April 2007 - Where sleep and time alone are just a dim and distant memory......

[EllieK]

maveta, can't you just have them separately, in 2 bottles?
I don't think you can add to frozen bm but could be wrong.
Can I just ask - what's the best way to defrost it? Will it defrost in warm or hot water? How long will it take?

katy - i think you can defrost it in hot water. not sure tho'. check out the kellymom site??

Maveta - I don't see why it there would be a problem as long as it is fully defrosted and all used up as one feed. Make sure you shake it together well.

Katy - my lansinoh milk storage bags say, it should be defrosted as gently as possible either very slowly within 24hrs in the fridge or at room temp. Avoid using boiling water or a microwave. If necessary, defrosting can be done also under running cold or luke warm water, in tap water or in a bottle heater. HTH

Morning all

Katy - it doesn't take very long at room temp.

thanks everyone

how are you doing wo and angeg?
how does bigonion get on with caiomhe?

Hi Katy. We're ok thanks. Have just left Izzy to settle herself in her cot, she settled after 20mins of crying...not screaming though which is good. I hate doing it but she was becoming a very mummy clingy baby

How are you?

Wish I could do that, any noises from T turn into screaming in 10 minutes!! Very impressed!
We're find thanks, he's asleep now so I might risk a shower (deja vu - did I say that earlier?? I didn't manage it )

hey ladies, thanks for all of your kind words last night.

HV just been - little monster has put on 1lb in a week - although i'm not really surprised!!! Have decided not to stress about things, feed as best i can during the day and if he needs a formula feed on a night then thats what we will do.

hope everyone else is ok...off to catch up now!!

GMM - I just posted on your BF thread - after the event, as usual!!

We all have colds, so that is fun. Sigh. But on the bright side, at 31 days, my 7lb 15 baby has become a 10lb 12 baby!!! So all that baby-on-boob as fashion accessory is worth it.

SOKL - Gabe gets really painful wind, as well. Not acid though, I don't think. DS1 had terrible colic and while I don't think the baby has that, I do think he's on the colicky borderline, iyswim. Like K, he is not consistent with it. I do give Infacol, but I'm not consistent with that . I know that doesn't help you in the slightest, but I thought I'd share.

Hope everyone is having a lovely day,
xx

Oh, and very of all of you who are back in real clothes. I am nowhere near!! Not dieting because bfing so frequently but not stuffing crap either, just...what? Retaining some pregnancy shape as a nostalgic reminder?

Hi girls!
GMM - you sound much brighter today - hurray! Life always looks better in the mornings doesn't it!

Having a good day today - very good night last night as O settled for much of the evening, and then slept 11.00 - 5.30 and then again and had to be woken up at 9.15 to get out to nursery! Have been to NCT new babies coffee morning group this morning where she lay and looked at everything, and N is at nursery until 1.00 today so have left O sleeping rather fitfully in her car-seat downstairs.

Ange - we have been doing that a bit too with O as she would just love to be held and rocked off to sleep, but that's soooo not practical.

SE Ladies, and anyone coming to Brighton - back to the other thread please and let's work out if more people could do 15th or 22nd June (Ellie can do either). 22nd marginally better for me, and better for WaspElly I think . . .

Hello Ladies
I've not been on for a few days and was just catching up - I've laughed, nodded in agreement and comiserated (sp)with all of you. Everytime i think how crap i am at this i come on mumsnet and realise i'm normal and this wailing, screaming, narky bundle of joy is also normal.
I love the idea of a commune
DP joins the rest of the men that can sleep through LOs screams or is oblivious to them.
Bramshott and CB i never realised getting S to take a bottle or a dummy would be such a mission. The girl wants to be permanantly attached to my tit. The best bottle for her to attempt a feed is mam, but wherever we go i make sure i have a shawl in case i have to get my boobs out.
I all those whose bubbas sleep for most of the night and who sleep in their own beds. S is 8 weeks tomorrow and wakes up every 2 hours and will only sleep in someones arms amd my bed (great contraception). How do i get her in a routine and out of my bed????????

