to stand around while he smears himself in food, just give him his bottle when he wakes up

Hi everyone, hope the sickly kiddies and babies get better soon
We have an eczema flare up here and croup

found you all... so much to catch up on though. am still bf but he isn;t really bothered- wants proper food first then turns to me. i mix lumpy boiled veg into his baby food, which he loves, fingers crossed. still wakes up in the night though.

i read that af comes back when bf goes down, but no sign yet. apart from mood swings, obviously. have an exam 2moro so leaving him with dh for first time for longer than 20 mins. have to express which have only done once before-disaster looms... also he hates teacher beakers etc, and insists on cup so have vision of milk everywhere.

i also have a rod for my own back, ie picking him up when he cries (total strangers tell me off!) and going to him in the night, playing with him am with you rosy, just go with the flow. sorry about your dh btw.
must go as should be revising/ expressing/ eating chocolate/ doing callanetics/ sending wedding pics to mil ... does getting married count as a rod for my own back as well

Hello girls

Having a nightmare here. DD1 won't sleep in own bed, climbs out of cot, spends day being generally naughty and then we spend half the night trying to get her into her own bed. Am shattered. She has slept in her own bed for a total of about 4 hours since we got back on Sat. Am at my wits end. DD2 is an absolute joy of course, smiling and gurgling at the world and trying to crawl. She can sit quite well now and seems to be enjoying the odd bits of puree which come her way.

I know DD1 is going through a phase but it's getting me down. And I have to work tomoprrrow when I am shattered. Still, at least it means that DH will be at the helm rather than me. I finish at 3.30 but will spend a couple of hours hiding at work, sorry I mean planning for the next session .

Sorry for all the moaning. Hope the poorly ones are on the mend XXXX

DS is waking in the night every night now. It started when he was ill and some nights I think it's his teeth, once or twice hunger, but last night I don't think it was anything apart from habit. Trouble is, I have to feed him to get him back to sleep and I'm worrying he's getting used to this. As he had slept all through the night for quite a while before teething really kicked in a few months ago, do you think it might be he's not getting enough food in the day, or have I just got to tough it out for a night or two and let him cry - no easy feat when DP says things like (and I quote), "ffs feed him so I can get some sleep" - so HE can get some sleep???? Last night I picked DS up and went for a wander to the kitchen and he was quiet for ages, which made me think it probably wasn't real hunger which had woken him as he would have carried on crying. He's always much better in the day if he has an uninterrupted night, hence my not completely selfish desire to get him going through again. Or do you think he'll sleep through again when he's ready?

Sponge, nice to hear from you, was just wondering yesterday where you had got to. Exams - you're a brave woman. As I'm having difficulty remembering words like launderette atm - I said supermarket instead yesterday, is it early onset alzheimer's or late onset motherhood - you're in another league! What's it on?

Is Diva actually never coming back to MN then? Does anyone know?

Ladies just a quick one as I've woken up with sore wrists again, still happens from time to time although not carpal tunnel sore.

Piffle hope your dd improves soon, how is she today?

Spongecake now getting married is making a rod for your own back!!

Callie Diva is coming back after she is married I think... although might come back for her hen night. She is on FB though.

Better go Bertie wailing and I need to get dressed too...

morning all

hope your wrists improve mossy

good luck with exam sponge

piff - hope dd improves - too much tv could defo give them headache if they're not feeling well for starters - sort of thing my ds1 gets when he's off school (he is top telly addict!)

Callie - no advice really about Jordi's sleeping patterns... only sympathy that you're in the same boat as me (and mossy, rosy, foxy etc etc...)

The few times I try to let Samuel cry it out in the past he does tremendous vomiting (after an hour or so of crying!!) so I have given up totally on that method and although he still wakes loads - we're both far happier now I'm just going with the flow.

sore wrists mossy?
from too much tirading on the pc or from (like me) supporting whapping weighty baps while breastfeeding round the clock

Sponge you did make me laugh, how many rods does one mother need then?

