Dec 06 - a new one for Indith and her rubbish dial up!

[weirdbird]

New thread for our incessant chatter!

thanks, guys, it helps to vent a liitle on this thread. I really don't feel like posting about it elsewhere IYKWIM.

fgs, sick pretty much sums up my feelings toward our schools too. When we moved here kids really weren't in the plans and we never thought we would stay past the 2 years needed to flip the house, sooo here we are

I can see the schools issue a whole new minefield of parenting jabber, have maile d you

nice to see you back (again) spina

magnolia, lurrrrvely photos, I love rl photos!

who's had issues with biting whilst feeding? It's really upsetting me, I'm dreading feeding and although I'm paying close attention now so I catch him before his does it (tho he got me just now) it means I don't find it a close, bonding thing anymore. Had no plans to give up before a year until now. Any advice?

AQ - I had biting with feeding. A few days after she cut her first tooth and then a few days after the 2nd. It REALLY hurts and I was tempted to give up feeding altogether.

I actually shouted in pain which led to tears etc. The thing that seemed to work was to take DD off the breast and sit her on the floor facing the opposite way from me. She would cry. I would leave her for a full minute. Then I would pick her up and we would snuggle and have a nice feed. About 48 hours later NO BITING.

Now.....for my breastfeeding drama.

As you know DD2 has been ill. She has gone from 3 feeds a day to about 7 and now back down to 4. However she seesm to think bedtime milk now involves a bit of a suck, then unlatch, then jump on mummy and bundle until nipple ends up in mouth. Cue lots of giggling from DD2, 1 and DH . I think she's probably not too peckish as we've had a late dinner the last couple of evenings but how do I get my snuggly bedtime back? She seems to like a long feed at 6am in the morning whereas DD1 always liked hers in the evening.

thanks, fgs. He grazed me a couple of times with first 2 teeth but didn't seem to realise it so I paid no mind. But tooth no.3 at the top and he's really nipping me. I haven't tried pushing his face in so he can't breathe trick yet nor the one you've had success with, I shall have to persevere. I've read they'll do it with each new tooth. Sigh. I'm a bit fed up as spent five and a half months struggling with it, and now it's horrible again.
I don't think you've lost snuggly bedtime thing, it is just late dinner - she's full! DS2 did same thing tonight, that's why he bit I suspect. And perhaps more snuggly without distraction of dd1 and dh? At this age, they're very distractible, I have to chuck people out of the room to get a decent feed with ds2!

Ds1 bites when he gets new teeth I spend a few days dreading it and contemplating giving up but then it stops again

thanks, magnolia. I don't want to give up and quite frankly I've got this far and formula would seem such a hassle at this point. I'll try again tomorrow. It's just he's had this tooth a week and he thinks it's funny to bite me!

thanks aq. Fwiw I think when they get new teeth they have to change the position and technique for the feed.

DD2 is much better today. Although she had a nosebleed this afternoon Very stressful week with her being ill. More so than I've ever had with DD1.

DD2 had some cow's milk from a cup this week. You are meant to wait until a year but there is no way she will take formula and I couldnt keep up with her demands (she wasnt eating). It's nice to know she'll have a bit although she doesnt drink much other than my breast milk tbh

Oh god, I'm dreading teeth now! Do they do rugby stylee gum shields for babies?

I also find that ds2 doesn't feed properly if there's anything else going on. I put him to bed after ds1 and dd so he has his bedtime feed in his bedroom, on our own. Even if he's really full he'll still snuggle for a minute or two then pull off and just want a cuddle.

Spina, great to see you, look forward to 2029 .

fgs, loads of people on here give their lo's cow's milk before 1 as a drink. Funny she'll have that but not formula but then I think formula tastes disgusting! DS2 not that keen but he'll just wait until I appear then scream for milk.
Hadn't thought about position or anything, might have a squiz on kelly's to see if there's anything.
Hope dd2 much better this week, fgs, I'd get a real surprise too if ds2 was v.ill as ds1 barely ever got sick (one ear infection apart) and still doesn't. He has my constitution [smug emoticon]

lol Oli, we've put you right off teeth!
They're so much more alert now, not surprising they can be easily distracted. DS2 is a little scanner now, he grabs something within a second of ds1 or I letting go. It was so nice seeing him laugh again properly today (as he's been a little unwell for a week or so) all the gp's were over and fussing over him - joy for a 9 month old.

Too right .

I do think the 8/9mo age is fab, they're so cheeky and cute and you can really see the beginnings of their personality coming through. And the way they're so proud of themselves when they do something, especially if it's a bit naughty [soppy ]. I love it.