Hi Yvie, sorry can't answer any of your questions, just wanted to say hello

Took W to dr, and saw the lovely one. He talks to me more like parent to parent iykwim.
Anyway, W has got clear lungs, chest etc, but heartbeat was little faster than normal, and he was drawing his chest in quite deeply when breathing in. But as he's ok with everything else (being alert, sleeping, feeding etc) the dr was a bit baffled. Could've give him antibiotics, but not sure how much use they would be as he can't find anything to treat. Dr did mention the possibilty of an x-ray, but we are going back to the dr tomorrow morning to see if there's any change.
It just sounds like W needs to have a good cough, and then he'll be cleared.

Don't want to sound flippant, but I'm not too worried. Obv I am concerned, but feel that I'm trusting my instincts more this time round, whereas I didn't with J (and wish I had done) and also, I trust this dr.

Going for some retail therapy this pm.

"see" you later
x

Yvie - one-handed typing, so apols in advance.

Think fourth trimester. 8 weeks is very little to be expecting any routine (except for those whose babies seen to find their own!). With DS1, i got into a bedtime routine at 12 weeks; this would have looked impossible\ even a\week before, but in the event took only 3\days because DS1 \was \ready. T?his time, had intended to try sooner, but now realize that won't be happening - my baby is just over four weeks, btw. 12 weeks is probably realistic for many babies.Before then, they don't even know they are separate from us.

But then this is all very well for me, as I'm certainly not thinking about the implications for resuming sex. Respect!

runny - glad you are not worried, and agree about importance of instict!

runny, that sounds good, know what you mean, thought I'd be neurotic about T (I tend to be in general) but you can tell when they're well can't you? Or at least I think you can.

Very often , with J, I would ask everyone elses opinion, get myself stressed out, instead of going with what I thought.

Arghh! - I have a cold sore!

And my boss have overpaid me. Looks like he's typed the amount wrong. But he's on hols til next week, so I'll tell him about it then. I'm too honest for my own good I blame my parents

Still feeling sad about the breastfeeding, have been reading a longish mn thread about feelings about support for bf - I started yesterday evening but had to try and express some milk then midnight feed, and clearly curled up and zonked out straight afterwards, then had to fit various other priorities in this morning.

But more positively, midwife came and was happy enough to discharge Danny, who now weighs 3.95 kg, up from 3.6 kg. It's probably that fattening formula, but it means the NHS should be happy even if I'm not entirely. The fact that I was dressed also created a good impression, even though I keep tripping over my skirt on the stairs due to weirdly loose waistband

Mike didn't go in until midday, but after a bit of discussion which gradually calmed down, he began to grasp that I need to find some pattern which works for organising myself and Danny whether or not he or anyone else are around.

And last night I booked two sets of train tickets for the three of us to Leeds in July. I'm really looking forward to visiting my mum with Danny in tow, I love staying in Ilkley and getting looked after...

Luci

Yvie, ds is a boob-only zone too, although SIL managed to get him to take a dummy today for the first time ever! Also he is sleeping in our bed and not showing many signs of moving. In fact I sleep better that way and so does he. Poor DH doesn't but there's always the spare bed for him . Am with Bugmum - go with the flow, do whatever makes life easy at this stage - plenty time for routine once they are older. I'm not planning any more children so TBH I am absolutely loving having a baby in bed, he'll grow up too fast as it is.

Another cold wet day here - yuk.

Anyone planning a holiday this year? We're going to a cottage in Fife for a week, and that's as adventurous as we're getting !!

Hiya Katy

Thanks Bugmum - 4 week countdown begins, but i won't get too stressed if it doesn't happens then!
Elkie - glad Danny has been discharged. July will be here in no time I can't believe its June on Friday - time is flying by.
Planning my evening viewing - the apprentice or Big Bro?

Hiya Liath - x-posted. How did your SIL get bubs to take a dummy? A week away sounds lovely - when are you going? Don't think a we'll be going away this year - unless we win a trip. I've been closing one eye everytime i open my credit card bill!

No hols here I dont think, although if I manage to reclaim some of my bank charges we might have enough to go somewhere! Still waiting to hear back from Abbey.

Yvie, I dont know what to watch tonight either! I have been watching the apprentice but do love big brother. Will probably end up flicking between the two!