Sorry to hear babies are poorly, Finn is quite healthy, I gave calpol last night out of desperation after a long looooooooong read all day loong whinging, not sleeping session (hate giving babies meds) and bang 8 hours
Not so sure I hate giving babies meds anymore

And back to yesterday, relaly felt myself feeling some very bad feelings, he was unbearable, my back was cramped from carting him around, he would not sleep or be put down.
Then dp rung at 6.40pm to sday he was just leaving got home at 9...
Had dd in hysterics as daddy was not home at 7 like he promised.
Finn caterwauling while I'm conforting her

Sank into a deep glass of Baileys when I finally got them both to bed.

Have got the close baby carrier today as seen on Bringing up baby (I'm dragging mine up rather than bringing them up but hey) and it has all the advantage of a wrap, without the annoying part of typing and refolding every time.
Am liking it as he stays quiet and I can get things done

Oh yum I love Baileys

Quick hello to all - so many poorly and demanding babies

Monti won't go to sleep without my boob in his mouth - this is all of a sudden - cheeky monkey!!

Scarey - Handy hint No 1 - Do not, under any circumstances put your nice work clothes on until the very last minute - I guaruntee E will vomit on them as soon as he gets an opportunity!

I was going to post earlier but discussion has moved on.

Had a wonderful night Tuesday when DD first woke at 7am (from 11pm) but alas it was a one-off. Wednesday evening she went to sleep at 7.30 pm- most unlike her- and didn't stir when we went up to bed. Should have known.. up at 1am, 3am, 5am and at 6am when we rolled about the bed smiling and laughing for an hour. I was not amused. She then went back to sleep until 10.30am but wouldn't sleep at all for the rest of the day. Cue overtired whining and miserable baby by 3pm.

DH got arsey with me the other night when he spent the entire evening asleep on the settee, followed by his first day off this week tidying. He doesn't seem to get that ATM I don't have any "time off" and that there are things I need to be doing (paperwork/ bills/ setting up this CTF that I should have done 7 months ago/ emptying the airing cupboard/ having a bath) that I can't do with DD around. He has spent all day today playing bookworm on the downstairs PC..

Oh oor you Coven. Your Dh sounds like my DH. They seem to assume they can relax on their day off - hey when do we get a day off???

Laidback - have posted on your "squished nip" thread - how are you and have you healed up yet?

Sazzy - have everything ready for the next day. Teabag in cup, all your work clothes laid out, E's bag packed and slung ove buggy, shoes by front door. As foxy says, dress at last minute. I'd do everything in a bra nad knicks until you are ready to go then once E in buggy with a toy, stick suit on and run for it. I do the American thing of wearing trainers to and from, with the slut shoes under the desk. Makes it easier to sprint to nursery before I get fined .

Do the minimum necessary to get E out of the front door. Joggers are a great idea. I'd go as early as possible, to minimise rush hour travelling and get my seat. Savour the (relative) peace on the tube - read book, enjoy ipod etc. Grout face at desk to save time leaving house.

Hello veryone else - hope all well. going to iron clothes for tomorrow. Am having to wear smart jeans as my velvet suit is WAY too small. Oh dear. Better sit behind the desk rather than on it. I'll look like a newsreader.

Dolly! "Grout face at desk" ? PMSL!!!

R U working Saturday then?

So who is still up for Brighton meetup on 24 Oct??? We need to ge ourselves in gear Grrrls...

I know that feeling Evenhope!! Even though my dh can be great - I do feel resentful when I am up with the baby during the night and listening to his snoring. We both have work in the morning!!

I don't have any more advice to add Sazzy. Like you, Kate gets her breakfast at nursery so I don't bother. She shares my cereal as I shove it down my throat.

The hardest thing I have found is having time to spend with her in the mornings. It was great back when she woke early and I enjoyed getting up. Nowadays, she is waking several times a night, I'm waking about 7 / 7:30 / and even 8 which is just a throw on clothes and get out the door.

I'm having a crisis - I had decided to give up work after two days off sick but once I got back today I wasn't so sure. Will I miss it as much as I think?????

Sorry to read that there are so many poorly babies and people have real life decisions to make. Hope things are getting easier.

Have a great weekend everyone.