Dec 06 - a new one for Indith and her rubbish dial up!

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New thread for our incessant chatter!

Oooh, really wanna be a flylady! How do you do it? I keep trying the sink thing, but I never do keep it up - and if I can't do that, how can I be a flylady?

Margo, hope DD1 is feeling better soon. The Antibiotics should kick in soon - it is miserable, though.

bp - come and join us [[http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/2430/385150#7835936 here] as there are some new people and some old flyladies who are starting again. Just join in.

The principle is you start of by having a shiny sink. It makes you proud but then you add 2 minute hotspots and then 5 minute declutters gradually. So, you tidy your house in small chunks which means you gradually declutter and then maintain it's tidiness. As opposed to blitzing it every month or so which can be soul destroying...

It has worked for me. I started when I was nesting with DD2 and by the time I went into labour my house was gleaming. Then I fell off the wagon and so have started the babysteps again.

I guess my sad secret is well and truly out now....

try again

margo, I missed the part about dd1 - hope she is feeling better soon.

FGS, I tried flylady once but the emails really overwhelmed me. Is there a way to do it without getting tons of emails every day?

Yes you can now get a 'daily digest' which means all of the emails are rolled into one at the e of the day. Also the thread on MN every day links to the main mission & zone so if you dont want to you dont need to subscribe.

FGS, I need to 'fly'. I end up doing a 6 hour mamoth clean every couple of weeks and it does my head in. Such a waste of time. We don't have much clutter because of moving but doing more than basic tidying & wiping over kitchen/loo is beyond me .

My name's Olihan and I am a slattern .

Margo, hope dd1 is feeling better, poor thing, ear infections are rotten.

Haven't been on here all day, has it calmed down at all out there?! Or will I hide on Dec06 all night?

Another slattern here

The idea of FLYing scares me though.

Hope you get your teeth problems sorted soon AQ. I've only hada couple of little grazes so far but there is a top tooth on the way which might change things!

BF is a strange thing really isn't it. I love it and do want to keep going for some time yet but sometimes I do just want to wear my old bras again and not have to worry about being there when ds decides all he wants is a bf etc etc. Saying that he seems to have started eating again today so hopefully the feeds will diminish and once he starts creche that will be a helping hand to reduce a bit.

I got very excited the other night, ds only woke once. Didn't continue though

Dp starts work tomorrow! Very exciting, does mean he is down South for the week though

Indith you could have summed up my feelings about breastfeeding. DD1 lasted 8.5 months DD2 is ow 9 months (today) and still having 3 feeds. Mainly because she doesnt want othe milk. Ilike it and feel constrained by it at the same time....

Go on, come fly with me....

PS.I'm not venturing out into the rest of MN at the moment....

Very admiring of the flyers. I tried the concept with the zoning and it was relatively successful it's just my zones were in such a state a week couldn't fix them! I do try to split jobs into 15 mins which really helps. And I set myself so much time to do a room which works pretty well, amazing how much you can manage in 10 mins. I think it's like menu planning (which I sometimes manage) makes all the difference if you can actually get started. Course we do have a cleaner so I'm a bit pathetic anyway - well, it's clean one day a week!

Indith, hope you manage on your own ok without dp, remind me again how long this is for? DS didn't start until his 3rd tooth (top one) so you've maybe got a while to go. Yes, the feeling I have to be there just in case annoying after 9 months. But then he fell asleep on me again tonight so sweet, there was a bottle there but I couldn't bring myself to use it. I have nothing against bottles, they just seem pointless when I'm there.

No biting today, just on knife edge waiting for it! He's not well again, vomited up a bit of each meal which is so unlike him. Still trying to be chirpy, he's waving and clapping hands, very pleased with himself!

Margo, how's dd? I really feel for them with ear infections, but the ab's work so quickly (I hope they are anyway).

I am another flybaby, have my calendar up with my various zones for each week.

For the newbies to it, it took me about 2 years to really get into better habits about keeping my sink clean andother habits, I still struggle with it, but the fact that I have kept up a lot of it even with DD2 having arrived etc means that it does work, I don't have to think about laundry & cooking the way I used to.

Calm used to do it as well!

Oh and AQ, I didnt get anywhere sorted for about a year properly using the zones, but it did happen evntually

I keep trying to get into FLying, I'll see how it goes when we move into our new house.

Another trip up to the hospital last night with dd1. My aunt is a paediatric nurse and I asked her advice as dd1 still was in pain despite max doseage every 2 hours. She said that she would meet us at A&E. the Triage nurse had loads of sympathy and I could see her welling up while she was talking to us. The emDoc refused to let her see a paediatrician and basically made us feel like neurotic women. My aunt thinks that she should be getting IV antibiotics, as he has diagnosed a respiratory infection as well. She has a huge ulcer on her tongue tie, she's just so run down. She hasn't had a wee for over 24 hours either.

