JUNE 07...Starting thread!

[nannyjo]

Well i think i was the frist to 'pop' from the due in june thread so i thought it was about time we started the post-natal thread.

DS2 is 2 weeks on monday I had him 4 weeks early due to induction for OC. Everything is going really well and i think things are finally starting to settle down (i hope i haven't just spoken too soon!!)

He is really suffering with colic though and were getting about 4 hours sleep a night on average and with a 2.5 year old there is no chance of catching up in the day, but i shouldn't complain as i'm lucky to have got two wonderful boys. Thats it now NO MORE!!!!!9smile0

I know a few other june mums have had their babies so it would be lovely to hear from you to see how you are all getting on (when you get the chance )

Hi BZ....DD has been sleeping and feeding well since day 1...going 5 hours at first, but is now at a respectable 3-3.5 between feeds, but she was c-section so didn't have the trauma of birth to recover from......my sis had a speedy labour with her DS2 and he slept lots afterwards. Maybe its the bub's way of regaining the energy spent during the birth. I would appreciate it while it lasts to catch up on your own much needed sleep!

congrats again....she looks gorgeous!

BZ - just checked your profile and very nearly said "awwwwww" out loud - what a sweet little thing! I like the snippet of wisdom you found. Sounds quite reasonable to me!

Finally got my own little girl to do a poo today (opposite problem to you D'boo!). My secret: fennel tea. Works like magic within a few hours and what relief for my poor girl! She was really struggling there for awhile!

evening chicks,
why am i finding it so hard to sit down and join in with you lot these days???
ah yes, new baby and the fact that i'm farking exhausted
my boobs feel ready to explode too - and my nipples feel like they are leaking razor blades rather than milk - oh the joys, can't believe i moaned about being pg!! MW was here today and says i probably just blocked out the painful nipple experience from the last 2 but i still don't ever remember it hurting THIS much - they are sore ALL THE TIME
Abbie and i fell asleep for 3 hours this afternoon which was bliss and very much needed.
I too have felt a bit emotional but have so far managed to keep from crying hysterically - there's always tomorrow!!
Daisy sorry for not being around to help you out with the poo question - i would say that yes constant pooing from a BF baby is normal, it does stink BUT if you are at all concerned then save one of the nappies that worry you and show it to your MW/HV.
I will try to come back more regularly cause i'm missing my MN chats so will promise myself to make more of an effort.
wishing you all a good nights sleep!!!

morning all, just popping in to say hi. Zak arrived on Saturday 9th June.

Badzelda, we also have a sleepy baby, for the first few nights he would have hapilly slept through for a good 6-7 hours, but I woke him after 4 hours to feed him as he is very tiny (6lb 2).

Now he does wake after 4ish hours but is happy to suck his hands rather than ask for food.

anyway, hope to pop back soon, hope everyone is well x

Morning ladies....no-one around again, but you are all probably catching up on much needed sleep. Had a horrible night last night, with DD only going two hours between feed and then she had terrible wind and was up from 3:15 until 6:45. Not crying, just whimpering with the occasional long whine which was heartbreaking to listen to.

Sh'e settled now though and slept for a couple of hours, had a quick feed and has been down since about 10:00.

Had a big emotional wobbly at DH at 6 this morning. I did tell him the other night that there was no point him staying awake when she was up as there wasn't any point in us both being kanckered...so he took me at my word, and slept through all her whimpering and whining last night. finally poked him awake demanding to know how he could sleep through it and couldn't he at least ask how she was doing and could he take her for a bit so I could get some rest. To which he retorted I'd said I'd wake him if I needed him....well I said I'm farking waking you now aren't I? I then refused to let him take her (in a martyred fashion) and sent him to the sofa by way of the kettle. He's pampered me all morning now and I feel really guilty!

Hello all

D/Boo - with you totally on the DH issue - we have been going through exactly the same thing here - he lifts his head off the pillow says "you ok?" and goes back to sleep! Last night, DH went to spare room, and was easier to be honest!

Seen my MW today and need to viit GP tomorrow - 3 years ago I suffered from anxiety attacks and think they have come back so need to go and get prescrition for some ADs to nip it in the bud - may just be baby blues, but don't want to take the chance. Also should get swab results from my wound which is still weepy - but my mobility is much better now - day 12.

On the plus side, DD is gorgeous and doing really well. Ended up in tears ealier when feeding her at how perfect and beautiful she is (!!) - am I normal?

Hope everyone is OK and enjoying their LOs

perfectly normal charlie...at least as normal as you can be with raging hormones. Good luck at the docs and hopr the panic attacks get sorted, they can't be very nice at all!

