April 2007 - Where sleep and time alone are just a dim and distant memory......

[EllieK]

dts slept well last night but not in sequence!!! so up every 2.5 hours. Love them

Keep going with the bfing girls - I am so impressed and jealous especially at the huge norks

8.5 weeks already wow doesn't time fly when you are having fun!!!!

Hey oooggs, glad you are doing ok and that the dts are letting you get at least some sleep!

I really do have a black cloud over my head today. Dh just phoned me and I really could not be bothered to talk to him. He asked if I was tired. You think? Arsehole.

Small request, please can someone give me a good sized kick up the arse as I am wallowing in self pity here. All kicks gratefully received, thankyou. Really need to pull myself together here.

mammyjo - no kicks being sent your way. just chilled vibes and big onion is on your way with a family sized chocolate cake. hope that helps

Oh ladies. I love you all! I wish we could all move in together to shre the burden, have a ood old bitch and drink copious amounts of alcohol!

Runny, great to see you, and am so glad it ain't just me wanting to run off! Hope W is ok after his tumble.

CD, your morning with dd1 sounds lovely. Becky and I had a nail painting session the other day - it was so lovely to spend some quality time with her. Hope your pm at work goes ok.

Hi eca, hope you can get some rest - you sound exhausted.

Bramshott, loved your post! Sounds very much like our household, although I have to say dh is fab and v helpful. B keeps saying K's crying is annoying her and she can't hear the TV! Sounds like you too have the Design a T Shirt set from ELC?? We had THREE for her birthday!
Hope O gets over her cold soon hun.

Mammyjo, I am really sorry you are not getting the support you need from dh. I don't know what to suggest other than talking about it.

Ooogs, great to see you petal.

Ok here today, as K is sleeping. I seem to get really down in the evening, partly due to being tired I am sure, but I think it is more than that. I feel myself tied up in knots, have no desire to eat and just feel v tearful. As I say, fine during the day though. Don't believe that it is anything close to PND, but I am surprised I feel like I do, it being second time around.
Did any of you ladies suffer with PND at all. Rather than post on here, would you be happy to email me at [email protected]
just so I can understand how you felt. I appreciate it if you don't want to.

Right, need to do a bit of work whilst K asleep - we seem to employ arseholes where I work and stuff is kicking off!

Lots of love xx

Chocolate cake sounds fab! Feel like a div for letting it get to me. I am normally quite a laid back creature and I know its just because I am tired today. Have just had a couple of squirts of my resuce remedy so hopefully that will chill me along with your vibes!

Thanks all AGAIN for the lovely encouraging comments, it really does help. Eca - I´m not sure if I could still have thrush even though N doesn´t. Guess it couldn´t hurt to treat with the Daktarin cream just in case? Opinons?

My dh also can just sit and watch tv with N sitting crying on his lap and it´s as if he´s totally oblivious to him until I scream through "pick him UP FGS!!´ I think men do generally come from the school of thought that a bit of crying won´t do them any harm whereas I just can´t bear the sound. N was being really moany yesterday morning and dh came through and said he´d take him so I could have a shower and chill out. Of course all I could hear from the shower was N still crying in his moses basket where I´d left him. How relaxing. not.

Ellie - meant to say amazing effort re. the christening! Good on you girl, you seem to have more get up and go than the lot of us put together! lol.

Mammyjo - consider yourself kicked up the arse if that is what you really want but really I think we´re all entitled to a bit of self pity, it´s bloody hard what we´re doing! I tell you I didn´t realise the half of how hard it is, but then I guess no one does. Dh has been really good about getting up during the night after I´ve fed N to burp him and change him. It´s nice to share the load and not feel so alone in the middle of the night.. but so far this week it seems that particular gesture might have fallen by the wayside and I was stomping about the room last night feeling really pissed off that he was snoozing away. It´s not fair really as I can and often do have a mid morning sleep with N on my chest so I can recoup the energy where dh can´t. But hey, we´re women and we´re mothers - WHO SAID WE HAD TO BE RATIONAL??!

SOKL, have emailed you xxx

Thanks MJ - have emailed back. xx

My mood is lifted!! Just changing F's nappy, she coughed and sprayed shit all over the sofa! Made me laugh so much, especially when ds called her a dirty little bugger! Did tell ds he shouldnt call her that but made me laugh anyway!