She seem to have perked up a bit this morning, although she seem to deteriorate every evening.

If she is not managing the pain tonight then I am going to take her to another hospital.

margo. sounds horrendous. i hope she starts improving soon.

OMG, margo, how awful for you all I think you are absolutely correct in taking her somewhere else.

OMG Margo - it must be terrible. Hope she's feeling better, or if she isn't, that someone is listening to you and giving her what she needs.

Margo, hugs! Really hope dd1 better tonight and not in pain poor little mite.

Thanks for the support everyone - she's been much better this evening, even asking to play with her dominoes! (I think it's all sympathy pain - dd2s teething hardly seems to be troubling her!)

AQ re the biting - I fear that I will be bitten soon. I know this sounds strange but there seem to be one side which dd2 is more likely to bite - I do hold her differently on both sides. It seems the rugby ball hold side is the one most likely to be injured!

FGS - dd2 seems to behaving with 2 b/f a day. (first thing in the morning & last thing at night) If you feel the need to cut down, would it be better for you to cut out a midday one?

Hope you have had a good night Margo!

Wht do doctors always dismiss mothers opinion, when normally they are the one that knows a child best and knows when they are not themselves??

Am tearing my hair out over Hannahs lack of sleeping, she is now waking ever few hours all night and wanting to feed, have tried just giving her water but it doesnt seem to work and she just screams which if she keeps doing for too long makes her threw up so I end up feeding her...

Am thinking I am going to stop, she just wants bf'ing whenever she fancies it now and screams when I don't, during the day as well.

Argh, life got busy (ie holidays over) and I've lost track again. Have just managed to read a few posts, and very sorry to hear your dd has been so poorly, Margo - hope the feeling better part keeps going from strength to strength, and no more pain: ulcers are horrible even for adults.

Also just had time to spot fly talk - oh I need to fly too. Am sort of afraid that either I'll end up talking about flying all the time (hence spending less time tidying etc) online, or that I'll just stress myself out with it: are these unfounded fears?? Am definitely intrigued...though wouldn't notice whether a sink was gleaming or not, I would love less clutter...

dd1 back at pre-school today, in the Big Childrens class, and am feeling a mix of relief, , and anxious for her. Its all rather lovely, though. Primary looms...lots to visit over the next few weeks, and lots of agonizing to do no doubt

dd2 meantime has just been given a vast bunch of toys, unearthed from storage, that belonged to dd1. She's in heaven.

Castles hi, hope you had a good holiday/break/time away! Will email asap.

hi everyone

wb - perhaps she is having a growth spurt.
eli - vome join us on the fly babysteps thread

Hello ladies, can you tell me why nobody tells you that when you have a baby, time starts to move at warp-speed ??
Where have the last 8.5 months gone? I officially start back at work tomorrow, but thank goodness have accrued holidays to take first and so don't go back until 3 October!

My Dad said to me when I was a kid that every year that goes by gets quicker and quicker so I should never wish my life away. I now know exactly what he meant!

Margo, what's the news today? I do hope you don't get biting, although to be fair ds2 has hardly done it last few days. I think I'd been overfeeding him based on his needs whilst ill. He was quite happy with 3 today (3 OMG, I so remember them all merging together till I lost count in 24 hours). And I was quite happy with it too, I wore an underwire bra hee hee. Agree with Margo, think the midday drink is the one to go fgs if need be as then they're really keen for a feed at night-time. How's it going at present, is she still faffing?

Eli, with you on the flying front, I did get v.boring about it with dp when i tried last year although he was quite enthusiastic! But I just suspect sometimes that much of the stress in my day might be avoided with more planning & doing small things at the right times instead of trying to do big things at the wrong time. Does that make sense?

AWBS, total sense

FGS, thanks for the invite - will come and join in, or at least visit and watch with interest before diving in, as soon as I get more than five seconds to myself.

For some reason (start of term? dh back at work? plantary chaos?!) this week is mad: I have my neice coming to stay tomorrow, my mother at the weekend, and a slightly dutiful visit to my father and step-mother in between. I'd probably enjoy most of it usually, just this week....dd going back to pre-school is enuf. She's loving it, but still was up for an hour at 2am being anxious/excited about it.

Castles, hows your dd's pre-school start going?

dd2 bashed her new little sore teeth on the bottom of a stool she was trying to gnaw she cried me a river, drank all her milk, and crashed out. I only half feel like a bad, neglectful, etc mother - but the sound of her teeth hitting the wooden bar is still in my ears

Aah, sorry, think its time I was in bed - clearly in need of some kip to restore my bounce! And then I can fly...