I'm on citalprine (or something like that) as i've had depression on and off for years and this pg kind of brought it to a head. I'll also be attending the mother and baby unit of the hospital mental health department. Went up there yesterday and met my consultant and the mh nurse who'll be looking after me. They have a really nice day hospital where you can go and just shill out if you need to, as well as offer more formal appointments.

Its a bit quiet on here at the moment as we all get used to our los, but i must admit i'm still lurking/posting ante-natally as there is too much birth action going on to miss!

Hi all,

Likel - yes things are pretty hectic here,although DH still off until the end of next wk so still have some extra help.

Daisyboo - We were also thinking our DS was doing loads of poos a day, DD only used to go every 3-4 days...and he lost a lot of weight initially, has put more on this wk, but still lots of bad nappies!

Is anyone else experiencing major night probs? DS is fine all day, will sleep through anything, and only feeds every 4 hours, but come night he is awake every hour or 2, and only settles if feeding or being held. Totally different from DD, who slept fine at night, only woke up for feeds. Am panicing a bit as can't be up all night with DD, and then up with DD all day. Anyone got any good tips for baby who won't sleep at night. Was thinking of putting a radio in his room so it is not so quiet at night...

All is calm here today - milk has come in properly now, and the HV has just been here for the 4 day check and pronounced me a qualified breastfeeder, so that's encouraging. Matilda actually woke up to feed last night at 4am (had slept previous 2 nights through) so I think the first couple of days sleepiness were just her recovering from birth - she seems v. keen on milk now. Kittykat - would it be less dispruptive of your sleep if DS was in your room just at the moment so you can just feed and crash out again? We live in a 2 bed flat - so Matilda won't be sharing with her sister for quite some time yet - but I'd REALLY struggle on getting back to sleep if I had to get out of bed, go to another room, feed and then try and get some shut-eye again.

Having said that you probably have a really good reason for putting baby in his own room so early so ignore me!

Kittykat,

I'm watching this thread with interest as my LO should be coming into the world on the 26th (planned section) and it helps to refresh my mind about those early days with DD and how difficult they were.

Please feel free to ignore me, but would it be possible to wake DS in the day so he feeds every 2-3 hours (frequency depends on his weight) as he might be feeding every 2 hours at night as he's hungry, or just not tired as he's had so much sleep in the day? I know with DD I was grateful when she slept well in the day, but one time (2 weeks old) we let her go 5 hours between feeds as we didn't want to wake her and we were up all night (never again!). I think it's a myth to never wake a sleeping baby, and although I didn't like doing it with DD, I plan to do it when LO arrives!

Hi guys -

KK - sounds like your LO might have switched their days for nights, so you should try to limit daytiime sleeps to 3hrs, get the feeds in more frequently during the day, keep them in places during the day that are relatively light & noisy, and keep nighttime feeds quiet and dark. Like Pula, I made the mistake of letting my first LO sleep too long during the day and it screwed us up for weeks!

S is sleeping well I'm shocked & pleased to report - well, when she can escape the pain of wind that is. Poor thing does so well - but gets such attacks of straining and obvious pain (legs pulling up, etc etc). Started giving an ounce of fennel tea an hour after feeds so hope that moves things a long a bit better. It's really our only problem so far (fingers crossed!)

even managed to get her into a little sundress today, though it's on top of tights, bodysuit, etc so she doesn't catch a chill. SO many little dresses she will prob never wear in British summer!!

Oh and BTW I've succumbed and now on anti-Ds as well. So bloody disappointed in myself, but it is apparently out of my control and up to the farked up hormones. At least I am now going to get out of this hole of guilt I'm in...and yes I also just melt into tears at the sight of my little girl sometimes. I just can't believe she is mine IYKWIM?

Oooh its been busy on here today!

KK...my LO has been the same over the last few nights, so major sleep deprivation going onn here too. she seems to sleep better in the pram downstairs than in her crib, and I wonder whether she feels more secure in the pram as its smaller and more enclosed.
Only had two hours sleep last night, but she's slept all day again. Might try waking her after 3 hours as suggested. Thankfully DH is around so he can take DH to school etc, but heaven knows how I'll get on after he's back aat work.

Lilkel......sorry to hear about the ADs but its for the best if it gets you back on a even keel. I'm not bad through the day, but it all seems that little bit more hopeless at 3:00am, especially at the moment with the weather being cold and miseerable. I'm so glad DD isn't a winter baby....