MJ, that brighened my day as well!!! Hope it wipes off ok!!

MJ when did ds turn 4?

Thankfully have a leather sofa!!

Leather is fab - we bought leather when B was born.

Was 4 on May 7th so only just!

B turned 4 on the 23rd May!

ooh SOKL, fab idea about living together, shall we all set up home in one big commune by the sea

Sorry to hear so many of us are struggling with BF but it does help to know I'm not alone. I think this is a really hard stretch - the post-birth euphoria has worn off, partners back at work and we're still having broken nights. Things got a lot better at 12 weeks last time but that seems a way off just now. We'll get there though and the support here really helps .

DH has taken to sleeping with earplugs and eyemask. I'm trying not to feel bitter about it as he does work horrible hours but when he gently snoozes through feeds it makes me want to poke him and wake him up .

SOKL I have been Ok mood wise this time but had PND with dd - I think triggered partly by tiredness but also overwhelming anxiety - I couldn't leave her for a second. It can hard to know if you have PND or not as some days I felt fine and others in a complete pit.

I think it'll be virtual chocolate, red wine and hugs all round until we hit 3-4 months or so !

maveta - i still had the thrush while T had no symptoms (no white spots, feeding fine etc) I would slap it on for a bit and see if it helps It's just a bit of a pain having to wash the stuff off every time you feed.

Bramshott and Mammyjo - to you today. dh's sound like they're being PITA! AHHHH!!! It must make it all the more hard for you to cope. Hang in there ladies xxx

I have to confess my dh has been great. And like Maveta's has been doing burps/nappies in the night if I need him. He works from home about 50% of the time which makes it all the more easy for me. TBH I was having a bit of a moment this moring thinking 'am I a crap mother, i don't know if I could cope if I was by myself for most of the day'. Mmm. I know I should just enjoy it that he's around, but I can't help feeling like I'm a bit useless. Hats off to you mummies who hold the fort all day while dh's are at work!

SOKL -LOL about the commune thing. Can you imagine all of our babies screaming in stereo!!

Bramshott - meant to say a while ago that I'm not even trying Ruby on the bottle yet this time. With the others I tried a bottle of EBM a day from an early age, convinced I would get them used to it no problem, and it was awful every time. They were never that great at taking it and it was just a whole load of hassle. Even when I switched to ff for that one bottle it still seemed one hassle too much. I worried with each of them what it would be like when I switched to the bottle at 6 months, thinking they would never take it. But once they switched over 100% they seemed fine. Of course not being able to take the odd bottle does tie you. We are spending a couple of weeks at my parents this summer and I'm beginning to realise that we won't be able to use their babysitting services if R won't take a bottle. But just can't face introducing one right now. Sigh.

Maveta i agree with you that men seem to think crying a bit won't hurt them, whereas we are genetically programmed to want to rush to them immediately. I find my stress levels rise within an instant of Ruby crying and I will do pretty much anything to stop her. Whereas DH is happy to let her scream in his lap. Hugs to those suffering from such DH problems.

SOKL - hope it doesn't turn out to be PND, or if it does you get the support you need quickly. I have no personal experience of PND so can't help much I'm afraid, but thinking about you.

Right, off to listen to DD2's reading, finish helping DD1 with her homework and then get them all ready for the pool - DH is taking them down when 'siesta time' is finished (not that we do siestas) so I will get half an hour of peace then (R permitting)

Commune by the sea sounds like a fab idea to me!!

right, all off to Dippy's house then

Am now fantasising about a big house with shady verandahs and a sunny garden. Sound of the waves in the distance. Fridge full of white wine and chocolate, Ben & Jerry's in the freezer. All of us sat out with happy chilled out babies and Big Onion plying us with G&Ts.

Does this commune come with a night-nanny service?

What DVDs do we get in?

Is there an M&S nearby to get posh ready meals?

m&s is at the end of the garden, with Daniel Craig and Martin Shaw there to service all requirements

Sounds good !

I would say Johnny Depp but the chain-smoking would irritate our precious babies eyes .

hold that thought, I have Monsoon vouchers to post