I love this stage too. Ds2 just gets so excited and proud when he does something new.

someone told me yesterday that when hers bit she would hold their nose for a second. She said they have to let go that way and it makes them aware that it's a no-no. I did try it once with ds2 last night and he looked really surprised and stopped could have been just a one off tho.

Can any of you help me with this?

Sorry bp, I'm just a US girl.

sorry, bp, I've been there once!
This bf biting thing is really bringing me down, I haven't enjoyed a feed in a week now and try to put him off really. Made dp give him a bottle this arvo as I just didn't want to. I don't know if it's just the straw/camel's back as I'd been getting fairly sick of wearing the bras, not being able to eat/drink what I wanted and just having my top up all the time. Anyone else feel that they're not so much babies anymore - ds is not huge, but he's big enough to make it interesting just getting him into position, he still doesn't figure it out himself. Will I regret giving it up now, I had hoped to get to 12 months. I may find tomorrow than if I give him a bottle (maybe a cup would be less traumatic) I'll change my mind again! I haven't give him one for 3 months I think.

I feel that way sometimes, AQ. Did you try the holding the nose thing?

Drat, forgot to try that one. I get frazzled and immediately take him off! Must try that tomomrrow, thanks jabber.

Bp, I have never been there sorry.
AQ, It is such a difficult place to be, you dread feeding them so your tense and that makes feeding them harder than it should be
It sounds like it's not just the biting thats making you re think b/f and it's really ok if you want to stop. How old is he now?
Maybe carry on for a while longer and bypass the formula, maybe going on to cows milk slightly early?
My main reason for not giving up is that I know the minute I do I will regret it. If you think you will regret it then maybe you can find a way to carry on?

I am hating the nursing bras and am going to spend money on a good underwired one which doesn't make me feel like an old granny

Thanks, magnolia. I never expected that I would feed this long (he was 9 months this week) and didn't particularly want to. I only managed 9 weeks with ds1. He's already having formula at nursery twice a week and sometimes if dp's got him as I don't bother expressing anymore. If he was a bit older I'd think about cow's milk. I just can't seem to get back that 'lovin' feeling about it' and aside from the faff of bottles no brilliant reason to keep on. I wanted to get to six months for the obvious reasons and I did. I honestly don't know whether I'd regret it, I just feel hacked off with it at present but maybe that's because he's been feeding more than normal because of illness. I'd got him down to 3/4 a day but he seemed to need more whilst ill which I was happ to give. I do think that it is one reason - it's a very comforting thing for a baby, it seems. He fell asleep on me tonight which was sweet, but I was so tense about potential biting I didn't really enjoy it! I'll try the hints tomorrow, I guess I need to make more effort.

AQ, I think these feelings run in cycles. I know with ds2's sleeping that I go through phases of wanting to sort it once and for all then being fairly accepting of it. I think when the bad bits have been happening for quite a while it does wear you down and you just want to do something to resolve it. What about setting yourself a deadline, if you like - say, another week and if he's still biting then stop the bf? It sounds as though you want to keep going for a while longer from your last post so hanging on for a few more days might let it resolve itself. I hope so!

Is anyone else finding the wider MN a bit mad at the moment, and today especially? I usually spend a while lurking on active convos in the evening but it's all so acrimonious and fighty at the minute. I posted something very out of character earlier, nearly ended up in a row but fortunately ds2 woke up so I was forced away from the puter. It's like mass PMT out there and it's catching!

BP, never been to Ipswich so can't help, sorry.

Yep Oli, it's madness around MN tonight. I am staying well clear

Some of those MNers (cue scary music) absolutely terrify me! I'm such a wimp, a real avoider of conflict, so I can't see the point of starting a bunfight online!

AQ, you just do what feels right for you. Its always the right thing to do.

I've learnt to avoid MM threads. I won't get involved in stroppy threads either (usually). I'm not really that opinionated.

I've just been to A&E with dd1 she had an ear infection - and she has finally got anti-bios. Poor thing.

I've really dropped off even looking at active convos very often. I just don't want to spend time getting all upset on some thread. Can't believe that I used to do it at all but it is so easy to get sucked in on them, isn't it?

btw, have I told you guys lately how much I appreciate you?

Hi Guys,

AQ - you've done great with the feeding. Go on as long as you want but dont feel bad. Have you thought of going from breast to cup rather than bottle. I did with DD1 and so never had the 'getting off bottles issue'. DD2 is having the odd bit of cows milk now (in a cup with breakfast) and I am giving her 3 breastfeeds a day but if she doesnt buck her ideas up about the bedtime feeds then I'm going to switch that to a cup too. She has a 30 minute breastfeed in the morning and about 10 mins in the afternoon but just a few mins of playful guzzling in the evening.

I dont post anywhere else much at the moment. Although I am a flylady