August/ September 2019 babies #2

[kyles101]

Thread number 2 for our August / September 2019 due date babies.

DS is having a regression on nighttime sleep since moving over to combi - seems to want to wale at 1am whereas before would always go through until 3am...

@db92 good luck with the weaning, hopefully it helps the reflux. What spoon will you use?

I just tried our first weaning session. Arthur didn't pick up any of the food and pursed his lips when I had the spoon there. So that went well . Maybe that's a big sign he just isn't ready or interested

Ah @dustydoorframes that's rotten luck. Hope you miss out on it this time. Just spritz everyone with antibac if they approach you.

@db92 very impressed you managed to see a pediatrician for the reflux! I think because DS has gained weight well, no-one is that interested. So we just wander round all day drenched in puke! Which is now spiked with carrot....

Very little interest in rolling here. He can do tummy to back but really isn't bothered. Quite happy to lie on his back or tummy as long as he can see someone. And LOVES the jumperoo so wants to be upright all the time. He is reliably sitting now, so that's good, but it seems to force puke out. It's a double edged sword really.

@horehound we have a pack of the tommee tippee weaning spoons I made the mistake of picking up the 7month+ ones and E refused to take it. I went back and got the 4 month pack which are much softer/ bendier and he's been taking it fine. We had started a few tasters here and there last week

@stroan E is gaining weight steadily too but did take a dip a few weeks back. To be honest I think the only reason why they wanted to see us was the CMPA and reflux combined.
We have the same issue with sitting. All he wants to do is sit up right (or stand) but it causes more sick. Ive been looking into jumperoos! Putting off having something so big permanently in the living room though 🙈

I'm not too bothered about the rolling yet. Like others have said, it'll be more stressful when he starts!

@db92 it does fold up or you can get space saver ones. It gets me a good 15 mins to eat lunch so I'm giving up the corner of my living room. It's only for a few months really (cannot wait to sell it!)

@db92 I trip over our jumperoo hourly! I was dead set against having one until a friend offloaded her old one to me by sneaking it into the boot of my car, DD1 loved it and it does make making lunch/tea etc. a lot easier!!

@Stroan I've started spoon feeding avalon at 22 weeks hah. I have considered the evidence and decided this is perfectly fine and healthy. She will move on to finger foods when she is ready. People act like spoon feeding is force feeding. Crazy.

We have a junmperoo too and Arthur loves it and I like it as is gives me some time to get stuff done. I don't think it folds up small though so is a lot of toy to take up a room. Luckily our living room is pretty spacious.

Argh for the last few nights Arthur has been waking hourly. Even sometimes I'll wake up to hear him in his cot and he's just playing with the bars wide awake. What's going on? I'm not coping with the lack of sleep. I feel really unwell!

@horehound snap. I'm so grumpy about it this morning. Up all night, then wide awake for the day at 5.30. husband slept in the spare room, so I'm grumpy with him too. Plus, DS is then frantic and tired right in time for the nursery run so getting out of the house is horrible.

I don't know what to try, but also don't have any energy to try anything! I just try to nap when I can but we have visitors today so it'll be Saturday before I get the chance.

Triple snap! DS has been lasting until 1 and then it starts. Last night he made it to 3 and then the hourly wake ups started. I have him in the bed with me but his arms are thrashing about and I keep getting smacked in the face! Absolutely no idea what's going on!! He's 6 months on Saturday and I have. Had. Enough. I know it will pass but I'm back to work next month and I just feel like time is running out! We also have my SIL and her husband staying from tonight until Monday so feel like I can't just go and nap whenever. It's exhausting!! Solidarity ladies

Me 4 ladies! Killer isn't it. Like, why, just go back to sleep. I don't remember either of my dds doing this (I'm sure I would have remembered this). It's not so bad when he wakes then he goes back to sleep, can deal with that, but the refusing to sleep is a killer.

That's so strange they're all doing it.
Well I broke down last night had to go get my husband and I think he was shocked the state I was in. He went up to Arthur to get him to sleep then stayed up in the room with us both. I think he then realised how bad it was and when he left for work told me to call him if I want him home from work early. I said I'll get my mum but I've just woken to a message from her saying she has stuff to do :(
I have a very sore head, like my brain feels dehydrated actually. Last night I was wobbling on my feet felt like the floor was on a slope.
I messaged both my husband and my mum yesterday at different times saying I'm not coping and I just don't feel I get much support at all

Hope you all get some sort of sleep last night. Poor us.

@horehound I know you feel really awful but it's so positive that you've told your DH and Mum that you aren't coping. That's hard to say.

Is your HV helpful? I don't know that they can help much with sleep but might be worth a chat. And are you managing to eat and drink ok? When you aren't getting sleep, it somehow seems even more important to get everything else your body needs.

DH does lots in the house and with DD, but the result of that is that all the baby wrangling is down to me. He can't settle him at all, so even getting a quick bath is stressful. I'm supposed to have a night out at the end of this month and I'm not sure I'll make it. Plus, I'd rather sleep than go out!

I’m with you all too, what’s going on?!! I know what you mean @Stroan I hate the idea of doing anything that will just add to the tiredness even if it’s fun!! I wish there was a mum hotel where you can go and relax while someone plays with the babies and you could catch some sleep while someone paces around with them between feeds at night....