Pulapula...nice to "meet" you and hope your section goes well. I had a planned one, as did Lilkel, and my recovery hasn't been too bad....certainly better than after my DS when I had a lengthy traumatic labour and then a c-section!

Hi Daisyboo,

Yes, it has been interesting to read the posts about recovery from c-sections, so I know what to expect. I didn't have a section last time, but did have what I thought was a difficult labour/delivery and then issues with my pelvic floor for months afterwards, and I was glad the consultant said yes to a section when I asked.

I have been on the due in July thread as my EDD is 2 July, but have read the June thread from time to time.

Lilkel had a similar experience to you....and she has bounced back pretty quickly. I've had a few problems with one end of my wound but other than that fine. I don't remember it being this sore last time, but i had less in the way of pain relief this time as I had a reaction to one of the meds so they stopped it, but didn't give me an alternative. Pretty much pain free as of yesterday though so that's only 8 days after the op so not bad.

Don't think I'll start my marathon training just yet though

LOL at the kerouac style rants DG.......i love a bit of Kerouc so I'll watch with interest!!

this thread is a bit disjointed...more statement then conversation, but I'm sure we'll all get chattier again as we get used to life with a little person in the house again!

Glad Rhuaridh is settling in well.

Ohh....and I had four and an half hours straight sleep last night and feel fantastic today!!

Morning all!

Quick question. Does anyone else have a baby that will not sleep in the cot at night? DUring the day Matthew is crashed out asleep in the cot but at night he will not sleep there. Keeps waking up and crying, I feed him, he falls asleep, transfer to cot, he wakes up... rinse and repeat indefinitely. If I feed him and then let him stay snuggled up next to me then he will sleep for a few hours, but then I can't sleep properly due to panicking that I might squash him etc! I am so tired it is getting beyond a joke. We have tried putting a textured sheet on the cot so it isn't too cold, wrapping him in a blanket so he stays in contact with the same sheet, moving him as soon as he stops feeding, waiting until he seems fast asleep and then moving him.

Any ideas appreciated! (Or just sympathy....) [tired out emoticon]

morning RF....Emily is doing the same at the moment and just wont setle at night, but she will sleep all day in the pram. I seem to remember DS doing something similar at this age and that it passed after about a week. Have yu tried swaddling him in a blanket?

Em spent last night with DH on the sofa though and I got four and a half hours sleep.......bliss!

I read somewhere that this sort of cluster feeding at night is all to the good for upping your milk supply....so I think it's just something we have to put up with.

try to sleep when he does through the day if you can.

RF- yes, that brings back memories of DD. I think swaddling might help.

I ended up with the moses basket right next to bed. I would then just reach out and touch her, and shush her without having to get out of bed (but it was mid-winter and very cold then). We tried warming the cot with a hot water bottle before putting her in too, in case she was missing the body heat. But quite often I'd give up and just fall asleep with her on my chest or next to me, until the HV said it really wasn't a good idea and then I persevered with the transfer to cot, although this would have been after quite a few weeks. I am a big fan of the baby whisperer, and we used the shush/pat technique at this stage. I can give more details if you need to know more.

We've done a half-arsed swaddling technique! But probably worth doing it properly and seeing if that helps. I've got the moses basket right next to the bed but shushing and patting seems to just alert him to the fact that I am right there and then he just gets more frantic until I pick him up.

My DD (also an Emily!) was not this demanding, she used to feed and then zonk straight out again so this is a bit of a shock!

We will give the swaddling a crack tonight. Fingers crossed!

My MW was telling me about some studies that are currently being done on co-sleeping, and there's lots of info on here as well. Apparently if you are BF, you are never really in a very sound sleep and can wake and respond to your LO quickly. According to her, mothers who FF sleep more soundly. Upshot is that it is unlikely that you will roll over and squash your LO, but you can take measures to ensure their safety; like have them on top of the duvet with their own blankets, don't do it if you smoke, or have been drinking (or taking drugs).

Have a quick search for threads on co-sleeping, and I'm not sure but I think Holly and Sputnik co-slept with their LOs....

We've also found that she settles better for DH...he doesn't smell as yummy as me obviously!

We pretty much co-slept last night. I did co-sleep a bit with DD but it was when she was a little bit older.

I've just had a quick look through the archives and we're already doing most of the recommended things, need to secure the duvet a bit better though just to be safe.

I'm a bit paranoid about everything at the moment which is probably why I'm sressed out that I'm going to squash DS!

How is the recovery going for you Daisy? Feeling a bit more back to normal now? I'm very happy as I've managed to get into my favourite jog bottoms today! Woohoo!