100000% @Stroan , my DH said something about a wee night out in April and I just looked at him 😒 @Geegrl19 My DD definitely didn't do this either, but looking back she never woke for more than one feed a night (even at the start) but she was a pre 5am riser so that wasn't particularly ideal either!

@stroan mmm she's ok but a bit "ach it'll be fine" type.
Really the sleep thing is the biggest thing. I'm absolutely fine if I have 5 or 6 hours even but this has taken its toll and so now any time Arthur takes ages to sleep or wakes as soon as he is put down I feel I'm just loosing the plot. I'm not angry to him but I'm angry inside.
I am making sure I eat, yes I realised everything is worse if I'm hangry!!
My husband is good with making us dinner and he plays with Arthur a lot but it's me who has to encourage him to take Arthur for a bath etc.
For weeks I've told him he needed to sort out all the clean washing in the utility as it had run away with me. He said he would do it. Still hadn't. Yesterday I dumped the lot on his bed.
Actually got done
But I'm just really frustrated with the change in Arthur's sleep because he was really very good before. I don't understand why he takes so long to fall asleep even jn my arms now and then wakes immediately when put down when he pings his eyes open ready to play. I don't know why he's waking so much in the night.
I just want two good night's sleep where my body wakes itself up rather than every single sleep cycle being interrupted.

I've just bought Lucy Wolfe "the baby sleep solution" and I'll start that shortly then I think we will have to try controlled crying
As much as I don't want to I think for all our sakes we need to. We're going to move his cot into his nursery this weekend too and start a proper routine. Not doing a bath though because I don't think it's good for their skin to be bathed daily so does anyone have any examples of a routine with no bath?

Oh and yes my husband did ask what I wanted to do this weekend . I'm like errr sleep.
He was suggesting taking him swimming I said ok you can.
I need a break! Maybe I'll get it now after my breakdown in the night.

God us 2 with the hourly wake ups , only 2 days in and it's killing me! I think we have a tooth nearly out so I'm really really hoping that's what it is and not a delayed regression.

@Horehound I think you need to try to make dh realise just how much you need a break. Mothering a grumpy babe is no fun at all. With naps, our turning point was putting him down in his cot awake rather than trying to put him down asleep - he'd just get distressed at waking bit where he'd gone to sleep. I think a routine can be as long or a short as you like - zipping into bag, singing a song or a story and kisses is a routine. I'd say keep it as small and uncomplicated as possible so that it is something that can always be done - eg if a bath (not that you want a bath to be part of it but it's a popular one with others) becomes part of the "routine" will it be a problem if you're away from home and can't have one? I'm rambling - sleep deprivation solidarity 😂

Yeh that makes sense @kyles101 so like dim the lights, read a book, zip in bag.
The only thing with putting him down awake is that he just starts crying so we always pick him up.
But! I managed to get him down at 11.30 he woke after 26 mins but I didn't pick him up I have played white noise and he fell back asleep after a few minutes.
Now mum has arrived so I've gone to bed in a different room...can't bloody sleep!
I think DH now knows I need a break. He has emailed me as well checking to see how I am so guess he is a bit worried for me. Mum is going to take Arthur tomorrow whilst I go for a facial so that will be nice.

@kyles101 hopefully it is just a tooth! Fingers crossed for you hehe

Yay for mum and dh. An email is excellent but he does need to follow through too. Mine can sometimes think he has done things to help just because he thought about it 🙄

Going back to sleep also excellent- we've always struggled with that in the daytime unless less he's being cuddled. What happens if you hush and stroke his cheek when you put him down? Does he have a dummy? You absolutely have to do what works for your family and look into the pros and cons. For me, it makes sense that if I go to him as soon as he cries then he should cry less. That's not to say I'd go straight to a nap fighting grizzle. It's so difficult to know what to do. You deffo need to be sharing out the load though, you can't do everything, no one can.

I managed 40 mins but better than nothing. Arthur actually slept for 2 hours and then mum took him out in the pram and he slept another 49 mins. Guess he needed it too.
Yes, I know what you mean about actual actions, let's see what happens tonight. I think I'm just going to go to bed when Arthur goes down at 7.30.
If I just shush him and pat him or hold hands he just starts kicking his legs and then the cries start. Basically he never ever sleeps on his back, he immediately rolls to his tummy and sometimes we can shuggle his bum and that sends him off! But if I put him down and he doesn't go to his side or tummy it's game over and he just cries on his back. He used to take a dummy but never since the 4month sleep regression

Right step one complete. Cot moved to nursery. Dh is going to sleep in the room with him for at least three nights to get him used to the change and he will bring him through for feeds. I'm also going to go to bed very shortly to sleep whilst Arthur sleeps

Sorry to hear you're having such a tough time @Horehound - definitely make sure you're looking after your self as well!!
Sorry to hear so many are having sleep problems 😔 We're not too bad but still swaddling, which I know we can't do forever, but when I tried stopping earlier in the week it was a disaster and the sleep deprivation made me go straight back to swaddling! Her eyes are still really sticky too so I figure not being able to rub them at night is probably good.

@Littlehouseinthebigcity thanks and I will, well I'm trying :) aw sorry about your wee ones eyes. That's a shame, hopefully they clear soon